Porsche 911 Turbo v. V8 Supercar

[Stefan]

Sydney Morning Herald Drive Section has a story on a Porsche 911 Turbo pitted against a Holden V8 Super Car on the 1/4 mile and on the race track.

The stock standard 911 Turbo did the 1/4 in 11.2secs :

The V8 S/C did it in 11.8 secs.

I was astounded, great read...

Kind of makes the HSV and FPV offerings very lame indeed..

[Cam]

Strange.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBPDCMMpGpM

[GS608]

Originally Posted by Cam

Strange.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBPDCMMpGpM

Comparing a T8 falc to Walkinshoddy VE..which do u thin would be faster? :p

[Stefan]

I'm not sure money or category of car comes into it. The V8 S/C and stock standard 911 turbo are not in the same league either : :

The comparison is a bit of tongue in cheek just like my FPV and HSV comment.

A bit of fun....remember that....probably not!

[GT290]

Originally Posted by Cam

Strange.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBPDCMMpGpM

yeah it is strange aint it mate. WTF happened there?

[Windsor220]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Kind of makes the HSV and FPV offerings very lame indeed..

They arent really in the same class though are they?

[4VCLEVO]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Sydney Morning Herald Drive Section has a story on a Porsche 911 Turbo pitted against a Holden V8 Super Car on the 1/4 mile and on the race track.

The stock standard 911 Turbo did the 1/4 in 11.2secs :

The V8 S/C did it in 11.8 secs.

I was astounded, great read...

Kind of makes the HSV and FPV offerings very lame indeed..

I don't think that HSV or FPV are lame. You get what you pay for don't you.
What is a new 911 turbo worth, $300,000?

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Kind of makes the HSV and FPV offerings very lame indeed..

Not really. I bet the typical HSV, or FPV costs ALOT less than a 911 Turbo.

[buggo]

Thats not really that terrible, a V8SC cost $400/450K to r&d and build, a porsche turbo cost $360k to buy, alot more if they only made a couple, so similar in price.
but then again, a v8 is lighter and more powerful with racing slicks and everything designed to go fast, so idk

[gcg2503]

I can see Stefans point. The fact that a V8 supercar is slower than a street legal 911 turbo is interesting to say the least. Just a humble Beetle road car ;)

[Falcon Coupe]

There are plenty of members cars on this forum that would beat both, they must be better.....

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

There are plenty of members cars on this forum that would beat both, they must be better.....

Beat...... till they have to stop or go around a corner....

[Auslandau]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

Beat...... till they have to stop or go around a corner....

Comparison was a 1/4 mile run ...... so apples for apples whats been achieved in over 30 years ..... (Refer sig below) and mines registered



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[Stefan]

Originally Posted by Auslandau

Comparison was a 1/4 mile run ...... so apples for apples whats been achieved in over 30 years ..... (Refer sig below) and mines registered

Yes the article also points out the Porsche can be driven to work every day in traffic, putter around town using 10L/100kms, with a nice radio AC leather trim, yet hose anything to legal speeds and beyond.

I'm sure your 11.2 required some sticky tires a bit of a burn-out.......30 years ago your car might have pulled a 16 second pass so it seems a fair bit has been achieved in 30 years

[smoo]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Yes the article also points out the Porsche can be driven to work every day in traffic, putter around town using 10L/100kms, with a nice radio AC leather trim, yet hose anything to legal speeds and beyond.

They shouldn't have stopped there, and pointed out that my 8 year old motorbike would dust the latest 911T.

IIRC the 996 GT3 cup cars lap Pukekohe faster than the V8SC, which is a track suited for high powered cars.

[The Monty]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Yes the article also points out the Porsche can be driven to work every day in traffic, putter around town using 10L/100kms, with a nice radio AC leather trim, yet hose anything to legal speeds and beyond.

I'm sure your 11.2 required some sticky tires a bit of a burn-out.......30 years ago your car might have pulled a 16 second pass so it seems a fair bit has been achieved in 30 years

Meh, I run 11.9's with no burnout, normal rubber and three baby seats and a tool box in the back, a full sized spare and a tank of fuel in my 4 door sedan. I also drive it daily, service it every 10 000km for only $350, and have a reasonable amount of kit as standard.

I think Im batting well enough to not be worried about something like the Porsche 911 Turbo.

[Elks]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

Beat...... till they have to stop or go around a corner....

TerminatorS built by CAT600 can do that, and it ran a 10.7 with full interior climate control etc. but that was with the old motor, picked up 60kw since then.

