Is this really what ford Australia is up against?

[GT69]

Today i was out on the foot path, warming the XR up and decided to take some pics.

I sent one of the XR and the XB off to a few friends, the replies i got was rather extreme.



One young lady replied 'hah, f-ing fords'

Another replied, 'both are s--t, should have bought a holden.'

Now, I'm not sure what annoyed me more, that both drive excels but fly the holden flag with ridiculous enthusiasm. Or that neither show any respect for a passion that i have personally (kind of like saying to a mother her child is ugly and it should have been a boy)

Now my reply was rather blunt. Simple and to the point. "Good to see you have no respect, so i wont waste anymore money on you".

But is this really what ford is up against?

Now honestly, i can understand someone not liking the XR, its common amongst the current brain-dead generation to have a very one eyed approach to what they like.




But the XB? Surely a classic muscle car transends this blind ford/holden fanboyism?

[XC-351]

its personal opinion to some your car may not be anything special even if its your pride n joy

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by BA-XR6

its personal opinion to some your car may not be anything special even if its your pride n joy

+1 and if they drive Hyundai Excels who cares what they think, they're dropkicks by the sounds of it

[Stattic]

Originally Posted by BA-XR6

its personal opinion to some your car may not be anything special even if its your pride n joy

silly thing to say, even if its not anything special the key term here is "pride and joy"
you dont say stuff like that to a friend who obviously loves his cars so much

[mik]

its very disconcerting to see comments made by others about some ones pride and joy, car videos on youtube are a perfect example....boganism is alive and well sadly.

[290v]

Don't worry mate i have the same thing here all these Holden fans driving around in Hyundi's, mitsubishi's and what ever but at least you put your money with your team and bought Fords

[Angeldust]

im into holdens, but that XB makes me weep. I WANT ONE

:(

[Paxton]

Originally Posted by Angeldust

im into holdens, but that XB makes me weep. I WANT ONE

:(

I'm into Fords, and I feel the same way.

Modern designers have a lot to learn from the XA-XC Coupes.

[Windsor220]

Originally Posted by GT69

Another replied, 'both are s--t, should have bought a holden.'

Should of just replied "or maybe a Hyundai........"

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by GT69

Now, I'm not sure what annoyed me more, that both drive excels but fly the holden flag with ridiculous enthusiasm.

Mate if they're driving excels then they're not really new car buyers. So if they're holden 'fans' then the loss is to Holden.

I know two Holden lovers that have moved over to the Ford Marque. But they're Holden through and through...even if they never owned Holdens. Most of the time its a bandwagon for a lot of these supporters.

BTW love both cars, would love either one sitting in my driveway.

[PepeLePew]

If they cant appreciate a car for what it is, and not just be blinded by some badge on its flanks, they are indicative of a truly sad 'sub' generation being raised by us today. The era of the car as an object of joy and envy is passing, at best it is becoming transport, at worst a object of derision helping to destroy the planet......today they'd rather spec up their glowing gaming PC's with some fancy cooling fan or some such....

God help us.

[alter_EGOXR]

i can understand why they said that about the modern falcon..its simple, GM (ie Holdens parent company) is bankrupt and the falcon has one alot more awards than the commodore...oh and i think a little bit of V8 supercars comes into the equation :P...but i dont understand why they would flame against the XB GT..its an iconic aussie muscle car...i would be more than happy to have either a classic GT or a monaro in my garage..its sad how some people are so ignorant and believe that they should be purchasing a car based on its make...if the FG falcon was rebadged as a holden, im quite sure a majority holden die hards would get themselves one...

[calais]

I have come across such comments with the one show I took my pride and joy to, It was the Z car club rally, (the one club who would let me show my car, A 1983 Mitsubishi Scorpion which has been fully restored) I was 20 at the time, and had just spent 4 years slowly rebuilding it, and really thought it was something out of the ordinary until the "concourse" judges wouldnt even look at it in its division " because it was without pedigree" and then went on to call it a "waste of their time". I have never shown the car again, and never will, To me cars are a personal thing, that enthusiasts grow attached to for reasons that sadly the majority of onlookers or passers by just never understand.

