'We'll destroy hoons' cars

[mutanti]

Newspaper Article...

Just going threw the newspapers and found something a few of you might be interested in....
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CAR hoons will be penalised and humiliated under a NSW government initiative to wreck the vehicles of offenders and publish video footage of the destruction.
NSW Premier Morris Iemma says the plan proposes to destroy hoons' cars in demonstration tests under controlled conditions.

"Car hoons engage in potentially lethal, property destroying, anti-social behaviour," Mr Iemma said in a statement today.

"We're turning the tables. We'll destroy their property - but do it for the right reasons."

Police Minister David Campbell said film of the cars being destroyed would be publicly released.

"Video footage of these once-prized possessions being turned into splintered, twisted scrap will be the clearest message yet to hoons that we're serious about stamping out their behaviour and saving lives in the process."

The comments come after a weekend when police confiscated four cars whose drivers were allegedly racing on suburban Sydney streets.

In separate incidents on Saturday night, two 23-year-old men, one a provisional licence holder, a 19-year-old man and 29-year-old man had their cars confiscated by police and were ordered to face court for street racing.

Mr Iemma said the plan to destroy hoons' cars would provide valuable controlled crash statistics, and footage of the destruction would be used as a deterrent to wannabe hoons, while also educating young drivers.

"The modified, loud and often illegal vehicles confiscated from car hoons will be smashed to pieces in our crash labs, the results filmed and analysed, and the wrecks shown to other young drivers as a warning," Mr Iemma said.

"The RTA will also use the unique tests to investigate the potential effects of certain modifications on overall crashworthiness.

"And we'll show the wrecks at education days for young drivers, or at other RTA presentations."

Offenders would have to be convicted of street racing before the vehicles could be destroyed.

[Eaglexr]

Good!...I welcome this move.

[|||]

id love to see the number of innocents killed by drink driving vs the number of innocents killed by "hoons".

id bet my life drink driving kills more yet we let them keep their cars and licence.

what a crock

[scoupedy]

Originally Posted by |||

id love to see the number of innocents killed by drink driving vs the number of innocents killed by "hoons".

id bet my life drink driving kills more yet we let them keep their cars and licence.

what a crock

Agreed they should provide free or at cost tracks where people can drag each other if they are serous about curbing on street hooning
We (brother and a mate) use to have some old cars we used as paddock bashers..we had a track that we carved out of the bush and did time trials over it, it showed us that we are actually not as good as drivers as we thought

[AndyZH]

Originally Posted by scoupedy

they should provide free or at cost tracks where people can drag each other if they are serous about curbing on street hooning

Dont confuse street hooning with motorsport.. to the general public the line between the two is already so blurred they think it is the same thing.

[eb_5litre]

I agree, mid-high level drink drivers should get their cars destroyed too as I think they're a far greater menace.
Keen to see the details on what constitutes a 'car destroyable' offence though....... obviously 'hoon' means something different to everyone.

[Rock ape]

all this will do is start more car chases. If you new your car will be destroyed will you stop or run?

[danieleast]

Originally Posted by BAGTp001

all this will do is start more car chases. If you new your car will be destroyed will you stop or run?

thats true. i wouldnt stop if i knew my car was gonna get crushed. hoons dont hurt anyone. im pretty sensible i dont speed etc. i do enjoy the odd drift and burnout like everyone but i concider myself 2 b quite sensible. and i have never been seen doing this. so who am i hurtin doin the odd one? it wont stop anyone after all if someone enjoys burnouts etc. they will do them wether they r allowed or not. its only costing them tyre. i think its wrong to destroy someones car for something so innocent...most burnouts and stuff. from my experiences with mates. nd jus in general its all done in an industrial area or a non built up area so they DONT get caught. noone is stupid enough too do it down a main street or even near houses.
the best thing for these 'hoons' if they are under 20 nd still under parents influence march them 2 thier parents i know my olds would go skitz if cops brought me home for doing burn outs etc.

daniel

[SB076]

What worries me is what the definition of hooning will be in the future

"Under new Hoon laws police chase 4 youths racing down Princess Hwy approaching speeds of 85k's per hour in a 80 zone"

Dont get me wrong if someone does something really reckless they deserve to lose their cars - It will be interesting how all this works out

[Rock ape]

Originally Posted by SB076

What worries me is what the definition of hooning will be in the future

"Under new Hoon laws police chase 4 youths racing down Princess Hwy approaching speeds of 85k's per hour in a 80 zone"

Dont get me wrong if someone does something really reckless they deserve to lose their cars - It will be interesting how all this works out

Thats right do 130 in a 110 zone to pass that truck safely and dam no more car.

[Keepleft]

Originally Posted by SB076

What worries me is what the definition of hooning will be in the future

"Under new Hoon laws police chase 4 youths racing down Princess Hwy approaching speeds of 85k's per hour in a 80 zone"

Dont get me wrong if someone does something really reckless they deserve to lose their cars - It will be interesting how all this works out

Your on the money, the definition of hoon is not descriptively set at law.

We will start on repeat drink drivers, then where do we stop?

[ms700]

Like others have said, street racing is a problem, but i think that they need to shift their focus to other more dangerous drivers on our roads - those drunk or drugged.

I personally dont know anyone who has been killed by street racing, i know of 2 people killed by drunk drivers.

[Eaturbo]

This is the biggest load of Cr@p i have ever heard of, My old man was street racing back in the 60's like most of your old mans out there and there still here to tell the tale. I dont think Finance companies will stand for there Encumbered cars being destroyed than them not being able to reposes a car when the owner refuses to pay the payments. What ever happen to the saying Two wrongs dont make a right. Maybe impound the cars for 3 months first offence than 6 months second offence and keep doubling it every offence there after.

