Cert IV IT Traineeship.

ef_classic · 29-11-2007, 05:45 PM

Can anyone in the industry give me an idea on what kind of knowledge you need to undertake this traineeship?

Perana · 29-11-2007, 06:18 PM

It would depend largely on which Cert IV in IT it actually is (ie. Network admin etc etc)

ON_DUBS · 29-11-2007, 06:29 PM

more info required.

as perana said which Cert IV are you talking about?

Venomous1 · 29-11-2007, 06:31 PM

Just completed my Cert IV networking.

i would say basic to moderate Pc skills would be required.
also Certificate III.
Do an evaluation test at the Uni.

3vXT · 29-11-2007, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Venomous™

Do an evaluation test at the Uni.

Anyone know of any online tests?

Josh_XC · 29-11-2007, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ken2903

Anyone know of any online tests?

I had to do an evaluation test before going into uni. Unfortunatly there is no online test for what i did as there is a possibility of cheating. I went to CSU so other uni's might be different

Josh_XC · 29-11-2007, 06:36 PM

I completed a cert 4 in IT (network admininstation) at tafe, its great for all your networking stuff. One word of warning no one really cares about cert 1-4, you need to go further in tafe and do the diploma in network engineering. Most employers i have found look highly on that.

As i have completed both IT bacholar in uni and the network engineering i found that the network engineering one was more benificial for me as it was more hands on. I can honestly say i learnt 10 times more at tafe than i ever did at uni.

XlR8TED · 29-11-2007, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh_XC

I can honestly say i learnt 10 times more at tafe than i ever did at uni.

10x more of what? Got to quantify what you're talking about...

The Uni/TAFE decision is entirely dependent on where you want to end up in IT. I'm doing Software Engineering because I like coding. So I could just as easily turn around and say that TAFE would teach me nothing & rubbish it, but then I really wouldn't be giving the right impression about how valuable it might be to someone following a different path. In other words, apples and oranges.

On another note:

"IT bacholar in uni"

I don't know what a 'bacholar' is, but if you put that on your resumee, expect to have it binned. Poor spelling and grammar made short and easy work of weeding through some applications we received recently. It's just as important as certs & quals IMO.

Josh_XC · 29-11-2007, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by XRSex

10x more of what? Got to quantify what you're talking about...

The Uni/TAFE decision is entirely dependent on where you want to end up in IT. I'm doing Software Engineering because I like coding. So I could just as easily turn around and say that TAFE would teach me nothing & rubbish it, but then I really wouldn't be giving the right impression about how valuable it might be to someone following a different path. In other words, apples and oranges.

On another note:

"IT bacholar in uni"

I don't know what a 'bacholar' is, but if you put that on your resumee, expect to have it binned. Poor spelling and grammar made short and easy work of weeding through some applications we received recently. It's just as important as certs & quals IMO.

ef_classic classic never really specified what course he was doing so i assumed it was network engineering/admin. Me saying i got 10 times more worth out of it than uni shows im not the type of person that just reads books and learns that way (which is what uni is). Im more of a hands on person and while me doing tafe i learnt a great deal more than i ever would have at uni.. Uni for me was irrelovent and a complete waste of time as it was not truly catered for what i wanted to do.

Also theres a bit of a difference from me writing in a forum than what i put in a resume mate. But I agree there are more important things you need other than certs and qualifications.

atec77 · 29-11-2007, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ef_classic

Can anyone in the industry give me an idea on what kind of knowledge you need to undertake this traineeship?

Basic computers and some networking dependant on exactly which certIV , I assume you will go on to the Dip ?

ef_classic · 29-11-2007, 07:04 PM

It does not specify what field, just that it is for a local Emergency Service Provider.

I have been shortlisted from about 20 people so i must have the right stuff.

Tribal · 29-11-2007, 09:09 PM

From my experience, Cert IV is just the waiting room for the world of IT. It will give you a basic understanding of what you are about to step into to. As for prequal - I had none, just a desire to work with computers.

I.T. is quite a vendor based industry, so once you are in the door, you'll want to start skilling up with company based certification to progress your career.

jonk · 30-11-2007, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal

From my experience, Cert IV is just the waiting room for the world of IT. It will give you a basic understanding of what you are about to step into to. As for prequal - I had none, just a desire to work with computers.

I.T. is quite a vendor based industry, so once you are in the door, you'll want to start skilling up with company based certification to progress your career.

Been there done that ! Just make sure that any company pays for the cert' process, many don't. It gets expensive otherwise. btw, you won't start at cert IV, probably cert 1 or 2. If your a n00b, you'd be starting at 1, which is basically Office 2003.

Also, the one's that go to Uni from TAFE do better in courses. Even ACS say this.