I take great pride in taking care of my vehicles, because it makes me feel good, and when some tool cruises past driving whatever he or she chooses and passes negative comment on either my Fiat Punto, Mitsubishi Scorpion, or Fiesta Ghia, I have nothing to say back to them. They quite simply arent worth the effort.

I have just ordered an XR6T ute and expect a lot of negative comments about why I didnt buy a Holden, and as I feel inside, Its my car, I have to drive it, I have to maintain it, Its my choice. I think thats the real reward of being an enthusiast, not winning awards, but simply being proud of what you have chosen and representing the brand or vehicle as well as you can in your own way.

Cheers,

Ash.

[gtxb67]

Originally Posted by calais

To me cars are a personal thing, that enthusiasts grow attached to for reasons that sadly the majority of onlookers or passers by just never understand.

that is very true. the only person that needs to be impressed is the owner - it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks - at all

[Pinkbits]

Originally Posted by calais

I have come across such comments with the one show I took my pride and joy to, It was the Z car club rally, (the one club who would let me show my car, A 1983 Mitsubishi Scorpion which has been fully restored) I was 20 at the time, and had just spent 4 years slowly rebuilding it, and really thought it was something out of the ordinary until the "concourse" judges wouldnt even look at it in its division " because it was without pedigree" and then went on to call it a "waste of their time". I have never shown the car again, and never will, To me cars are a personal thing, that enthusiasts grow attached to for reasons that sadly the majority of onlookers or passers by just never understand.

I take great pride in taking care of my vehicles, because it makes me feel good, and when some tool cruises past driving whatever he or she chooses and passes negative comment on either my Fiat Punto, Mitsubishi Scorpion, or Fiesta Ghia, I have nothing to say back to them. They quite simply arent worth the effort.

I have just ordered an XR6T ute and expect a lot of negative comments about why I didnt buy a Holden, and as I feel inside, Its my car, I have to drive it, I have to maintain it, Its my choice. I think thats the real reward of being an enthusiast, not winning awards, but simply being proud of what you have chosen and representing the brand or vehicle as well as you can in your own way.

Cheers,

Ash.

Post some pics up of your cars.

[gtxb67]

i do not see what the problem is, except for the lack of respect shown to the original poster. i do not care about any holden and do not look at any as classic's. it is true as hemank has suggested, that people base their tastes on the make, but that is natural. both ford and holden have kept to their own styling and principals for many years now and i like the ford way. it is also true that if ford produced the ve, i would somehow find a way to like parts of it, but there is nothing wrong with that - it is called loyalty. that doesn't mean i like all ford's or that i would argue an invalid point, but my heart is a blue oval and it will always remain that way

maybe the fact that i have never owned a car less than 14 years old is a reason for that, but if i was looking for a new car - it would be ford, mazda or german - i would not even consider going to a dealer with a kitten in it's logo

[Auslandau]

According to many who post on here its only Ford fans that are biased, while those with Holdens appreciate all makes so find this very hard to beleive!

I have quite a few mates who have Holdens who have loved giving me hell over the years about my Fords and V8 Supercars ...... they have shut up lately though after putting there bums into various VE"s. Discussions about cars have been very quiet of late



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[flappist]

No you have got it all wrong. They want you to buy a Holden so that they have a better car than you..........

[StealthAu]

The reality is there are alot of dipshits out there, alot of them are chicks. Ford suck and Holden rules, but the bulk of these dropkicks won't even be able to tell you what model or year any particular Holden is.

[Geez Louise]

Originally Posted by StealthAu

The reality is there are alot of dipshits out there, alot of them are chicks. Ford suck and Holden rules, but the bulk of these dropkicks won't even be able to tell you what model or year any particular Holden is.

Being a "Chick" has nothing to do with it. A drop kick is a drop kick regardless of gender.

I wouldnt know a new model Ford or Holden to save myself!! but show me a car from the 70's and I can usually tell you what make and model it is with about a 90% accuracy... (No one's perfect!)

