Blowing tires

[aussie muscle]

Saturday i hit a pot-hole and blew two tires. the hole was a lane wide, spread over both directions. of course this meant i had to call for a tow (NRMA)

while i was there, two other vehicles suffered blowouts on the same stretch of road. When i got back to town, the tow unloaded me at the tire shop, which fortunately he'd stayed open longer to help me. A beautiful XR5 was also there, he'd blown his tire in the same spot, but he'd buckled his rim.

so my saturday was mostly spent standing around, not getting to my destination and spending $320 on a pair of tires (one of which was less than a month old). whoot.

[lockieoc]

Hope you took a photo of the pot hole so you can send it with the bill to your local council. Well, lets hope its a council road otherwise you have to deal with state or federal which is an absolute pain.

[jaydee]

Thats the problem with low profile tyres I guess. Still sucks, get onto the shire for some sort of compensation. Start out nice and see if they will come to the party, if not then start stomping your feet.

[302 XC]

Originally Posted by jaydee

Thats the problem with low profile tyres I guess. Still sucks, get onto the shire for some sort of compensation. Start out nice and see if they will come to the party, if not then start stomping your feet.

Some councils will be liable, but theres a clause in my local council regarding this
IF they know of the issue, they can void their liabilities, but if its a fresh pothole and they havent yet been notified of it , then you could be in luck
But knowing how some councils work , they void any cost or liabilities at any cost
Oh except when it comes to pay rises or chasin unpaid rates or fines, then they are fast on the up take
Extracting money outta a council , youve more luck winning the lotto without a ticket
Local council out here gets upto 2 dozen tyre claims a week due to roads,havent heard of any win falls yet

At least the rims wernt damaged, thats good

[creative]

Originally Posted by 302 XC

Some councils will be liable, but theres a clause in my local council regarding this
IF they know of the issue, they can void their liabilities, but if its a fresh pothole and they havent yet been notified of it , then you could be in luck
But knowing how some councils work , they void any cost or liabilities at any cost
Oh except when it comes to pay rises or chasin unpaid rates or fines, then they are fast on the up take
Extracting money outta a council , youve more luck winning the lotto without a ticket
Local council out here gets upto 2 dozen tyre claims a week due to roads,havent heard of any win falls yet

At least the rims wernt damaged, thats good

I thought it was the other way round. If they didn't know about it then you dont have a leg to stand on but if they did and they haven't fixed said hole, then they are liable....?

[mik]

are your rims still round?? if it hit hard enough to blow the tyres it would be worth checking imo.

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by mik

are your rims still round?? if it hit hard enough to blow the tyres it would be worth checking imo.

All wheels are balanced when a new tired is fitted, sometimes if the tire was popped in this tipe of incident, the rim would be spun before the tire is put on.

[Insider]

Comes down to poor driving if you can see a pot hole coming up and slow down in time unless it was on the other side of a crest or on a blind curve , go sit your driving test again.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by Insider

Comes down to poor driving if you can see a pot hole coming up and slow down in time unless it was on the other side of a crest or on a blind curve , go sit your driving test again.

Obviously you live in a city and drive only on Freeways in dry conditions, otherwise you wouldn't come out with such an inane statement.

[Insider]

Originally Posted by GasOLane

Obviously you live in a city and drive only on Freeways in dry conditions, otherwise you wouldn't come out with such an inane statement.

Well if you call driving a B Double between Sydney and Brisbane city and freeway driving then good for you, A good driver slows down if they see an obstruction on the road.

[2011G6E]

Originally Posted by GasOLane

Obviously you live in a city and drive only on Freeways in dry conditions, otherwise you wouldn't come out with such an inane statement.

Great comment about a rediculous statement!

Be nice if you could always "see an obstruction" way ahead on a pristine level straight piece of road and have the luxury of time to do something about it...not when you crest a damn hill covering just over 27 meters a second at highway speeds and the things appear, or you spot it while traffic comes the other way and they've crafted the roads with steep drop-offs at the edge so you can't go anywhere, or at night, or in the rain, or when they appear out from under a truck of car in front of you and you literally have zero reaction time, or when the pothole merges into the dark grey bitumen and is just about invisible or merely looks like a discoloured patch...until you hit it...I could go on.

I never make fun of anyone who's been unfortunate enough to hit a pothole on our crappy underfunded road system..."there but for the grace of god go I" sort of thing you know...

[AU Mont]

Originally Posted by Insider

Comes down to poor driving if you can see a pot hole coming up and slow down in time unless it was on the other side of a crest or on a blind curve , go sit your driving test again.

yeah really darn clever !!

lets swerve all over the road to dodge something that may or may not be a pothole big enough to do damage

[svo supporter]

Originally Posted by Insider

Comes down to poor driving if you can see a pot hole coming up and slow down in time unless it was on the other side of a crest or on a blind curve , go sit your driving test again.

Intelligent person you are.

Country driving is alot different to city driving pal....In the city, there is traffic and plenty of it.....So swerving to miss potholes causes accidents because there are cars close by....Either driving the same way or in the opposite direction.

Even slowing down causes accidents.

Being high up in a truck, there is the benefit of seeing well ahead...Being in a car, you can't see as far ahead.

How do I know. I drive all sorts of different vehicles....Cars, light trucks and vans and you get to know which vehicles you can see the best out of.

