Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > Non Ford Related Community Forums > The Bar

The Bar For non Automotive Related Chat

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 28-06-2011, 10:40 PM   #1
Riksta
Captain Malcolm Reynolds
 
Riksta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 3,830
Default Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

This one's come about due to my addiction to engineering-type documentaries lately.

The Situation:
You are armed with a camera crew to film a documentary of any important historical event or disaster. You have a helicopter which can travel through time, to go back to any time and film something from times gone by.

Now, the helicopter is cloaked in some sort of mystical cloaking device - nobody in history will see it, will not be able to interact with it, and you are basically invisible and "not there" to anyone should you get out to do any filming. You are NOT able to change history at all, you are a "historical journalist" basically there to film the events for a documentary. No matter what you do, history will not be changed, we will now just have footage of the event. You are an observer - and there to find out exactly how things were done or what happened.

You CAN go back to events which have been captured on film, to get better footage, or a vantage point which was never able to be captured at the time.

Personally, off the top of my head, I would go back and film:
- The building of the pyramids
- The sinking of the Titanic
- The Wright Brothers' first flight

So what would you choose to go and film?

__________________
Currently: 2014 Mazda6 GT (Daily) and 1999 Mazda MX5 (Fun Car)
Previously: 2001 Ford Escape XLT; 2010 MC Mondeo; 1984 FD LTD; 2001 AU2 Falcon Forte; 2005 LS Focus Zetec; 1988 RE Colt; 1982 RB Colt; 1974 KE20 Corolla
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikked
Riksta likes VN's so much, he has the ashes of a VN in a jar on the mantle piece, a vile of VN engine oil hanging from his neck and a BT1 build plate locked up in a safe, buried under 6ft of concrete.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Day-mow
pretty much what has happened here is i trolled you. and it was fun.
Riksta is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 28-06-2011, 10:47 PM   #2
Geez Louise
Awesome
 
Geez Louise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: In my own little world..Everyone here knows me :)
Posts: 9,401
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: All the behind the scenes things that help the community. 
Default Re: Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

That's a good question Riksta. So many historical events that have left so many questions.

Mine would probably be, the shooting of JFK...and be at a spot where you could see who actually fired the shot!

But if history couldn't be changed...well there isn't much point...or are you saying, you can not alter at the time, an event in history??

Cheers
Col
__________________
Geez Louise is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 28-06-2011, 10:50 PM   #3
Geez Louise
Awesome
 
Geez Louise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: In my own little world..Everyone here knows me :)
Posts: 9,401
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: All the behind the scenes things that help the community. 
Default Re: Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

Thinking more about your hypothetical, if you could film anyone...I would film Jesus.

Think of how many questions that would answer.
__________________
Geez Louise is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 28-06-2011, 10:58 PM   #4
flappist
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 12,077
Default Re: Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Geez Louise
Thinking more about your hypothetical, if you could film anyone...I would film Jesus.

Think of how many questions that would answer.
It may just cause the greatest conflict since........well ever......

My theory on why time travel will never be available.

Every time it is invented an agent from "insert religion here" will come back and stop it because some truths are just too inconvenient.

But mine would be a time lapse for the next 1000 years to show the truth of "climate change".
flappist is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 28-06-2011, 10:57 PM   #5
Riksta
Captain Malcolm Reynolds
 
Riksta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 3,830
Default Re: Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

That's correct Col, you can't change history at the time. So in filming JFK, you wouldn't be able to stop him being shot, he would still die that day, and everything that happened after that day would advance as normal.

However, if you were to film it and clearly be able to see who did it, when footage is bought back to current time and aired, the answer to the question would then of course become public knowledge. So the police at the time would not then be able to go and arrest the "real" killer instead of Lee Harvey Oswald. The footage would be bought back to the current time, while you are gone time would advance real time here and if you were gone for 24 hours, you would return 24 hours after you left.

The time of Jesus would definitely be interesting.

