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Old 29-01-2010, 10:54 AM   #1
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FORD POSTS FULL YEAR PROFIT FOR 2009; FOURTH QUARTER 2009 NET INCOME OF $868 MILLION; PLANS TO BE PROFITABLE IN 2010+

* Full year net income of $2.7 billion, or 86 cents per share, a $17.5 billion improvement from a year ago. Pre-tax operating profits of $454 million, a $7.3 billion improvement from a year ago++
* Fourth quarter net income of $868 million, or 25 cents per share, a $6.8 billion improvement from a year ago. Pre-tax operating profits of $1.8 billion, a $5.5 billion improvement from a year ago++
* Ford North America fourth quarter pre-tax operating profits of $707 million, a $2.6 billion improvement from a year ago++
* Reduced Automotive structural costs by $500 million compared with the fourth quarter 2008, bringing the total 2009 reduction to $5.1 billion, exceeding the target of about $4 billion
* Strong products drove full year market share gains in North America, South America and Europe as well as continued improvements in transaction prices and margins
* Ended the year with $25.5 billion of Automotive gross cash and $34.3 billion in Automotive debt
* Achieved positive Automotive operating-related cash flow of $3.1 billion for the fourth quarter. Full year Automotive operating-related cash outflow was $300 million, a $19.2 billion improvement over 2008
* Ford Credit fourth quarter pre-tax operating profits of $696 million, a $1.1 billion improvement from a year ago
* For full year 2010, Ford plans to be profitable on a pre-tax basis excluding special items, for North America, total Automotive and total company, with positive Automotive operating-related cash flow, based on its assumptions
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Ford chief executive officer Alan Mulally, said: "While we still face significant business environment challenges ahead, 2009 was a pivotal year for Ford and the strongest proof yet that our One Ford plan is working and that we are forging a path toward profitable growth by working together as one team, leveraging our global scale.

"In every part of the world, we are providing customers with great products, building a stronger business and contributing to a better world."
http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/247161/

Good news. Though this would include the Volvo and other sales, it is positive news and hopefully they can keep up the momentum. The One Ford plan could work.

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Woo Hoo - that is fantastic news :

Another step closer to GRWD!
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Great news, im waiting for wally to dissect and discredit it now....



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Thats brilliant, in light of everything that is so good. I have to send this to a mate who at the Australia Day BBQ I was at was sprouting Holden propaganda.
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Kinda contradicts what the media are trying to convey doesn't it...???
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Kinda contradicts what the media are trying to convey doesn't it...???
Not entirely, you can still post a profit but be in a truckload of debt (which is the case with Ford - they were just lucky enough to lock in their debt before the GFC).
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Not entirely, you can still post a profit but be in a truckload of debt (which is the case with Ford - they were just lucky enough to lock in their debt before the GFC).
I can see your point, but first you have to make a profit in order to pay back debt
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Not entirely, you can still post a profit but be in a truckload of debt (which is the case with Ford - they were just lucky enough to lock in their debt before the GFC).
Indeed. But its worth noting, that no one ever went broke making a small profit. And the difference is Ford is in business without the government bailout, unlike GM or Chrysler. So will be able to go forwards into the improving econic conditions with being hamstrung by government interference.

And im pretty sure that a major corporate restructure and locking in of billions of dollars in loans does not come about by luck.
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And im pretty sure that a major corporate restructure and locking in of billions of dollars in loans does not come about by luck.
No it was luck, Ford was able to lock in long term debt back in 2008; the appetite for lenders and liquidity in the lending market has gone since the GFC; simply put, no one is lending anymore. You would be silly to think that during this time GM and Chrysler were not making restructure attempts themselves; the exception here is that Ford sold PAG, offered nearly all of it's assets as collateral, and more importantly, had the fortune of a lot of their older debt reaching maturity.
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Just makes me even more dissapointed I didn't buy Ford stocks when they were at rock bottom.
Great result though. Hopefully some more positive press will come of it.
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Blue Oval returns to profit and FoMoCo plans to stay there in 2010

29 January 2010

By MARTON PETTENDY

FORD Motor Company rebounded from losses totalling $US30 billion ($A33.6b) between 2006 and 2008 – including a record $US14.7 billion ($A16.4b) net loss in 2008 – to post a full-year pre-tax operating profit of $US454 million ($A507.5m) for 2009.

