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Old 06-09-2010, 08:46 AM   #1
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Default fpv have coyote, hsv's return fire ?

hsv have the ls3 atm. will that be enough in stock form to take it to coyote S/C ... NO... so what steps do you think hsv will take in order to keep up... what about gxp positioning now that we know how gs is structured.


i dont think the ls3 is going anywhere...

p.s mods i reckon this thread should stay her since its regarding coyote... but sorry if it isn't and you guys disagree with me

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Old 06-09-2010, 09:00 AM   #2
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hsv have the ls3 atm. will that be enough in stock form to take it to coyote S/C ... NO... so what steps do you think hsv will take in order to keep up... what about gxp positioning now that we know how gs is structured.


i dont think the ls3 is going anywhere...

p.s mods i reckon this thread should stay her since its regarding coyote... but sorry if it isn't and you guys disagree with me
Details of HSV E3 in the Pub.
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Old 06-09-2010, 10:49 AM   #3
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Old 06-09-2010, 09:13 AM   #4
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LS3 has a lot of potential in it. They also have LSA....
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heard from a holden worker chev motor wont pass euro v ..so could be a new motor coming ??.s/charged 6.2l maloo ute .hmmmnnn.
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L99/LSA V8's
3.0/3.6 Bi-Turbo
are in the pipeline, its possable that holden will delete the V8's.. depending on sales of V6's..
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They'll have to drop the 8 when they go FWD in 2015.

Turbo 6 is good but doesn't hold a candle to the mighty Barra.

Good times to be in the blue corner.
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Old 06-09-2010, 11:49 AM   #8
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They'll have to drop the 8 when they go FWD in 2015.

Turbo 6 is good but doesn't hold a candle to the mighty Barra.

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Huh? Something I missed?
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Huh? Something I missed?

No, I've just got my "Wheels" magazine sponsored journalism degree. It fell out the bottom of my cornflakes packet this morning and now I'm qualified to make grossly inadequate, uneducated and unsolicited claims. I also get a discount on NRMA membership.
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No, I've just got my "Wheels" magazine sponsored journalism degree. It fell out the bottom of my cornflakes packet this morning and now I'm qualified to make grossly inadequate, uneducated and unsolicited claims. I also get a discount on NRMA membership.
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Old 07-09-2010, 08:33 AM   #11
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No, I've just got my "Wheels" magazine sponsored journalism degree. It fell out the bottom of my cornflakes packet this morning and now I'm qualified to make grossly inadequate, uneducated and unsolicited claims. I also get a discount on NRMA membership.
Bullsh*t - can't possibly be a Holden Monthly -, er, I mean "Wheels" magazine Journalisim Degree - you are clearly the Blue Corner.


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They'll have to drop the 8 when they go FWD in 2015.

Turbo 6 is good but doesn't hold a candle to the mighty Barra.

Good times to be in the blue corner.
GM have plenty of FWD V8's in their line up..
as for holden, will not be going FWD as their's no case for it..
if anything they "may" go AWD, but no mention of it..
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GM have plenty of FWD V8's in their line up..
as for holden, will not be going FWD as their's no case for it..
if anything they "may" go AWD, but no mention of it..
They have the one out of the Impala, and its hardly worth writing home about let alone putting it on a ship all the way to Australia. It kinda reminds me of the 253.

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They have the one out of the Impala, and its hardly worth writing home about let alone putting it on a ship all the way to Australia. It kinda reminds me of the 253.

There is no place for Zeta in new GM
Eh? What's wrong with the 5.3? It's not the most powerful V8 engine in the world, but it's far from being gutless. It's also one of those most economical V8 engines you could ever have. It's really a good engine.
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Old 06-09-2010, 11:52 AM   #15
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Holden will release whatever Chevrolet do. So if Chevrolet have to make the LS motors pass euro 5, then Holden will import that motor.
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Holden will release whatever Chevrolet do. So if Chevrolet have to make the LS motors pass euro 5, then Holden will import that motor.
Chevrolet have nothing to do with it. It is just a model series brand name like Holden, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Vaxhall, Opel etc. (Well with the exception of the huge "bowtie badge export to Australia division" that some say is what has actually kept GM afloat during the GFC).

The engines are designed, developed and manufactured by General Motors Engine Division (GMED).

Of course "Powered by GMED" is nowhere near as fully sick as "It's got the chevvy engine mate"....
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Chevrolet have nothing to do with it. It is just a model series brand name like Holden, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Vaxhall, Opel etc. (Well with the exception of the huge "bowtie badge export to Australia division" that some say is what has actually kept GM afloat during the GFC).

The engines are designed, developed and manufactured by General Motors Engine Division (GMED).

Of course "Powered by GMED" is nowhere near as fully sick as "It's got the chevvy engine mate"....
Point taken, my bad......
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Old 06-09-2010, 01:11 PM   #18
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I remember hearing that the next gen V8 in the Corvettes will be a 5.5l with DI. HSV will probably pick this up.

In the meantime, I cant see them doing anything to drastic, maybe a tune to match the FPV's in VF.

As for LSA/LS9, I think they would be too costly to compete with the GT's, with the engines being about the same price as an LS7.
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A thread I started back in April that gives the options that Holden will have.

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11295593
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When I was much younger I thought a chevvy was like a super expensive fantastic sports brand like Ferrari because of the way bogans revered it. Then i realised it's just another average car brand..
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As per normal they will probably stick a chev in it! That`s the only way they can make a holden go!
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As per normal they will probably stick a chev in it! That`s the only way they can make a holden go!

and by chev you mean GM????? and seeing how they are both part of GM whats your point?
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As per normal they will probably stick a chev in it! That`s the only way they can make a holden go!
Nah, GM America just make them go slower. From memory the Camero was slower around the top gear track then the Maloo.
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Nah, GM America just make them go slower. From memory the Camero was slower around the top gear track then the Maloo.
Want to try that against the new corvette!
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Why can`t GMH australia make there own motor? instead of borrowing GM`s all the time?
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R&D, and cost. There's no real reason for Holden to design, and build their own V8s when it's easier to get one from GM's line up.
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R&D, and cost. There's no real reason for Holden to design, and build their own V8s when it's easier to get one from GM's line up.
Yes your right! it`s all about the big bucks! What do us dumb aussies know about building cars & keepin money & jobs in this country anyhow!
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I wasn't trying to imply that mate. I just don't see any logical reason as to why Holden need to build their own V8s when the GM offerings are just fine.

It's not like Holden don't know how to make their own V8. EFI 304? Or how about the 5.7L stroker in the VS GTS-R?
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I wasn't trying to imply that mate. I just don't see any logical reason as to why Holden need to build their own V8s when the GM offerings are just fine.

It's not like Holden don't know how to make their own V8. EFI 304? Or how about the 5.7L stroker in the VS GTS-R?
Sorry Ryan wasn`t havin ago at you! I just like to see australians making there own stuff! Because we do a good job when we do it! as I said though it`s all about savin a buck these days
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I wasn't trying to imply that mate. I just don't see any logical reason as to why Holden need to build their own V8s when the GM offerings are just fine.

It's not like Holden don't know how to make their own V8. EFI 304? Or how about the 5.7L stroker in the VS GTS-R?
haha sorry but the 304 was crap, the buick and ecotec sixes were a hell of a lot better, even the ford sixes of the time were as good if not better

plus it seems 304 inst good enough for the holden driver of it thats why they have to stroke it to 355 lol hopeless if ya ask me



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