Another one I came up with a moment ago is the extinction of the dinosaurs. And Hindenberg.
__________________
Currently: 2014 Mazda6 GT (Daily) and 1999 Mazda MX5 (Fun Car)
Previously: 2001 Ford Escape XLT; 2010 MC Mondeo; 1984 FD LTD; 2001 AU2 Falcon Forte; 2005 LS Focus Zetec; 1988 RE Colt; 1982 RB Colt; 1974 KE20 Corolla
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikked
Riksta likes VN's so much, he has the ashes of a VN in a jar on the mantle piece, a vile of VN engine oil hanging from his neck and a BT1 build plate locked up in a safe, buried under 6ft of concrete.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Day-mow
pretty much what has happened here is i trolled you. and it was fun.
Riksta is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 28-06-2011, 11:05 PM   #6
Riksta
Captain Malcolm Reynolds
 
Riksta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 3,830
Default Re: Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

Due to forum T's & C's I think we should end the topic of the religion on that point before we get locked ;)

Interesting an idea of the climate change time lapse.

I would just like to insert an adendum to my first post as well:
You cannot die while filming this historical event. The split second before you die, both yourself and your equipment (including the footage you shot) are instantly transported forward to the relevant time for you to arrive back (ie if you'd been gone 2.5 hours, you'd land 2.5 hours after you left).

Imagine 9/11 footage filmed from inside WTC with the plane coming right for you. Or footage filmed from the stern of the Titanic just before it disappears under the ocean surface.
__________________
Currently: 2014 Mazda6 GT (Daily) and 1999 Mazda MX5 (Fun Car)
Previously: 2001 Ford Escape XLT; 2010 MC Mondeo; 1984 FD LTD; 2001 AU2 Falcon Forte; 2005 LS Focus Zetec; 1988 RE Colt; 1982 RB Colt; 1974 KE20 Corolla
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikked
Riksta likes VN's so much, he has the ashes of a VN in a jar on the mantle piece, a vile of VN engine oil hanging from his neck and a BT1 build plate locked up in a safe, buried under 6ft of concrete.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Day-mow
pretty much what has happened here is i trolled you. and it was fun.
Riksta is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 28-06-2011, 11:05 PM   #7
FreddyDUZ747
Banned
 
FreddyDUZ747's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: SA
Posts: 5,213
Default Re: Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

Great thread Rick.

Harrold Holts dissaperence.
FreddyDUZ747 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 28-06-2011, 11:06 PM   #8
Yellow_Festiva
Where to next??
 
Yellow_Festiva's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 8,893
Default Re: Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

Find out what really crashed in Roswell.

See how the pyramids were built.

Any of the many miracles that appear in the Bible.

The Tunguska event.
Yellow_Festiva is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 28-06-2011, 11:09 PM   #9
Resurrection
I was correct - AGAIN
 
Resurrection's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Third rock from the sun
Posts: 1,801
Default Re: Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

The birth of Jesus in Bethlehem.
Resurrection is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 28-06-2011, 11:09 PM   #10
Psi-Pop
on the way to the RSL
 
Psi-Pop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Almurta
Posts: 1,487
Default Re: Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

-Battle of Britain, Just to be able to see Spitfires flown in anger, I know we have footage and know what happened but it would be nice to have some footage shot in HD.

-Chernobyl, I just find it fascinating and I think it would be interesting to find out more than what was told at the time.
__________________
ED GLi - DOHC - GT42R - 2 Speed - 275 Radials- Moser 9"
8.9x@160mph+
Psi-Pop is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 05-07-2011, 08:33 AM   #11
DBourne
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
DBourne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: sydney.nsw.au
Posts: 6,119
Default Re: Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Psi-Pop
-Battle of Britain, Just to be able to see Spitfires flown in anger, I know we have footage and know what happened but it would be nice to have some footage shot in HD.
friggen yes!!!!

Keeping with the WWII theme, I'd be interested in a doco from the german side, showing Hitler rise to power.. No american rubbish, only what the Germans thought and saw.

Then moving away from WWII, the gladiators.
__________________
flickr
DBourne is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 05-07-2011, 09:00 AM   #12
XR6_661
Cane Farmer
 
XR6_661's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Tom Price, WA
Posts: 4,056
Default Re: Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtBourne
friggen yes!!!!

Keeping with the WWII theme, I'd be interested in a doco from the german side, showing Hitler rise to power.. No american rubbish, only what the Germans thought and saw.

Then moving away from WWII, the gladiators.
With you on both those.

Going back and doing a doco on the real Robin Hood would be cool.
__________________

1994 ED XR6T - Cobalt Blue.



2009 FG XR6 - Black.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Tex
I couldn't give a crap how many are in their family, what gay passtimes they paticipate in, or whether they have a cat, dog or a freaken fish.

