Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

View Poll Results: DID I DO THE RIGHT THING?
Yes 288 97.63%
No 7 2.37%
Voters: 295. You may not vote on this poll

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-04-2009, 11:00 PM   #1
au11futura
ROCKING THE EL FUTURA
 
au11futura's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: HOW DARE YOU
Posts: 2,221
Default Did I Do The Right Thing???????

Hey guys and girls.

well funny story, i was leaving a sertain fast food outlet today when the guy in front of me stalls his car then restarts it puts it in reverse and smacks me.

then instead of stopping he takes of so natrualy i took of after him and he then stopped outside a shopping centre we got and i asked for his details only to find out he was fifteen years old. So i parked his car in the shopping centre car park held him there and called the cops to come and get him.

Whilst waiting i still had his keys and he pulled the crying game but stuborn old me didn't fall for that and handed the keys to the cops.

know i have to chase his pearents for damage done to my car.

So did i do good or bad by keeping him there?

au11futura is offline  
Old 11-04-2009, 11:02 PM   #2
AU1XLS
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Donating Member3
 
AU1XLS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Hallam
Posts: 1,897
Default

A good thing
AU1XLS is offline  
Old 11-04-2009, 11:14 PM   #3
pauljh74
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
pauljh74's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 2,602
Default

The only thing the 15 year old was upset about was being caught. If he was actually sorry he wouldn't have taken off. He had the chance to face up to what he had done to that moment in the drive-thru and decided to run, which has made it worse, now the cops are involved. If it was only the bingle, it could have been sorted out between yourself and his parents. Don't feel guilty for his screw up. He'll get a slap on the wrist for it anyway, but hopefully won't do it again.

Most of us at 15 given the opportunity of taking the family car for a joyride while the parents were away would leave the car in the garage, knowing full well that taking the car would get us in trouble with the parents, and any incidents while driving would get us in trouble with the police. Copping it from the parents and losing their trust is enough to deter most of us.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Webber
Not bad for a #2 driver
Mark Webber after winning the 2010 British Grand Prix.
pauljh74 is offline  
Old 11-04-2009, 11:03 PM   #4
KPOJ
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,245
Default

He smashed your car, lock the bugger up. (any pics?)

BTW I bet he see's you as a grumpy old basted
KPOJ is offline  
Old 11-04-2009, 11:07 PM   #5
CHARGED TERRA
TARMAC EATER & HSV BEATER
 
CHARGED TERRA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Sydney North Shore
Posts: 1,395
Default

Definately did the right thing mate. If he couldnt even manage to drive the car forwards like he should have.

Imagine what could of happened to some poor unsuspecting person (like yourself) out on the main road doing 60+km/h when he lost control or miscalculated yet another simple driving task.

You could have very well saved a life today.

Cheers

Adam

By the way, I wish you luck with getting your car repaired. Hope it all goes smoothly for you.
CHARGED TERRA is offline  
Old 11-04-2009, 11:13 PM   #6
michael_ozzie
Consistently Dusty
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Sunbury
Posts: 316
Default

Its the right thing, no matter who the person is, young or old, male or female.
Just hope that the parents are agreeable, because if it comes down to a "he said" "she said", then there may be more problems than damage.
__________________
Michael
------------------------------------
'04 BA II XR6 Ute - Mandarin

HD Tow Bar, Rear Airbags, Reversing Camera & Trans Cooler
michael_ozzie is offline  
Old 11-04-2009, 11:31 PM   #7
au11futura
ROCKING THE EL FUTURA
 
au11futura's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: HOW DARE YOU
Posts: 2,221
Default

yeh he did dent the front bumper abit behind the licence plate not very vissable and a minor scratch come day time ill take a few snapshots, but i just bought the car and planned on keeping it for a long time, mind you its in immac cond for an ex council car.

Also yes i did drive at fifteen but on a farm and with dad by my side.

Im now 28 and have had no accidents from the time i got my licence that were my fault because im always thinking i dont want to damage my car therefor i always was cautious on the road.

Im strongly suspecting hes damaged the supports behind the bumper even though there is hardly a vissible sign i did hear a crunch.

It makes me wander how kids are being raised theese days.

