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Old 07-07-2011, 07:06 PM   #31
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Originally Posted by Jim Goose
Several Police officers i know and other people in legal profession have always said... its usually best to make sure he (the intruder) is dead.
So if you shoot... shoot twice... shoot to kill, then fire the warning shot.
I've heard this as well, and funnily enough, from very similar sources.

My future BIL is a policeman, and he's discussed 'reasonable force' with me. If they have a cricket bat, you can too...but the term 'reasonable force' has it's downside as well, as it does all depend on a person's interpretation of reasonable force...

So for example, me being five foot stuff all, and about 55kg, being fronted with a 6ft 100kg intruder...my reasonable force...is going to be to hurt them so they don't get up...so I need a baseball bat, because them even unarmed is going to kick my unarmed butt into next week given the opportunity.

I'm intrigued by the legal system, I've had the good fortune never to really have had to deal with for a very long time until recently, which is where my curiosity comes from with regard to what behaviour constitutes what kind of jail sentence and how the law is applied in terms of crimes committed. I know the drill about the 'address known to police' to ensure no retribution comes directly, but it's really not that hard to look up an address anymore and go hunting should you feel the desire when you get out of jail, particularly if you feel you were hard done by. And twelve years seems to be the magic number for those crimes...

As far as psychopaths and sociopaths goes, the other half is currently working in a psychiatric facility. They are told not to speak to the 'clients' by the nursing staff...they have little to no social skills from what I'm led to believe and they don't appear to be getting rehabilitated. They do appear to be pretty free to roam though, with no supervision at all...then again, they're the one's who have been caught, not the ones who haven't...who knows how many of them are out there...

I took (and still do take) a great interest in psychology, particularly the human mind and how it ticks...inside the facility there are those who despite being there for crimes they have committed, will develop rapport with certain staff members, and will protect those staff members if they feel that person has been hard done by (particularly by another client). These guys are clinically psychotic for the most part, but their ability to develop rapports with certain people blows my mind. That being said, do psychopaths normally hurt those they actually care about...? The research would indicate otherwise - but it's a safe bet for me, if one of those guys says hello, you say hello back
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