Keep your stinking family to yourself god damn it.
XR6_661 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 05-07-2011, 01:33 PM   #13
castellan
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,215
Default Re: Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

Well i have thought if I could go with DR Who it would only be with the 4th one with Tom Baker may be the 3rd or 1st but non other.
I probably would go back about the 1980's and stay their and make sure that with my doco that we don't go down the road we are on with all our PC rubbish we now have.
castellan is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 05-07-2011, 02:19 PM   #14
castellan
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,215
Default Re: Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtBourne
friggen yes!!!!

Keeping with the WWII theme, I'd be interested in a doco from the german side, showing Hitler rise to power.. No american rubbish, only what the Germans thought and saw.

Then moving away from WWII, the gladiators.
Only what the Germans thought and saw.

You can find that out easy enough but it is not what most people are interested in.
So there is no movie film of such that i know about but have doco's of Germans talking about it all.
Most people only want to see horror blood and guts, blowing up things and just stupid narrow minded nonsense that can easily be gone along with.
But not many will sit through and have the capacity to understand history fully, plus it would take days or months to comprehend it all entirely.
The Americans have a unclouded view on it all.

We hear in aus have people who saying our gov now is talking big lies now and the majority don't give a toss. and that's the way it goes.
castellan is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 28-06-2011, 11:09 PM   #15
SM1DY
LIKE A BOSS 351
 
SM1DY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Gold Coast
Posts: 2,779
Default Re: Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

I'd go and film the actually events of Frodo's quest to Mordor. I think Peter Jackson glorified inter-species relations far to much and that took away from the heroic human sacrifice.
SM1DY is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 28-06-2011, 11:12 PM   #16
Geez Louise
Awesome
 
Geez Louise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: In my own little world..Everyone here knows me :)
Posts: 9,401
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: All the behind the scenes things that help the community. 
Default Re: Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

Here is something a little bit morbid, but Princess Dianna's death. What really happened?

Love to see some footage of Genghis Khan too and who really made the Terracotta warriors and why.

And I agree, no more religious comments as it is against the sites T&C's and this is turning out to be a great thread
__________________
Geez Louise is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 28-06-2011, 11:45 PM   #17
flappist
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 12,077
Default Re: Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

Well as religion is no longer allowed......

How about jump back in 1000 year intervals and see who and what actually lived in Australia, or for that matter everywhere else.

It would be far too dangerous to learn the truths of almost every historical event anywhere in the world as our society is based on it and I suspect the majority are nothing like what we have been told.
flappist is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2011, 12:26 AM   #18
buggo
[BU66OS]
 
buggo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Central Coast NSW
Posts: 1,719
Default Re: Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

I'd see how the universe/ world was formed, and evolution of, or creation of, man.
Other things like Stonehenge and other mysterious structures. See wether we are dumber, or something came and lent a hand.
And I'd go foward a little bit to see when the last Falcon will role off the line ;P
__________________
FG XR6 Turbo Nitro

BA XR8 Manual
buggo is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2011, 12:33 AM   #19
Maggot
Half an aussie garage!!
 
Maggot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Perth
Posts: 351
Default Re: Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

Swimsuit / Miss universe all the way.
Maggot is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2011, 01:20 AM   #20
351@GT
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
351@GT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Perth
Posts: 755
Default Re: Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

the creation of the 'horn' VN........ *cough*
351@GT is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2011, 01:44 AM   #21
fat4D
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,199
Default Re: Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

i would love to capture better images of the world wars, why? not so there was better details in photos and such more so it was documented in a more graphic and more complete way. with the way the youth is going in 20yrs time they will have no interest in opening a book to learn about it and with out this quality footage they will become bored and the reason many of us live the lives we want today will be forgotten. not to mention drop a nice big stack of very graphic photos on the desk of various world leaders and ask the question ' you sure you want this to happen again?'
__________________
Now Ford-less
But good things are coming in 6 months
fat4D is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2011, 01:58 AM   #22
burnz
VFII SS UTE
 
burnz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Central Coast
Posts: 6,353
Default Re: Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

apparently the moon had crashed into the earth, and earth had a belt much like Jupiter until it reformed..
low orbit moon or the rings of earth, would be worth filming.
__________________
I don't often hear the sound of a screaming LSX.
But when I do, So do the neighbours..
GO SOUTHS
burnz is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2011, 05:44 AM   #23
Jim Goose
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Sun City, North Australis
Posts: 4,274
Default Re: Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

Osama's raid....

