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View Poll Results: The correct way to pronounce the letter H is;
Haytch with a Huh. 58 40.00%
Aytch like it should be. 87 60.00%
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Old 25-09-2008, 12:45 AM   #1
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Having an dispute with the missus in regards to the letter H. She says it's pronounced "Haytch" with a huh. I say it's pronounced "Aytch" as you would pronounce eight. Once again I turn to AFF for back up.......lol I just got slapped

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Old 25-09-2008, 12:48 AM   #2
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Aytch is correct.

but since we are aussies, HAYYYYTCH goes just as well.
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Old 25-09-2008, 01:46 AM   #3
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OOOHHHH, I am so glad my wife is not standing behind me as I type this as a slap to the upside of the head would be coming.

Below is just my opinion and is not meant as a dig to anyone.

I say H as in huh, or haytch not aytch. Wife was taught aytch at school and her Mum also says it that way as she is a Pom.

I much prefer haytch as it sounds so much nicer, aytch sounds cheap and comes off the tounge like you don't know how to speak properly.

Always argue with the both of them to no end. They have our two girls aged 7 and 4 saying aytch and it drives me nuts. Damn sisterhood.

Can't work out why they say aytch but then say house, horrible, hat, why don't they say ouse, orrible and at, just like some of the English accents sound like...Cockney I think. (will stand corrected)

Anyway nice sounding haytch it is for me.

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Lemme just say, that ur relationships reached it's pinacle when you're fighting over this LOL ...


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Aytch is correct.

but since we are aussies, HAYYYYTCH goes just as well.
Also, KEEEEEEEENT.. Also used in our current society
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Old 25-09-2008, 07:25 PM   #5
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Did you know that "verb" is a noun?

How can you look up words in a dictionary if you can't spell them?

If a word is misspelled in a dictionary, how would we ever know?

If two mouses are mice and two louses are lice, why aren't two houses hice?

If Webster wrote the first dictionary, where did he find the words?

If you wrote a letter, perhaps you bote your tongue?

If you've read a book, you can reread it. But wouldn't this also mean that you would have to "member" somebody in order to remember them?

In Chinese, why are the words for crisis and opportunity the same?

Is it a coincidence that the only 15 letter word that can be spelled without repeating a letter is uncopyrightable?

Is there another word for a synonym?

Shouldn't there be a shorter word for "monosyllabic"?

What is another word for "thesaurus"?

Where do swear words come from?

Why can't you make another word using all the letters in "anagram"?

Why do fat chance and slim chance mean the same thing?

Why do overlook and oversee mean opposite things?

Why do people use the word "irregardless"?

Why do some people type "cool" as "kewl?"

Why do we say something is out of whack? What is a whack?

Why do we say something's out of order when its broken but we never say in of order when it works?

Why does "cleave" mean both split apart and stick together?

Why does "slow down" and "slow up" mean the same thing?

Why does flammable and inflammable mean the same thing?

Why does the Chinese ideogram for trouble symbolize two women living under one roof?

Why does X stand for a kiss and O stand for a hug?

Why doesn't "onomatopoeia" sound like what it is?

Why don't we say "why" instead of "how come"?

Why is "crazy man" an insult, while to insert a comma and say "Crazy, man!" is a compliment?

Why are a wise man and wise guy opposites?

Why is abbreviation such a long word?

Why is dyslexic so hard to spell?

Why is it so hard to remember how to spell MNEMONIC?

Why is it that no word in the English language rhymes with month, orange, silver, or purple?

Why is it that the word "gullible" isn't in the dictionary?

Why is it that we recite at a play and play at a recital?

Why is it that writers write but fingers don't fing, grocers don't groce and hammers don't ham?

Why is the alphabet in that order? Is it because of that song?

Why is the plural of goose-geese, and not the plural of moose-meese?

Why isn't "palindrome" spelled the same way backwards?