[XCSEDAN]

not a fan of this idea... i cant see some serious car chases up ahead....

agreed on the drunk drivers getting it too easy! why are the laws so tight on hoons, yet free flowing on drunk and drugged drivers?

another issue, the crash testing... they are now going to make it harder to modify our cars :evil3:

[ebxr8240]

Drink drivers should be IN the car when its crushed...

[XR06T]

why stop at hoons?

crush everyone who breaks the laws car i rekon.. rolled through a stop sign in the middle of the night? bye bye car.

/sarcasm off

[Bucknaked]

Cool. A 2nd thread on the same subject

[blueoval]

Its a form of control on something they dont personally like.

[Quasi]

To the 'Jack ***' generation seeing their car crushed on TV is simply a 'Kewl' thing to have happen. It's a bit like rappers being busted and gaining 'street cred'.

The problem with all these so-called solutions is that they are legislated by middle to old aged politicians, and enforced by a police force that these offenders see as an opponent, rather than an authority.

This is like the ad campaign showing people doing stupid things in cars where the girls at the side of the road, and the mates in the car drifting through the intersection, supposedly thought the driver was inadequate in some other area.

What a load of bollocks. Those coming up with this stuff are not even on the same wavelength of those they are targeting.

It matters not what you and I think of these ****s (the hoons), as the 'Fast & Furious' lifestyle grows like a fungus....despite the millions spent to combat it......as a defiance, rather than anything else.

The way to truly get the message across perhaps is not an advertising campaign showing young people getting killed, maimed, or having their property taken away and destroyed. Perhaps the images that should be shown are innocent parents, brothers & sisters, suffering as a result of this stupidity.

Mind you, at the same time, there are plenty of the supposed mature crowd doing stupid things. Just because it isn't a 'street race' doesn't make it any less of a problem.

[Quasi]

Originally Posted by Quasi

The problem with all these so-called solutions is that they are legislated by middle to old aged politicians, and enforced by a police force that these offenders see as an opponent, rather than an authority. Those coming up with this stuff are not even on the same wavelength of those they are targeting.

Originally Posted by |||

they should give you the chance to keep your car first. if you beat the cop in 2 out of three you get to keep the car. if you lose they crush it and bill you for the tyres they used in the burnout comp

Hmmmm, I don't usually quote myself, but......my point precisely

[savagE]

Let me just say that I have a clean record and don't hoon in public. (I'm a P2, yes its true, I am supposedly scum)

If that was to happen to me and lose my car, I would friggen gun it out of there, going a bit far. I hate this knee jerk/media outcry reactions.

[Falcon Coupe]

Threads merged.

[DBourne]

i havent read the rest of this thread cos well i dont have the patience.. but im sure that these laws would be done in extreme cases and when people are caught in dangerous circumstances (races on great western h.way when there is plenty of traffic) and to be honest GOOD!!

the people who do the really, really dumb stuff only care about 1 thing, their car. no ones life, not even their own, is a concern of theirs. so putting their cars in danger might be the only thing that causes them to listen up

[Airmon]

Stupidest thing I've read this year.
Well if I am 'hooning' and crash my car through someones fence or into a parked car guess who's insurance covers the person I hit? I hope the Governments willing to pay the value of the cars...

[Polyal]

Wow this thread is as good as the P plater one, and look, same ones harking up.

Some people are really good at jumping to conclusions. If anything like this was to happen, then im sure there would be some kind of prior conviction needed before crushing takes place; but in the case of severe first convictions then stuff them; kill the car.

The people/cars this kind of thing would target would be tossers who dont learn the first time. We all know them, you see them all the time. Just like the P plater thing, you only have something to worry about if you have guilt.

Your car will not be crushed because you accidentally spun a wheel etc get real people.

As for financing companies having a spit, I dont think so; your fault if you get done and you continue payments regardless if you have the car or not.

[FORD3V]

Police state here we come,

Fact is if governments were serious about speeding they would ban the sale of high performance cars,I am a petrol head through and through,but do I realy need a 300kw car????? Why do we all love high performance cars?????

Because they are bloody fast,we dont need them,we want them.

[Quasi]

Originally Posted by Polyal

The people/cars this kind of thing would target would be tossers who dont learn the first time. We all know them, you see them all the time. Just like the P plater thing, you only have something to worry about if you have guilt.

Not that I disagree with you mate, but you would also be willing to apply the same rules to the toss-off who gets caught doing 160 KM/H on a major expressway in his Turbo Territory on multiple occasions?

Originally Posted by FORD3V

Why do we all love high performance cars?????
Because they are bloody fast,we dont need them,we want them.

Speak for yourself mate.....if I don't get to the local train station in under 4 minutes life isn't worth living

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by Quasi

Not that I disagree with you mate, but you would also be willing to apply the same rules to the toss-off who gets caught doing 160 KM/H on a major expressway in his Turbo Territory on multiple occasions?

Hmm dont know if my other post answered it, but yeah. If he/she is dumb enough to do that and be caught more than once then wtf are they doing.

Also, everyone again is quick to criticize; but what else can you do? There are alreayd plenty of laws going around and it doesn't seem to deter people.

Crushing is a bit of a waste, parting it out and selling bits to fund road trauma charities would be a better idea.

Imagine walking down the street and seeing someone driving your car that was auctioned, that would suck...LOL

[danieleast]

its not thier car 2 crush or sell. or anything.

[DBourne]

Originally Posted by danieleast

its not thier car 2 crush or sell. or anything.

you are on their roads so u should abide by their rules. if tools continue to race time n time again, then stuff em