I asked him if he watches the news and how many teens he sees causing worse accidents he said yes but he was only getting something to eat and that he saw nothing wrong with his actions.
au11futura is offline  
Old 12-04-2009, 12:06 AM   #8
pauljh74
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
pauljh74's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 2,602
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by au11futura
I asked him if he watches the news and how many teens he sees causing worse accidents he said yes but he was only getting something to eat and that he saw nothing wrong with his actions.
He could walk/jump on a bicycle. He needs to realise that taking the car is not an option. Hopefully the cops will make him realise this.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Webber
Not bad for a #2 driver
Mark Webber after winning the 2010 British Grand Prix.
pauljh74 is offline  
Old 12-04-2009, 12:30 AM   #9
au11futura
ROCKING THE EL FUTURA
 
au11futura's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: HOW DARE YOU
Posts: 2,221
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pauljh74
He could walk/jump on a bicycle. He needs to realise that taking the car is not an option. Hopefully the cops will make him realise this.
Yeh true i just feel now as i have to go andrunaround to get mine fixed..
au11futura is offline  
Old 12-04-2009, 12:33 AM   #10
XRSIKS
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
XRSIKS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Canberra
Posts: 1,594
Default

Champion to restrain yourself.... I would have kicked the snot out of him
__________________
Previous -
Mazda 2 Genki
BF XR6 - Seduce
BF MK II XR8 - ToXiC...
Toyota Camry Altise

After a patient 2 years...
Now Driving...

2010 FG XR6 - Sunburst!
XRSIKS is offline  
Old 12-04-2009, 12:36 AM   #11
CHARGED TERRA
TARMAC EATER & HSV BEATER
 
CHARGED TERRA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Sydney North Shore
Posts: 1,395
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by S&BXR6
Champion to restrain yourself.... I would have kicked the snot out of him
Then you would have been the one in Handcuffs in the back of the wagon :

He did the right thing and basically made a Citizens Arrest. :
CHARGED TERRA is offline  
Old 12-04-2009, 12:48 AM   #12
DJR MAN
DJR Fan
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 448
Default

You did the right thing.

A kid on his pushbike smashed into my car whilst waiting for traffic to clear, and smashed a light on the car. He would not give me his name - flatly refused. Fortunately a police car soon passed by, they got the info from him - he was known to them too.
But at the end of the day no one coughed up to fix the light - in my situation it just wasn't worth the greif.
DJR MAN is offline  
Old 12-04-2009, 01:39 AM   #13
Boss 302
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 57
Default

Yes you did the right thing, some one could have been seriously hurt if he had an accident.

Last edited by Boss 302; 12-04-2009 at 01:41 AM. Reason: Spelling.
Boss 302 is offline  
Old 12-04-2009, 02:08 AM   #14
svo supporter
Fixing Ford's **** ups
 
svo supporter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: In a house
Posts: 4,759
Default

You definately did the right thing. As for another members comments to do with a he said she said scenario. He's in the wrong regardless of who hit who. He didn't have a licence to begin with, so he shouldn't have been driving. Pure and simple.

As for paying for the damage. I do hope the parents cough up, or the courts impose restitution costs to you.

Goodluck with it all and hopefully you get your car repaired without digging into your pocket.
svo supporter is offline  
Old 12-04-2009, 02:29 AM   #15
JC
Miami Pilot
Donating Member2
 
JC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: ACT
Posts: 21,701
Tech Writer: Recognition for the technical writers of AFF - Issue reason: Writing tech articles 
Default

Another "you did the right thing" here. What amazes me is that he didn't pull a knife or gun on you.

Just out of interest, how do you manage to restrain him until the cops came? I'm only wondering from an assault charge point of view, and/or kidnap - the way the law is these days, the crook seems to get more rights than the victim.

Good on you for having the guts to chase him. I would have probably taken a picture on my phone and then rung the cops with the details.

***edit***
Well, I notice there's a "No" vote, but no corresponding post. Someone too gutless to tell us why this was not the right thing to do?
__________________
-----------------------------------------------------------------
The Hammer: FG GTE | 376rwkw | 1/4 mile 11.793 @ 119.75mph 1.733 60' (4408lb)
1 of 60 FG MK1 335 GTEs (1 of 118 FG Mk 1 & 2 335 GTEs).
Mods: Tune, HSD/ShockWorks, black GT335 19” staggered replicas with 245 & 275/35/19 Michelin Pilot sport 5s

Daily: BF2 Fairmont Ghia I6 ZF, machine face GT335 19” staggered Replicas with 245s and 275s, Bilsteins & Kings

FPV 335 build stats: <click here>

Ford Performance Club ACT
JC is offline  
Old 12-04-2009, 02:52 AM   #16
svo supporter
Fixing Ford's **** ups
 
svo supporter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: In a house
Posts: 4,759
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JC
***edit***
Well, I notice there's a "No" vote, but no corresponding post. Someone too gutless to tell us why this was not the right thing to do?

Is it a relevative of the person in question which this thread is about. There's always someone that doesn't approve of these sorts of things.