After tax, Ford made a $US8 million ($A8.94m) profit compared with a loss of $US7.3 billion ($A8.16b) in 2008.

Announced yesterday (January 28) without fanfare, the result was due in part to a fourth-quarter operating profit, after taxes, of $US1.6 billion ($A1.79b) compared with a loss of $US3.3 billion ($A3.69b) in Q4 2008.

Ford reported fourth-quarter net income of $US868 million ($A972m), compared with a net loss of $US5.9 billion ($A6.6b) in Q4 2008.

Ford, the only US car-maker not to seek government loans and file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy last year amid the slowest domestic vehicle sales for 27 years, said it planned to post an operating profit again in 2010 on a pre-tax basis excluding special items both in North America and globally.

“We're going to be profitable in 2010,” said CFO Lewis Booth.

Ford said it turned a 2009 net income of $US2.7 billion ($A3.0b), or US86 cents (A96.3 cents) per share, driven in part by favourable net pricing, structural cost reductions, net gains on debt reduction actions and strong Ford Credit results.

It was the company’s first full year of positive net income since 2005 and a $US17.5 billion ($A19.6b) improvement over 2008.

Ford Credit reported net income of $US1.3 billion ($A1.46b) in 2009, an improvement of $US2.8 billion ($A3.13b) from a net loss of $US1.5 billion ($A1.69b) a year earlier.

Ford finished the year with $US25.5 billion ($A28.57) in gross automotive cash and $34.3 billion ($A38.43b) in automotive debt.

Ford CEO Alan Mulally said in a statement that Ford still faced significant business environment challenges.

“2009 was a pivotal year for Ford and the strongest proof yet that our One Ford plan is working and that we are forging a path toward profitable growth by working together as one team, leveraging our global scale,” he said.

Ford posted its first North American market share gain last year since 1995, with a 1.0 percentage point gain bringing it to 15.5 per cent. The Ford, Mercury and Lincoln brands were up 33 per cent up in December – Ford’s best sales month since May 2008.

Ford's US sales fell 15.4 per cent in 2009 – less than the industry average decline of 21 per cent – to 10.4 million vehicles, its lowest total since 1981.

Ford will raise production in the first quarter in North America by 20,000 units to 570,000 vehicles.

“We're encouraged by our cash position,” Mr Booth said in the US yesterday. “We are also seeing the benefit of our production being ramped up again.

“We have an uncompetitive balance sheet,” Booth said. “The most important thing is to return the business to fundamental health and pay down our debt.”
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Fords debt is, from memory, fairly well serviced and getting repaid when required. At least it's not government debt like GM and Chrysler's. Well done to ford for making a profit in uneasy times. We're on the winning team gang.
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Ford is on a roll, well done.
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They are certainly doing the hard yards and making headway.

A one point pickup in market share in the US. The "special item" $4.663 Bn revenue is intriguing, I'm wondering if it is convertible notes.

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Good news. Though this would include the Volvo and other sales, it is positive news and hopefully they can keep up the momentum. The One Ford plan could work.
I thought volvo sale was for first quarter this year which wouldn't be reported in the above. There was an agreement, but no transaction.
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I thought volvo sale was for first quarter this year which wouldn't be reported in the above. There was an agreement, but no transaction.

correct, feb 8 actually.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/55079/fo...on-february-8/
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Good news..
On another front, local opinion over there is that Ford are making GOOD products..
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I shall wait for the big, "BUT" from our good friends at Carsguide.

Great news with the company reading in the right direction.
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Better ... lol...

