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14-12-2015, 12:04 PM | #1 | |||
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Mercedes C Class do have column shifters... That's the real reason for the sales boom!
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Going to the Audi dealer, looking around and inside the cars, they really are finished beautifully. The whole industrial design part of what they do has been superb in the last 5 years or so, and this shows in sales.
Affordability helps as well (as does easy finance).
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So are they expensive to service/repairs or not.
Thinking of an Audi as the next purchase one day but this has me thinking twice.
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14-12-2015, 05:48 PM | #7 | ||
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Ye all the cheap credit has created a mountain of retail spending never seen before.
Too bad when the time comes to pay the bill when things tighten up though. There definately will be some cheap used luxury cars around come late 2016! |
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14-12-2015, 06:01 PM | #8 | ||
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14-12-2015, 07:45 PM | #10 | ||
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In the 50s the FX Holden took 2 years average full time wage to buy. Nowadays a brand new C Class takes 10 months average full time wage to buy.
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yeah but is that taking into account how much of that wage is disposable income ? its a lot more expensive to live these days.
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14-12-2015, 07:55 PM | #12 | |||
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Lots of things are more expensive now, houses are the real killer and are just ridiculous. A 60k Merc is nothing in the bigger scheme of things (still I can't afford one lol), not unheard of some people spend more on stamp duty on the family home! |
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14-12-2015, 08:01 PM | #13 | ||
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It could also be the ratio of (as an example) a new C class Merc against the average wage.
Example: year 1990, average wage $27,000 and C class Merc (equivalent) was $45,000. So just under two years wage. Today, average wage is about $78,000 and new C class is around $70,000. So just under one years wage. Sounds a reasonable theory to me! |
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14-12-2015, 09:50 PM | #14 | ||
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Lots of sweeping generalisations being made in this thread - how do you know everyone driving around in a Euro is in debt to their eyeballs? Isn't it possible they're just doing quite well and in fact living well within their means? Just a thought...
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14-12-2015, 10:47 PM | #15 | ||
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Australians have the third highest GDP per capita so there is money around. Some of these purchases are cash, the majority are probably financed. I don't think it's a sudden wave of irresponsible borrowing - just people's buying patterns changing and the luxury market becoming better value and more attainable. There are probably people spending more money on Rangers and Hiluxes than many of the Euro buyers.
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15-12-2015, 01:06 AM | #16 | |||
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Going Euro is just a transition in a market that reflects the increase in community wealth. |
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15-12-2015, 01:45 AM | #17 | ||
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This.
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15-12-2015, 08:21 AM | #18 | |||
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I'm sure they will have plenty of cash stashed in someone else's name and they won't be driving around in base model fords or holdens. To me I will never understand how they can have (or should I say had) so much money and then lose it (from what we see in the press anyway).
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15-12-2015, 12:17 PM | #19 | |||
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15-12-2015, 10:14 AM | #20 | ||
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Heres a thought some havn't even considered.
Maybe people just want a well made car? My 2004 Audi has more features than my 2008 FPV, and is alot more refined in the cabin (plastics etc). And was a third of the cost! Also just for comparison, the Audi is cheaper for servicing, and maintainence, likewise insurance (when we moved to VIC, the F6X went up 30p/m, the Audi went down 30p/m) Other than the fact the F6X is rare (and a F6 will be added to the garage), the next purchases will be Audi's |
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15-12-2015, 07:03 AM | #23 | ||
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Not so much higher end Euros out here but lots of 200 Series Land Cruisers and late model import F250/Silverado/RAM
There is money around. I don't mind, these people with 200 series are coming in and buying stuff from me, it would be nice if they spend more |
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15-12-2015, 08:11 AM | #24 | ||
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I certainly noticing it in NZ with people coming in wanted mods for the dual cab utes.
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15-12-2015, 08:53 AM | #25 | ||
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Tinkler and Palmer are both facing the poor house because they are idiots and mismanaged their money accordingly. The average Australian isn't an idiot.
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15-12-2015, 03:13 PM | #28 | ||
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I'd rather be an average bloke in a Falcon then another ********* in a BMW.
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15-12-2015, 04:40 PM | #29 | |||
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I've had BMWs and Falcons since I was a teenager. Ive recently bought an E39 530i Motorsport for $3500 as a beater. Except the newer FG feels like the beater... BMW has 200k on the clock, superior build quality to an FG, better handler than FG XR6, better ride quality, better fuel consumption, an all round better car and niceer place to sit in, with ten times the mileage of the FG. The only thing I give the Falcon is the trusty 4.0. Should have bought one years ago. |
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15-12-2015, 05:51 PM | #30 | |||
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I was more referring to later models, the type that buys an X5 then takes half an hour to park it or upgrades their M series every fews years cause they like the look of the headlights etc. Only one I'd ever own would be an E46 M3, but my FG is still newer and faster for the same price. And doesn't cost and arm and a leg to fix.
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