[2011G6E]

A lot of the people I've spoken to who have damaged a wheel have done so on the inside edge. If you look at modern large mag wheels, they seem to have the spokes and apparently all the "support" at the outer face, with a long area of wheel rim going towards the inside of the car with no spokes bracing it.

I guess it's because modern wheel and car design puts the hub right out with the wheel nuts almost flush with the face of the wheel, instead of having some offset with the bolting face about halfway into the wheel.

[aussie muscle]

Originally Posted by Insider

Comes down to poor driving if you can see a pot hole coming up and slow down in time unless it was on the other side of a crest or on a blind curve , go sit your driving test again.

hummph! the current state of the Monaro highway, it's not a case of looking for an occasional pothole, its a matter of trying to avoid the biggest ones. you can't go 50m without seeing a pothole and it's like that over the entire length of the road. There's been a lot of criticism about the current state of the highway.

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by Insider

Comes down to poor driving if you can see a pot hole coming up and slow down in time unless it was on the other side of a crest or on a blind curve , go sit your driving test again.

There is a million reason why someone may not be able to avoid a pothole.

Your point is showing massive amounts of ignorance.

[Kynan]

Driving is the most dangerous activity you will do on a daily basis. As my Pop used to always say "treat everyone else on the road as if they're an idiot". And 302 XC is right on the money, there is and always will be something that's beyond your control.

[mik]

Originally Posted by Nikked

All wheels are balanced when a new tired is fitted, sometimes if the tire was popped in this tipe of incident, the rim would be spun before the tire is put on.

yes you`d like to think the rims are checked properly for run out, i`d be giving them a run with a dial gauge .

[XRtowcar]

I know your pain.
Blew one tyre, wrecked one rim and slightly buckled another.
Tried claiming costs, but no good.
Have to prove council or shire negligent for not fixing repair in adequate time.
Good luck though.

[lockieoc]

Originally Posted by XRtowcar

I know your pain.
Blew one tyre, wrecked one rim and slightly buckled another.
Tried claiming costs, but no good.
Have to prove council or shire negligent for not fixing repair in adequate time.
Good luck though.

I think from memory its 2 days for them to fix it before it becomes their fault. Sounds like it would be a fresh pot hole as it has sharp edges, hence blowing out two tyres. Still, i would put them under the pump!

Aussie Muscle,
Has their been much rain around your area over the past few days?

[aussie muscle]

Originally Posted by lockieoc

Aussie Muscle,
Has their been much rain around your area over the past few days?

lotsa rain, but not enough to flood much (just missed out on enough bad weather. still, it's wrecked the roads.

Neither rims buckled, but i've got taller sidewalls compared to the Focus.

[xisled]

If it is in Victoria most councils have limits that you need to reach for a claim.

It is in the legislation of the council.

From Memeory city of Melbourne is around $1800.

Off topic that is 1 nice looking ute.

[f1tzy]

I hit a pot hole and bent the diff in my fg ute. Cost insurance 14k so far

[IceValk85]

Originally Posted by f1tzy

I hit a pot hole and bent the diff in my fg ute. Cost insurance 14k so far

im surprised insurance is actually paying for that sort of thing :S

[f1tzy]

Originally Posted by IceValk85

im surprised insurance is actually paying for that sort of thing :S

It is still an accident regardless of what it is and there was nothing illegal involved so they had no choice

[brydie76]

Know this happened to a lot of people in Broke (near Cessnock, Hunter Valley wine country) last week. The rain has just cut up the road to no end. A lot of the formerly "repaired" pot holes in my area are exposed again : (

[Shonky.]

The trick with making a claim against the council is to claim the damage occured between when they were notified about it and when it was fixed.

Within this window they are liable. If it is local (which I doubt) keep an eye on it, or if possible get someone else to tell you when it's fixed. Claim it occured just before this date/time.

Of course be mindul of any dates on receipts when doing so.

I learned this the hard way by having a claim rejected on the basis that they had not been notified yet. As I was out of pocket I made a point of learning as much as possible about it (by being a pest and following up once rejected by the law firm representing the council on the matter)

This was Brisbane City Council. Don't know if it differs elsewhere though.

[HUNTER8]

Apparently the councils have "an obligation but not a responsibilty" to maintain roads as the lady at the council told me after buckling a wheel and destroying a tyre.

[Shonky.]

Originally Posted by HUNTER8

Apparently the councils have "an obligation but not a responsibilty" to maintain roads as the lady at the council told me after buckling a wheel and destroying a tyre.

I thought an obligation was greater than a responsibility.

How very helpful of her. At least you're clear now yeah....****

[2011G6E]

Awful lot of this going on...a woman I work with (one year old FG XR6 turbo on 19's) blew two tyres and damaged two rims a year ago down near Gympie, and just a week or so back wrecked another tyre down near the Sunny Coast while on holidays.

That's why i'm paranoid about the 19's on our G6E...they're gone as soon as the tyres wear out and something with a sidewall is getting fitted...probably 17's or the nice factory 18's on the XR50 model (the ones that are similar to the style of the wheels on that XR5 in the picture).

However, given some of the damn potholes I've seen, I don't think any size tyre could take it at speed without damage...it's about time someone with some legal backing made a test case against a council or the transport department.