[reds89]

i come across this often,so called holden supporters but dont drive one?,but quick to criticize ford,jelousy perhaps who knows.

[falzoony]

By the sound of it these people wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a ford and holden without the badges. I have friends like this too.
They would see it as harmless fun calling your car a POS but they obviously don't understand what it is like to have a REAL passion for cars.

[TC200six]

Don't let it affect you so much, you're certainly not alone. Bogans are everywhere these days. We went to a local convenience store after a V8 Supercar race(I think it was the 2005 Indy) and this idiot that ran the store who drives a TR or TS Magna said he was annoyed after "Lowndesy" won the round. He winged "Skaifie was right behind him, why didn't he overtake him? Holdens are better than Fords." It kind of annoys me because I know for a fact he has never driven the then-current model Fords and Holdens and that he's claiming that V8 Supercars are technically different to each other.

There's another idiot I know who really (for no reason) hates Fords. Ever since I've known this guy, he claims Ford is going bankrupt and they won't exist before the end of each year since 2007. He got upset to find out that my father just ordered a new G6E, he asked my why didn't he buy a Commodore and I said "because the G6E is newer and they have more power" and he says "who cares about that".
And what is his family's only car?... ...A Kia Rio. (sigh)

[Falcon Coupe]

I'd suggest choosing friends more carefully.

[yetchh]

i think just depends on the person and how aggressive and wise they are about their opinion, i've noticed that there are loads of one eyed ford lovers on this site also so holden is definitely not immune, i'm a big fan of 70's japanese cars and get a lot of stick from both ford and holden lovers about them being ricers, but who gives a stuff anyway, they all have their good points, i like both marques but if i was to buy new i'd get a holden as i think they look better, but the 70's ford def have an edge (huge) over the 70s holdens... IMHO people who scoff at one anothers cars arent true car lovers and dont understand the merits of what it means to be one, i'd go as far as to say they suffer from automotive ignorance...

[richa]

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

I'd suggest choosing friends more carefully.

Read this thread from the beginning,and up to Falcon coupes' Post...


Nuff Said...

[xe351]

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

I'd suggest choosing friends more carefully.

+1

one would have to wonder if they are in fact true friends

[WASP]

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

I'd suggest choosing friends more carefully.

When push comes to shove, that's the reality of the situation.

Most non-car enthusists will gravitate towards being pro-Holden as it's percieved as the local icon. Their cars are also percieved as being the better looking out of all the local brands. It can be a bitter pill to swallow at times, but that is what we as blue blooded supporters are dealing with.

This attitude is born out of complete ignorance IMO, but never the less you can either ignore it, join it, or do something about it. Being an active member on this Ford community website is one way of acting on your beliefs. Investing in, and driving a proud example of a Ford motor vehicle is another. Chosing to share your time with other like minded individuals is yet another again.

It's your choice. Best of luck
Colville

[GT69]

Originally Posted by CDAA

When push comes to shove, that's the reality of the situation.

Most non-car enthusists will gravitate towards being pro-Holden as it's percieved as the local icon. Their cars are also percieved as being the better looking out of all the local brands. It can be a bitter pill to swallow at times, but that is what we as blue blooded supporters are dealing with.

This attitude is born out of complete ignorance IMO, but never the less you can either ignore it, join it, or do something about it. Being an active member on this Ford community website is one way of acting on your beliefs. Investing in, and driving a proud example of a Ford motor vehicle is another. Chosing to share your time with other like minded individuals is yet another again.

It's your choice. Best of luck
Colville

Thanks mate. This is the first time in my life I've had none car-enthusiast friends. I have opted to change what perspective of my life certain friends see or here about. The mentality in itself is what p-sses me more than anything else, I've never for the life of me understood the die-hards, either side of the fence. It just strikes me as alittle : that people would insult someones passion because there's is a different brand of the same?

I often wonder if horse owners do the same, having different breeds and slagging off someone else.

[BlackLS]

Just like someone's mother, you should never say a thing negative about someone's car regardless of what they have.