Great news with the company heading in the right direction.
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Definitely looking good for FoMoCO ATM, will be interesting to see where Ford lines up compared to GM in 4-5 years time.
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Definitely looking good for FoMoCO ATM, will be interesting to see where Ford lines up compared to GM in 4-5 years time.
That's a very good thought. I share that as well, especially when the Ford employees are told Ford has a disadvantage compared to GM and Chrysler because of 3 or 4 differences in contract give-backs (such as no-strike clause) yet tell the media Ford has an advantage over GM and Chrysler. Good to see people working so hard, they can even talk out of both sides of their mouth at the same time.



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Good stuff, It's nice to know that in a year that saw GM go bankrupt, and Chrysler merge with Fiat, Ford made a profit. Things are looking rosey.
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That is what I like. They lost cash earlier in the year, but by years end they were making solid profits making cars. This wasn't money from financial transactions. It also wasn't made from massive trimming down of excess inventory. Ford is making money from their core business.

Everything else looked terrific, but the above stood out to me.
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That is what I like. They lost cash earlier in the year, but by years end they were making solid profits making cars. This wasn't money from financial transactions. It also wasn't made from massive trimming down of excess inventory. Ford is making money from their core business.

Everything else looked terrific, but the above stood out to me.
And that's something the media and fans have to get into their heads,
Broadmeadows is now right sized for output.

Even though Ford only sold 31,000 Falcon sedans this year,
all of them sold for a profit and there were none left on the grass.
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And that's something the media and fans have to get into their heads,
Broadmeadows is now right sized for output.

Even though Ford only sold 31,000 Falcon sedans this year,
all of them sold for a profit and there were none left on the grass.
That is right. Total output was 55,000 in 2009 AFAIK. Approximate split was 31,000 Falcons. 14,000 Utes & 10,000 Territory.

I think a target of 60-65,000 is achievable in 2010. My projection would be 35,000 Falcons, 12,000 Utes & 15,000 Territory.
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That is right. Total output was 55,000 in 2009 AFAIK. Approximate split was 31,000 Falcons. 14,000 Utes & 10,000 Territory.

I think a target of 60-65,000 is achievable in 2010. My projection would be 35,000 Falcons, 12,000 Utes & 15,000 Territory.
My tip is 58,000 and no more than 60,000
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That is right. Total output was 55,000 in 2009 AFAIK. Approximate split was 31,000 Falcons. 14,000 Utes & 10,000 Territory.

I think a target of 60-65,000 is achievable in 2010. My projection would be 35,000 Falcons, 12,000 Utes & 15,000 Territory.
I think that sounds like a fair assumption and the introduction of Ecoboost I-4 in 2011
could spell a nice lift in buyers seeking something other than a mid sized fridge....


I got this off the Ford media site, pity FoA is lumped into all of Asia, would be nice to see actual figures...

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The improvement reflects primarily favorable net pricing, China joint venture profits and structural cost
reductions. Fourth quarter revenue was $1.6 billion, up from $1.4 billion a year ago.
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Since FoA's $274 million loss in 2008 resulted in a $208 million loss for FAPSA then,
Asia without FoA made a profit of $62 million.

I'm wondering whether FoA made another big loss in 2009 that was canceled out
by Asia increasing revenue by a further $200 million over 2008?

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That is right. Total output was 55,000 in 2009 AFAIK. Approximate split was 31,000 Falcons. 14,000 Utes & 10,000 Territory.

I think a target of 60-65,000 is achievable in 2010. My projection would be 35,000 Falcons, 12,000 Utes & 15,000 Territory.
To increase output by an extra 10000 units will take considerable thinking and planning to avoid costly overtime cost burdons and potential quality issues.... it isnt as simple as turning the line up or working more hours....



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Excellent news!, 2010 is looking like a very great year indeed, lets hope this trend continues :
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The Fiesta hits the US market about April and the new Focus in August-September. I believe the Focus will be a game changer for Ford. It has front end styling that Americans do NOT expect from Ford, and it looks pretty trendy.


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