Why isn't phonetic spelled the way it sounds?
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Where do swear words come from?
Haaaa this is what a little birdy told me one day. It may be total BS, but then again, the explanations kinda sound semi-legitimate.

Fornicate Upon Consent of the King (seeing as generally you only ever did it while married of course, and a King was able to marry you, therefore allowing you to, well you know :king: : : : )

Store High In Transit... Sacks of manure that stunk really bad were kept as high as possible so as to not offend those around them...

The Chinese references are incorrect as well, according to my Chinese friend on MSN:

crisis= 危机 and opportunity= 机会

trouble=麻烦 and means two "wood" under the roof.

Hmmm lets get back to English now shall we :
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Haaaa this is what a little birdy told me one day. It may be total BS, but then again, the explanations kinda sound semi-legitimate.

Fornicate Upon Consent of the King (seeing as generally you only ever did it while married of course, and a King was able to marry you, therefore allowing you to, well you know :king: : : : )

Store High In Transit... Sacks of manure that stunk really bad were kept as high as possible so as to not offend those around them...

The Chinese references are incorrect as well, according to my Chinese friend on MSN:

crisis= 危机 and opportunity= 机会

trouble=麻烦 and means two "wood" under the roof.

Hmmm lets get back to English now shall we :
I thought trouble was two women under one roof... No seriously.
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The Chinese references are incorrect as well, according to my Chinese friend on MSN:

crisis= 危机 and opportunity= 机会
Lisa S: "Don't you know that the Chinese use the same word for crisis as they do for opportunity?

Homer: "Yes! Crisatunity! You're right! I'm going to find me a new bar to drink at...and I'm going to get more drunk than I ever have before! Bart! Where's my wallet?"

Bart: (pulls it out of his pocket) "Right here Dad!"
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Did you know that "verb" is a noun?...



...Why isn't phonetic spelled the way it sounds?
And how do you stop spelling Phenomenomeno.....
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Originally Posted by V3RSAC3
Did you know that "verb" is a noun?

How can you look up words in a dictionary if you can't spell them?

If a word is misspelled in a dictionary, how would we ever know?

If two mouses are mice and two louses are lice, why aren't two houses hice?

If Webster wrote the first dictionary, where did he find the words?

If you wrote a letter, perhaps you bote your tongue?

If you've read a book, you can reread it. But wouldn't this also mean that you would have to "member" somebody in order to remember them?

In Chinese, why are the words for crisis and opportunity the same?

Is it a coincidence that the only 15 letter word that can be spelled without repeating a letter is uncopyrightable?

Is there another word for a synonym?

Shouldn't there be a shorter word for "monosyllabic"?

What is another word for "thesaurus"?

Where do swear words come from?

Why can't you make another word using all the letters in "anagram"?

Why do fat chance and slim chance mean the same thing?

Why do overlook and oversee mean opposite things?

Why do people use the word "irregardless"?

Why do some people type "cool" as "kewl?"

Why do we say something is out of whack? What is a whack?

Why do we say something's out of order when its broken but we never say in of order when it works?

Why does "cleave" mean both split apart and stick together?

Why does "slow down" and "slow up" mean the same thing?

Why does flammable and inflammable mean the same thing?

Why does the Chinese ideogram for trouble symbolize two women living under one roof?

Why does X stand for a kiss and O stand for a hug?

Why doesn't "onomatopoeia" sound like what it is?

Why don't we say "why" instead of "how come"?

Why is "crazy man" an insult, while to insert a comma and say "Crazy, man!" is a compliment?

Why are a wise man and wise guy opposites?

Why is abbreviation such a long word?

Why is dyslexic so hard to spell?

Why is it so hard to remember how to spell MNEMONIC?

Why is it that no word in the English language rhymes with month, orange, silver, or purple?

Why is it that the word "gullible" isn't in the dictionary?

Why is it that we recite at a play and play at a recital?

Why is it that writers write but fingers don't fing, grocers don't groce and hammers don't ham?