The question about the restraining. Yeah, interesting point but it might have been an "oldhat" copper that attended. That might explain a bit. _2:
svo supporter is offline  
Old 12-04-2009, 03:37 AM   #17
motorcycles4eva
love the xa's
 
motorcycles4eva's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: sydney
Posts: 1,039
Default

i voted yes.. if you didn't then it would encourage car thef (whoever asks how.. . did his parents lend him the car?)
/ and possibly a fatal accident.. if you don't teach these kids then they think they can do anything and thats the problems these days..!@!@@ i remember getting my **** kicked from my dad when i stole a he'man figurine many moons ago (yea i'm old.. so what!!! lol).. i understand it now but you know the rest..
what if he ran over someone and took off?? we'd blame who exactly???
good onya mate!!!
when we do wrong i'm sure we know about it!!! lol..
motorcycles4eva is offline  
Old 12-04-2009, 04:00 AM   #18
Grechie
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Grechie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,728
Default

You know you did the right thing, there shouldnt be a "no" vote
__________________
2015 FGX XR8 - 557rwkw on E85
KPM Street Fighter
PCMTec
Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 - 255/35/19 - 275/35/19
Shockworks Coilovers
PITLANE AUTOMOTIVE & PERFORMANCE
Grechie is offline  
Old 12-04-2009, 06:29 AM   #19
Stefan
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Stefan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,193
Default

I just checked the results 47 agree and 1 disagrees, looks like the kid is even a forum member.
Stefan is offline  
Old 12-04-2009, 11:25 AM   #20
Auslandau
335 - STILL THE BOSS ...
 
Auslandau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melb East
Posts: 11,421
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stefan
I just checked the results 47 agree and 1 disagrees, looks like the kid is even a forum member.
Well you only had 2 options in my way of looking .... calling the cops or breaking some bones! Possibly the 1 or 2 thats said NO wanted to see some damage to the kid so calling the cops was out .......

So with only these two options ..... you did the right thing.



| [/url] |
__________________
'73 Landau - 10.82 @ 131mph
'11 FG GT335 - 12.43 @ 116mph
'95 XG ute - 3 minutes, 21.14 @ 64mph


101,436 MEMBERS ......... 101,436 OPINIONS ..... What could possibly go wrong!

Clevo Mafia
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Auslandau is offline  
Old 12-04-2009, 11:47 AM   #21
dave289
Banned
 
dave289's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: new south wales
Posts: 1,153
Default

I would have called his parents first and try and resolve it that way. If nothing came of this then I would have called the cops.
dave289 is offline  
Old 12-04-2009, 11:51 AM   #22
XRSIKS
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
XRSIKS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Canberra
Posts: 1,594
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dave289
I would have called his parents first and try and resolve it that way. If nothing came of this then I would have called the cops.

Unfortunate that in the eyes of most parents, their kids can do no wrong...

Cops For The Win!
__________________
Previous -
Mazda 2 Genki
BF XR6 - Seduce
BF MK II XR8 - ToXiC...
Toyota Camry Altise

After a patient 2 years...
Now Driving...

2010 FG XR6 - Sunburst!
XRSIKS is offline  
Old 12-04-2009, 03:01 PM   #23
au11futura
ROCKING THE EL FUTURA
 
au11futura's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: HOW DARE YOU
Posts: 2,221
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dave289
I would have called his parents first and try and resolve it that way. If nothing came of this then I would have called the cops.
Na mate pearents would of prob offered cash to keep it hush im not about that at all, thats why we have driving laws and age limmits.

I think a ride in the back of a cop car hopefully would of taught him not to do it again.
au11futura is offline  
Old 12-04-2009, 11:24 PM   #24
747jet
2 4 turning 2 4 burning
 
747jet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: in a house
Posts: 844
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dave289
I would have called his parents first and try and resolve it that way. If nothing came of this then I would have called the cops.
thats whats i would of done now the kid has to live with that for the rest of his life we where all young at one stage and we have all up at one stage
747jet is offline  
Old 12-04-2009, 06:40 AM   #25
Yaw
Ford Fanatic
 
Yaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 1,480
Default

I voted yes you did the right thing, but a couple of points here, (I will also point out given the same situation and oportunity I would have done the exact same thing as you) UNLESS you made an offical citizens arrest you could have gotten yourself in trouble for deprabation of liberty by forcing him to stay.
A lot of people have said you may need to "fix it up" with his parents.
This is a misconception, morally they should fix you up, but legally they do not have to. You cannot hold a parent responsible for their kids action. We have a "happy 18th birthday file" for situations like this at work. It is very difficult to recover from a minor. So if they are old enough to knowingly have done the wrong thing (eg this type of situation as opposed to a 3 year old that has maybe knocked the hand brake off or something) we will wait until they are 18 to start the recovery procedure. legally there is 7 years to make a recovery.
Best advice I can give you is to make an insurance claim, tell your insurer exactly what happened, providing you can give them the name, address and rego of the third party at fault you should have no excess to pay or any affect to your no claim bonus, however, if you did not get his name or address and relied on the police getting it and putting it in thier report, don't count on the excess being waived, because even when the insurer company gets the report his details will be blacked out because he is a minor.
__________________
Everyone is entitled to my Opinion
2007 Territory TX SY RWD Ego
Yaw is offline  
Old 12-04-2009, 07:25 AM   #26
Springfield_Johny
Regular Member
 