That said, I doubt it could sustain laps against the souped up volksy let alone a supercar. but I might be wrong there.

[CAT600]

Originally Posted by Elks

TerminatorS built by CAT600 can do that, and it ran a 10.7 with full interior climate control etc. but that was with the old motor, picked up 60kw since then.

That said, I doubt it could sustain laps against the souped up volksy let alone a supercar. but I might be wrong there.

Yep you are.

Ran around Barbagallo for 6 laps straight in the consistant 69's on street legal rubber with my "Road suspension" setup, blazing the tyres on every corner exit while an R35 GTR did one lap .4 secs faster but did 15 more laps and averaged about .5 secs slower, and we all know what a GTR will do to a 911.

Mind you the TS50 is about the same price as a 911 Turbo.... :togo:

Daniel

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by CAT600

Yep you are.

Ran around Barbagallo for 6 laps straight in the consistant 69's on street legal rubber with my "Road suspension" setup, blazing the tyres on every corner exit while an R35 GTR did one lap .4 secs faster but did 15 more laps and averaged about .5 secs slower, and we all know what a GTR will do to a 911.

Mind you the TS50 is about the same price as a 911 Turbo.... :togo:

Daniel

I never did see too many of these TS50s roll off the showroom floor with warrantee and over 500rwkw...you must have just picked up fluke engine.

[mcnews]

Originally Posted by CAT600

Yep you are.

Ran around Barbagallo for 6 laps straight in the consistant 69's on street legal rubber with my "Road suspension" setup, blazing the tyres on every corner exit while an R35 GTR did one lap .4 secs faster but did 15 more laps and averaged about .5 secs slower, and we all know what a GTR will do to a 911.

Mind you the TS50 is about the same price as a 911 Turbo.... :togo:

Daniel

Gee mate get out of second next time :-). I did 68s on my 46hp dirt bike (road tyres though of course)
My stock standard E49 Charger on 205s and brakes that didn't last a lap was 74

[1LOUDXFUTE]

what would be faster around a track out of the two?

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by 1LOUDXFUTE

what would be faster around a track out of the two?

The Porsche did Phillip Island in 1.46.9 the V8 S/C did it 1.36.07. Fabian Coultard drove both and thought the slick tyres on the race car were worth about 5 sec a lap.

The Porsche is only quicker to about 200km/h then the V8 over takes.

Another part of the story says the only Holden parts the V8 S/C has in common with a road car is the bonnet, part of the roof, front doors and the rear screen. The Fords are no different. The race cars even have a shorter wheel base with 100mm taken out of the rear doors!!

[XR8putts]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Another part of the story says the only Holden parts the V8 S/C has in common with a road car is the bonnet, part of the roof, front doors and the rear screen. The Fords are no different.

Wing mirrors? Headlights? Taillights? Bootlid? :togo:

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by puts99

Wing mirrors? Headlights? Taillights? Bootlid? :togo:

Boot lid carbon fibre so no :

I'm not sure the article was being that literal there may a few extra parts on common like door handles... :

[XR8putts]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Boot lid carbon fibre so no :

You sure?

I'd love to see proof, it goes against everything I've seen whilst watching the V8Supercars all these years.

[Dave R]

Well the Porsche is light, nimble and powerful - of course it is fast. Although I'd like to see it challenge a V8SC around a track for 50 laps flat out.....

[FTE217]

Originally Posted by Adrenaline

Well the Porsche is light, nimble and powerful - of course it is fast. Although I'd like to see it challenge a V8SC around a track for 50 laps flat out.....

What makes you think 50 laps gives advantage to the Supercar ?
I know where my $$ would be on and with a certain steerer called J Richards.

Thanks for heads up Stefan mad comparo !

[220]

Originally Posted by Adrenaline

Well the Porsche is light, nimble and powerful - of course it is fast. Although I'd like to see it challenge a V8SC around a track for 50 laps flat out.....

Might be a lot closer than you think.
Have a look at the lap times of the porsche cup cars, within a second or 2 of the V8SC's, these are a less powerful than the turbo, but built as a road legal race car. What would they do with the turbos HP?

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by 220

Might be a lot closer than you think.
Have a look at the lap times of the porsche cup cars, within a second or 2 of the V8SC's, these are a less powerful than the turbo, but built as a road legal race car. What would they do with the turbos HP?

The Porche cup cars are very fast but still a few seconds a lap slower than a V8SC...
Over 50 laps the V8SC could probably come close to lapping a Porche cup car twice on most circuits....

[GTP370]

Thanks for sharing Stefan...the 911 997 Turbo is an awesome car!!!