Why is the alphabet in that order? Is it because of that song?

Why is the plural of goose-geese, and not the plural of moose-meese?

Why isn't "palindrome" spelled the same way backwards?

Why isn't phonetic spelled the way it sounds?
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Lemme just say, that ur relationships reached it's pinacle when you're fighting over this LOL ...
We've been together for 5 years now, and yet this is our only proper argument that we can't settle...... Serious huh?
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Aytch... I had it drilled into my head by my physics teacher in highschool. Why he was such a crusader for the English language, we may never know.
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Tell her it is AYTCH and only AYTCH

No further correspondance will be entered into

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"Aitch" redirects here. For the surname, see Aitch (Aich).
For other uses of "H", see H (disambiguation).

H is the eighth letter in the Latin alphabet. Its name in both British and American English is spelled aitch[1] (pronounced /eɪtʃ/) in most dialects, though in Irish, Singaporean, South Indian English and very occasionally British English it is haitch /heɪtʃ/. (See the discussion below on the two pronunciations of the name of this letter.) In the International Phonetic Alphabet, this symbol is used to represent two sounds. Its lowercase form, [h], represents the voiceless glottal fricative or 'aspirate', and its small capital form, [ʜ], represents the voiceless epiglottal fricative

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it seems it depends where you are from for me it's H
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... and lets not even get into Z...
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no reasoning behing it its just H = Aytch and Z = zed
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no reasoning behing it its just H = Aytch and Z = zed
Zed changes a B52's hit song into a stinker. :
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Having an dispute with the missus in regards to the letter H. She says it's pronounced "Haytch" with a huh. I say it's pronounced "Aytch" as you would pronounce eight. Once again I turn to AFF for back up.......lol I just got slapped
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I say Haytch. The reasoning is it's the actual "name" of the letter, so therefore it must have something to do with the letter itself, just like every other flaming letter in the flaming alphabet. If the poms themselves can't get it right then we've no 'ope.
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I say Haytch. The reasoning is it's the actual "name" of the letter, so therefore it must have something to do with the letter itself, just like every other flaming letter in the flaming alphabet. If the poms themselves can't get it right then we've no 'ope.
You forgot;

C, F, I, L, M, N, R, S, U, W, X and Y. Possibly a few more I missed.
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You forgot;

C, F, I, L, M, N, R, S, U, W, X and Y. Possibly a few more I missed.
I was trying to make some sense of the English language but you had to ruin it for me.


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This looks like two women to me. There's two guys standing outside, with one consoling the other from all the headaches and mayhem the two women have caused.
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This looks like two women to me. There's two guys standing outside, with one consoling the other from all the headaches and mayhem the two women have caused.
Haaa you're right! Those 2 men standing on the left hand side seem very out of proportion..... :
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I was trying to make some sense of the English language but you had to ruin it for me.
That's your problem right there ;) English is confusing by default. So many words pronounced the same but mean completely different things. Just try and explain there, their and they're to someone just learning the language - if they don't slap you then you didn't explain it right.
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I also got hammered by my parents when I pronounced it 'haytch', they're English and Scottish. I find that I'll use both aitch and haytch but the way I can tell which way I prefer is to determine which sentence sounds more natural.

House starts with an aytch.
House starts with a haytch.

The 2nd sentence just doesn't seem right.
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Definately Aytch...... but I'm british too... heh :P
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The amount of times I have had this argument with the Brits and Northern Americans whilst on the road is immeasurable.

Depends on the word it is used in. Strong 'H' with most words, so house (not 'ouse) but then when people used to say they had just finised their "Aych Ess See"... :

I'm pretty pedantic about how I pronounce words and sounds and try to not get lazy, as I teach English (amongst other things) full time here in OZ and part time overseas.

Let the debate continue :
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Looks like the Aytches have it :Reverend:
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Just asked my mum (who's a brit) and she says she's always been told "Aytch" so that's good enough for me.
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