Springfield_Johny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Brisbane, QLD
Posts: 458
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by au11futura


know i have to chase his pearents for damage done to my car.

So did i do good or bad by keeping him there?
Definately did the right thing. Is your car insured? Talk to your insurance company about making a claim for the repairs. You may find it to be a faultless excess and most insurance companies guarantee the repairs, rather than go as a third party. This is what you pay your premiums for.

And I'll bet his parents are really glad he got caught by someone responsible after a minor mishap rather than someone who would have kicked his backside or been involved in a high speed chase with the cops killing himself and/or someone else.
Springfield_Johny is offline  
Old 12-04-2009, 07:48 AM   #27
OLDFORDNUT
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
OLDFORDNUT's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 3,150
Default

Yes of course you did the right thing,at the end of the day We only learn from your experiences both good and bad,hopefully the young kid who might have been heading down the wrong track in life got such a scare he never does anything illegal again,
you never know what effect it has had but i bet it makes him at least stop and think before doing anything silly again.
__________________
Hervey Bay QLD
Great trades recently- GILMORE
BOSSYONBIKE
OLDFORDNUT is offline  
Old 12-04-2009, 08:18 AM   #28
Coyote mk3
Clutch Cable Killer
 
Coyote mk3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Bald Hills, North Brisbane
Posts: 2,264
Default

'Course you did the right thing. I am 16 and recently got my L's.
I have known how to drive a manual since I was around 9 years old. But one thing I have, and i know a lot of teens don't, is respect, for my parents and for cars. - and I wasn't stupid enough to take one of the cars out for a drive on the road. (not all of us teens are idiots)

If you had not held the kid there, he would have done a runner with the car back home and when you called in the plates,the parents would have said that they were out, so there was no way the car was being driven.
__________________
Matthew
1997 Manual EL XR6 in Heritage Green
Extractors and 2.5" exhaust- - 16" Tickford Wheels - Full EL XR bodykit - COYO73 Plates
HID projectors, lowered on King SL and Koni Shocks.


Daily - 2002 AUIII SR
Stock as she comes.




Coyote's EL XR6

^^Click Me^^

15.132@ 91.51 MPH


Photos by Me https://www.facebook.com/PhotosByMatthewWylie
Coyote mk3 is offline  
Old 12-04-2009, 08:41 AM   #29
JC
Miami Pilot
Donating Member2
 
JC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: ACT
Posts: 21,701
Tech Writer: Recognition for the technical writers of AFF - Issue reason: Writing tech articles 
Default

2 No votes! Maybe his parents are forum members.
__________________
-----------------------------------------------------------------
The Hammer: FG GTE | 376rwkw | 1/4 mile 11.793 @ 119.75mph 1.733 60' (4408lb)
1 of 60 FG MK1 335 GTEs (1 of 118 FG Mk 1 & 2 335 GTEs).
Mods: Tune, HSD/ShockWorks, black GT335 19” staggered replicas with 245 & 275/35/19 Michelin Pilot sport 5s

Daily: BF2 Fairmont Ghia I6 ZF, machine face GT335 19” staggered Replicas with 245s and 275s, Bilsteins & Kings

FPV 335 build stats: <click here>

Ford Performance Club ACT
JC is offline  
Old 12-04-2009, 09:54 AM   #30
56L
a.k.a PAULY
 
56L's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: southern highlands
Posts: 1,112
Default

you done the right thing
picture it this way ,just say if you had let him go and then later on heard that he was in an accident you would then feel slightly guilty for not holding him,kids that are game enough to do those things at a very young age need to be pulled into line as soon as possible otherwise they will turn into one bad EGG
__________________
2002 silhouette pursuit 250 manual,brembos, 3.73,s
2002 blue print pursuit 250 in restoration
1995 WMW250(CR250) dirtbike fully road registered
1947 ford thames tipper V8 21 stud flat head
1939 ford beer barrel truck V8 24 stud flat head
HZJ diesel ute
HJ47 diesel ute
56L is offline  
Closed Thread


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 09:03 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL