Eco Boost. What are the chances of an F4???????

tweeked · 28-07-2010, 02:48 PM

Would you want one?

If FPV got 220kw and 430nm out of the fourpotter, the handling should be the best in the stable and the economy still better than the N/A 6.

pottery beige · 28-07-2010, 02:56 PM

Ummmm... No..

Yellow_Festiva · 28-07-2010, 03:30 PM

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Ummmm... No..

Agreed.

FalconXV · 28-07-2010, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pottery beige

Ummmm... No..

I would like one. FPV styling with <200g CO2 and great economy? sub $50k entry price? Also handling benefit of alloy four pot, would be a revelation, I would say. Wouldn't require much tuning either. I hope at the very least for an XR version...

pottery beige · 28-07-2010, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FalconXV

I would like one. FPV styling with <200g CO2 and great economy? sub $50k entry price? Also handling benefit of alloy four pot, would be a revelation, I would say. Wouldn't require much tuning either. I hope at the very least for an XR version...

cool.. just dont put an FPV badge on it...

flappist · 28-07-2010, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by pottery beige

cool.. just dont put an FPV badge on it...

Well at least wait until the coyote is common so the GT will be quicker than it......

vztrt · 28-07-2010, 09:33 PM

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Well at least wait until the coyote is common so the GT will be quicker than it......

haha, beat me to it.

smoo · 29-07-2010, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by FalconXV

I would like one. FPV styling with <200g CO2 and great economy?

Geez, the nazi green police have managed to brainwash a gas guzzling Falcon driver with their crap.

vztrt · 28-07-2010, 03:32 PM

Dont think it would sell.

XRGREIGHT · 28-07-2010, 03:47 PM

Well how about a festy with this motor then ?

CFOUR · 29-07-2010, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pottery beige

Ummmm... No..

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Agreed.

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Dont think it would sell.

What they said.

Quicksand · 28-07-2010, 03:47 PM

Depends. We know the Focus RS and Focus ST (Focus XR5T in OZ) will be getting the EcoBoost engine to replace the I5 Volvo engine. So if that is the case, FPV may have the option to take the Focus RS and re-badge it as an FPV.

I dont think that will happen though, as i remember FPV saying they would want to make their own. I think i also remember FPV saying they dont want to do it right now. Times are changing though, if they keep dropping models there might be room for other things.

Would i buy one? No, it isn't in line with where i am at in my life (new baby etc). 10 years ago? Definitely on the cards.

TheInterceptor · 28-07-2010, 03:52 PM

in a fiesta/focus, it wouldent be to bad
in a falcon, no no no...

LightningStrike · 28-07-2010, 03:54 PM

Let me drive a pilot build car first........

pottery beige · 28-07-2010, 04:43 PM

i will wee my pants the first ecoboost GT mock up i see...

Transfiguring R · 28-07-2010, 04:52 PM

I'd want it in a Focus for sure, but not in a Falcon, as others have said.

JutroXR8 · 28-07-2010, 04:52 PM

I can't see it happening. At least ya thinking outside the box!!

g220ba · 28-07-2010, 05:29 PM

The ecoboost is designed to boost the eco credibility of the falcon and ford in general, so there is next to no chance of there being anything to do with fpv or even an xr variant.

Quicksand · 29-07-2010, 10:05 AM

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The ecoboost is designed to boost the eco credibility of the falcon and ford in general, so there is next to no chance of there being anything to do with fpv or even an xr variant.

I'm assuming you mean a Falcon XR variant? The EcoBoost is meant to be replacing the Volvo I5 engine in the Focus ST (the Euro version of our XR5T) so it will most likely make it into an XR variant, albeit a Focus XR5T.

Franco Cozzo · 28-07-2010, 05:39 PM

Chuck the 2L EB4 into the Fiesta, 170Kw in a 1090kg car O_o and chuck a FPV badge on it.

Grippy · 28-07-2010, 05:51 PM

In a Focus or Fiesta yes, not in an FPV thanks

jpd80 · 28-07-2010, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Grippy

In a Focus or Fiesta yes, not in an FPV thanks

What if FPV started selling hot versions of Fiesta and Focus?

Nikked · 28-07-2010, 07:22 PM

Yes.

But that would depend on the I4 sales. IT would be interesing to see, it would probabally fit better at the 'GS' end of the range.

Windsor220 · 28-07-2010, 07:40 PM

If they put on a T66 turbo with NOS and a Motec system exhaust then maybe.

GTP-814 · 28-07-2010, 10:13 PM

there would be enough room in the engine bay for two of them to make a straight 8

chevypower · 28-07-2010, 11:37 PM

If the EB 2.0 could output those figures (and I bet it can), that's the same power as the original gen 3 (which seemed to be thought of as powerful) and slightly less torque, but remember the gen 3 was quite 'peaky' in it's torque delivery, whereas the EB motors have peak torque from 1700-5000rpm. Couple that to a nice 6+ speed auto, it's going to be faster than a VT series 2 SS.

Carby · 29-07-2010, 11:26 AM

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If the EB 2.0 could output those figures (and I bet it can), that's the same power as the original gen 3 (which seemed to be thought of as powerful) and slightly less torque, but remember the gen 3 was quite 'peaky' in it's torque delivery, whereas the EB motors have peak torque from 1700-5000rpm. Couple that to a nice 6+ speed auto, it's going to be faster than a VT series 2 SS.

Ohh great it will be marginally faster than a 10 year old car............

Things have moved on, and a FPV 4 cylinder performance Falcon just doesn't seem the right fit.

chevypower · 29-07-2010, 11:41 AM

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Ohh great it will be marginally faster than a 10 year old car............

Things have moved on, and a FPV 4 cylinder performance Falcon just doesn't seem the right fit.

So you think a Gen 3 SS is slow? Well don't you have bloody high expectations? LOL. Funny how things are moving on, but yet some people still have the "no replacement for displacement" motto.

Nikked · 29-07-2010, 06:38 PM

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So you think a Gen 3 SS is slow? Well don't you have bloody high expectations? LOL. Funny how things are moving on, but yet some people still have the "no replacement for displacement" motto.

Well said.

Will it hurt brand image? No

Imagine, if it did happen, and you could get the economy of a standard 6cly falcon, but with a good dose of power, 220-30kw?

An "economical" FPV hass the potential to attract customers and attention to the brand.

Joe5619 · 29-07-2010, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Carby

Ohh great it will be marginally faster than a 10 year old car............

Things have moved on, and a FPV 4 cylinder performance Falcon just doesn't seem the right fit.

You are 100% right about things moving on & a EB4 turbo is probably a better fit then a V8 Turbo in the current environment.. If FPV had have been around 10 years ago, I'm sure there would have been people laughing at a i6T in an FPV type of Falcon.. Who knows where we'll be in another 10 years??