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26-10-2016, 10:51 AM | #2 | |||
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26-10-2016, 10:52 AM | #3 | ||
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Well it looks alot better than the current Commodore.
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Is the Camaro going to be built in RHD?
If not HSV are in trouble...what can they do with this? I thought their AWD model would come with something better than a mildly tweaked SV6 engine.
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26-10-2016, 03:20 PM | #6 | |||
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HSV may go down the same path as FPV
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30-10-2016, 08:32 AM | #8 | ||
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good to see holden have learnt from there history all the commodore/ opel body copies have always equalled
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26-10-2016, 10:55 AM | #9 | ||
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Lol @ 370nm "sport model"
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Had have a Diesel option 10 years ago, both parties might still be making cars here
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26-10-2016, 11:03 AM | #12 | ||
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Yep good luck with that
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Fortune cookie says epic fail.
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26-10-2016, 11:29 AM | #14 | ||
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If the focus was only performance then I'd have to agree the Commodore is a dead man walking.
If Holden is aiming for a new customer base then it's too early to say if the average punters who buy sedans and wagons over SUV's will embrace it. Pricing along with tech, fit and finish and where it stands in the eyes of the consumer will determine its future and you can be assured Holden will throw a lot of dollars to try and get people to see this is the birth of a new era replacing an outgoing dinosaur. Personally I can't ever see myself buying one. |
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26-10-2016, 11:46 AM | #15 | |||
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A Wheels article.
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26-10-2016, 11:53 AM | #16 | ||
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Whilst the death of the Falcon is painful it is preferable to living on as a shadow of your former self like the Commodore.
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At least it's not a Daewoo, like half of the current lineup.
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At least Holden are well ahead with their plans.
a couple of things, Just like Mondeo there is no Sedan Holden not going with the Turbo Model probably rules out the Mondeo sport "turbo" Ford must be struggling having to be the first to make decisions, now that Holden have played their cards it will be easier for them.
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Maybe not. Fusions 2.7 TTV6 is already intended to replace the atmosphere big six, which the Commodore will still have. The difficulty there will be how easily the engineering behind the V6 Fusion can be shared to a V6 Mondeo. They might have to settle on trying to get a 2.3 EcoBoost model.
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https://www.motormag.com.au/news/161...86e44d55aad0d4 This doesn't mean much as there are often cars from overseas test here for whatever reason, and there is no inclination form Ford. PS there is no 2.3 Ecoboost model if considered it will be the 2.7
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seems a bit meh to me.
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26-10-2016, 12:03 PM | #22 | ||
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The most powerful base model commordore ever. Who is that supposed to appeal to. What is there for the bloke who wants his SS or GT etc. If I was a new car buyer next year, I would most likely look at a Subaru. I think it will be a very long time untill Holden come anywhere near the Japanese car makers for reliability and build quality. Just a note. I am nearing 50, my mint AUII XR8 has done 98,000kms. If I do 5000kms a year for the next 25 years, my car will have 223,000kms on the odometer. This is my plan to drive a local Ford for the rest of my days. I just can't face not having a large V8 sedan, there is too much I love about my current car. Maybe I will add a newer GT or something down the track, but I don't ever see a reason to buy 9 speed awd v6's!
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26-10-2016, 12:19 PM | #23 | |||
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They don't make money out of people who buy second hand cars or only live in the past. Love it or hate it, this car is obviously not aimed at the performance market.
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26-10-2016, 03:18 PM | #24 | |||
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26-10-2016, 04:41 PM | #25 | |||
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They have in no uncertain terms said to the performance crowd Adios. And fair enough as its future should be about growth and both Ford and Holden had stagnated and were convincingly over taken or at least matched by a broad range of competition. It’s already been speculated that the Commodore name is only being used as a transition from old to new and will quickly be dropped as Holden had done with the Kingswood before it. So far post Falcon Ford hasn’t proven a thing either other than they continue to have good sales with a Ute and Holden has yet to be proven wrong. I don’t like the car and it holds no interest for me but that doesn’t mean they can’t spin it to a new audience. You could be right on the money and this will fail and only time will tell and even if Ford has a better product line up, since when have consumers cared about better? You only have to look at some of the vehicles that occupy the popular sales figures to know that’s the last thing on most of their minds. I’m still reserving my judgement to the success or demise of both brands in our local market. |
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[QUOTE=LoudPipes;5797533]You're not Holden's future or market target.
They don't make money out of people who buy second hand cars or only live in the past. Love it or hate it, this car is obviously not aimed at the performance market.[/QUOTE Everything that is older was built with pride, made out of quality parts and profit above everything was never the no1 goal. I prefer older houses,cars, guitars, drums, amplifiers, furniture & things made of timber & steel etc, they all last and have integrity.I would never waste money on new cars that last 5 mins, are full of faults and made of plastic,and way over priced. I will leave those to the younger generation that have to have it now and new. You got one thing right, I am not and never will consider a brand new car or a holden. A good cond low km car with a good history and no bugs is much more appealing, besides, most of us spend 10 grand on mods in the first 2 years we get our cars new or 2nd hand. But hey, if you want to drop 50-70k at the local showroom, good on you. I own my home, my car and am looking forward to a very cushy retirement, much more important atm. |
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All I can say is for Holdens fans sake I hope they let the SS name die off......
Who am I kidding, its GM, they would slap SS on a Cruze to make sales if they had too.
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We wait with baited breath for Joshua Dowling's salivating report on this underwhelming vehicle. NOT
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Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaaaaa!!!
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