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Old 13-05-2006, 03:43 PM   #1
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Question 93' Fairlane v8 p-plate legal in vic or not???

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can anyone finalise this for me...... vic roads said no but i disagree. lots of people said that it would be fine for me to drive the fairlane on my p's and i think it is fine cause it only produces 165kw at flywheel and weighs around 1700kgs it would be sweet. can some of u guys set me straight....
legal or not???????????

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Old 13-05-2006, 03:48 PM   #2
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Ive seen people on p's driving them, im sure it is.
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Old 13-05-2006, 03:49 PM   #3
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hi..
can anyone finalise this for me...... vic roads said no but i disagree. lots of people said that it would be fine for me to drive the fairlane on my p's and i think it is fine cause it only produces 165kw at flywheel and weighs around 1700kgs it would be sweet. can some of u guys set me straight....
legal or not???????????
I don't see why not... BA I6s with 182kw are fine :
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Old 13-05-2006, 04:56 PM   #4
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um you should be right...but if vicroads says no then ya screwed.
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Old 13-05-2006, 04:59 PM   #5
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Here ya go,

(165KW/1700KG)*1000 = 97.05KW/Tonne, Your allowed 125KW/Tonne
(5.0L/1700KG)*1000 = 2.94L/Tonne, Your allowed 3.5L/Tonne

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Old 13-05-2006, 05:03 PM   #6
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^^lol

Thats alright...you can mod it a bit aswell....
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Old 13-05-2006, 05:06 PM   #7
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im pretty sure every E-series V8 is P plate legal except for the big guns (EB & EL GT's / ED sprint / EL2XR8 / NL FBT)
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Old 13-05-2006, 06:11 PM   #8
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im pretty sure every E-series V8 is P plate legal except for the big guns (EB & EL GT's / ED sprint / EL2XR8 / NL FBT)
Depending on what weight VicRoads put on those cars they are all legal. 1600kg is prob a good weight for the SWB's and 1700 for the FBT.

200kw + 1600kg = 125kw/tonne
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Old 13-05-2006, 06:23 PM   #9
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yeah, as fourbarrel said, using the formula from the vicroads vebsite, it's fine. Was it just a customer service rep that told you no ? Because unless there are new rules in town i don't know about, you should be fine. Ring them up again quoting the forumla on their own site, see what they tell you. Unless that car has just been given a general black mark for some reason i don't know about ? As was said, ba & bf I6's are legal, and they're 182 and 190kw's resepctively, and a little LIGHTER than the fairlane. Ask them again.
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Old 13-05-2006, 06:37 PM   #10
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i heard the no V8 on p's rull is coming in next year

so i dont see why not

i can onlly see that 8 pusing about 130-40kw's at the wheel'
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Old 13-05-2006, 06:41 PM   #11
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i'd say more 110-20
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Old 13-05-2006, 06:44 PM   #12
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my NC V8 when stock ran 114.3rwkw with a shagged exhaust.....
no idea what it's got now.....
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Old 13-05-2006, 06:54 PM   #13
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Don't want to upset anyone here but a CT110 postie bike has the following,

(5.625KW/89KG)*1000 = 63.2KW/Tonne

That's only a ducks fart behind the fairlane...
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Old 13-05-2006, 06:56 PM   #14
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i heard 'bout the no v8 on p's rule in vic... well sounds like i will have to get myself a v8 now seeing as the rules apparently coming in next year
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Old 13-05-2006, 06:59 PM   #15
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Don't buy a fairlane with a six, (148KW/1700KG)*1000 = 87KW/Tonne

That could be seriously embarrasing in a stiff head wind... ;)
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Old 13-05-2006, 07:00 PM   #16
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Don't buy a fairlane with a six, (148KW/1700KG)*1000 = 87KW/Tonne

That could be seriously embarrasing in a stiff head wind... ;)
heh.... i almost did! woulda been orrite turboed but.....

but then i saw the light......V8's all the way!
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Old 13-05-2006, 07:17 PM   #17
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but then i saw the light......V8's all the way!
That's the spirit!
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Old 15-05-2006, 05:12 PM   #18
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Don't buy a fairlane with a six, (148KW/1700KG)*1000 = 87KW/Tonne

That could be seriously embarrasing in a stiff head wind... ;)
Dead right there. Wouldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding. I know I've got one.
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Old 13-05-2006, 07:21 PM   #19
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yes it is legal
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Old 13-05-2006, 08:01 PM   #20
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Are you sure it is 1700kg? I think it would be closer to 1600 - not that it makes enough difference to matter in this case.
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Are you sure it is 1700kg? I think it would be closer to 1600 - not that it makes enough difference to matter in this case.
Think your right, 1608KG from memory...
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Old 13-05-2006, 08:09 PM   #22
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just keep going to Vicroads and asking them. if theysay no, its not legal then point out their own mathimatics that say it is legal. once they agree or say it is legal, ask them to put it in writing. shouldnt have any more problems.
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Old 13-05-2006, 09:43 PM   #23
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When i was on my p's it was 125kw per tonne or 3.5L per tonne - is that still the case? I used to drive dad's Grange all the time on my p's - one cop even asked me about the car, i got scared and told him i was legal to drive it, he said he wasnt worried about that, he was just interested in the car - as far as i knew from the list, any Ford 302 V8 (including fuel injected ones) Falcon or Fairlane were ok, and Holden 5L V8 if it was a COmmodore wagon or Statesman - pretty silly really 165kw isnt that much,
Statesman 185kw V8 was ok too but the 215kw wasnt
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Old 14-05-2006, 02:02 PM   #24
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5 litres are legal in all Falcons bar probably the Sprint and EL GT. I drove a 5 litre in an EB Fairmont on my P's and never had a problem.
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5 litre EB-EDs are rated at 1588kgs ;)
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Old 15-05-2006, 04:39 PM   #26
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Ive never had any problems with either vicroads or the police... and ive had my licence for a year. The rego sticker lists the tare weight of the NC V8, as 1600kg... so that with the 165kW means its still well within the limits of a p-plater.

I dont think the police care too much about 'stockish' V8s, they are more worried about VL's and WRX's... ive never had a second look from a cop.
And vicroads? well, its a part of the government, so this kind of bueracratic bull***t is to be expected.

Good luck with getting it on the road
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