Great wall of China...

Your own family's history?
__________________
You've seen it, you've heard it and your still asking questions??

Don't write off the Goose until you see the box going into the hole....
Jim Goose is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2011, 05:54 AM   #24
MAGPIE
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
MAGPIE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: The Shakey Isles
Posts: 3,428
Default Re: Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

Moon landings

Bin Laden death

9/11

Gallipoli

First people to settle in NZ
MAGPIE is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2011, 07:27 AM   #25
gtxb67
moderator ford coupe club
 
gtxb67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 6,640
Default Re: Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

1954 vfl grand final and then 77 bathurst - i don't care about documenting them, i will just watch
gtxb67 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 30-06-2011, 10:50 PM   #26
Riksta
Captain Malcolm Reynolds
 
Riksta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 3,830
Default Re: Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

Some great ideas happening in here

The thing with most things filmed these days is you have to be in the right place at the right time to get the footage. The beauty of this little experiment is you know the right time & place and can go straight there, and get the best possible vantage point.

How about things like the first Aussie made Holden/Ford rolling off the production line?

Or slightly different, Pink Floyd in the studio recording Dark Side of The Moon? Or The Beatles first ever performance?
__________________
Currently: 2014 Mazda6 GT (Daily) and 1999 Mazda MX5 (Fun Car)
Previously: 2001 Ford Escape XLT; 2010 MC Mondeo; 1984 FD LTD; 2001 AU2 Falcon Forte; 2005 LS Focus Zetec; 1988 RE Colt; 1982 RB Colt; 1974 KE20 Corolla
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikked
Riksta likes VN's so much, he has the ashes of a VN in a jar on the mantle piece, a vile of VN engine oil hanging from his neck and a BT1 build plate locked up in a safe, buried under 6ft of concrete.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Day-mow
pretty much what has happened here is i trolled you. and it was fun.
Riksta is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 30-06-2011, 10:59 PM   #27
Geez Louise
Awesome
 
Geez Louise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: In my own little world..Everyone here knows me :)
Posts: 9,401
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: All the behind the scenes things that help the community. 
Default Re: Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

What about the Nazca lines, the demise of the Mayan's and Inca's?

Who made the heads on Easter Island?

You could actually go back and find out who Jack the Ripper was!
__________________
Geez Louise is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 30-06-2011, 11:24 PM   #28
SteveJH
No longer a Uni student..
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Coffs Harbour, NSW
Posts: 2,557
Default Re: Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

Waterloo would be interesting.

The Duke of Wellington and his army versus a resurgent Napoleon and his.
SteveJH is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 30-06-2011, 11:24 PM   #29
SEZ213
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
SEZ213's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Ipswich, Qld
Posts: 1,354
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: Always puts a good amount of thought into his posts and voices his ideas and opinions in a well thought out and constructive manner. I have certainly seen many threads where his input has been constructive to the topic and overall the forum has benfited f 
Default Re: Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

The fall of Rome

The ice age

Would be interesting to find out who Jack the ripper really was Col! Nice idea

The Titanic tragedy would be interesting also (as would the building - just watched a doco on rebuilding the titanic - interesting stuff).

The colonisation of Australia

Sicily in the mob days

First ever book publication

I could really get caught up in this! Great topic Rick!
__________________
-----------------------------------------------------
2012 Focus ST
Tangerine Scream

Continually having a battle of wits with unarmed opponents.

Sez

Photo's by Sez
SEZ213 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 30-06-2011, 11:32 PM   #30
Paxton
Cobblers!
 
Paxton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: The Shire, NSW
Posts: 4,489
Default Re: Hypothetical: What Doco Would You Film?

Chernobyl - same response as above. I'm still fascinated by it.

The landing of Captain Cook, in 1770. I live not very far from where he first set foot on Australia.

The landing of the First Fleet, and the first five years in Australia.
__________________
Ego BFII Ghia
Titanium Silver E53 X5 4.4i
Gunmetal EF XR6. Now retired from active duty.
Roses are red. Violets are blue. OS X rocks. Homage to you.
Paxton is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 02:56 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL