Best Australian built car of all time

[buggerlugs]

http://www.news.com.au/business/cele...-1226249784804
This will open up a can of worms..............XA Falcon

[wrongwaynorris]

Absolute NO BRAINER Bolwell Nagari closely followed by the Illinga AF 2

[Iggypoppin']

Originally Posted by wrongwaynorris

Absolute NO BRAINER Bolwell Nagari closely followed by the Illinga AF 2

what the hell are these cars? I have never heard of them, so really not a no brainer just your own opinion? not to sound harsh either.
My pick would be HQ Holden, XA Falcon in a tie for first with the 48-215 next and the GTHO P3 next after that.

[wrongwaynorris]

Originally Posted by Iggypoppin'

what the hell are these cars? I have never heard of them, so really not a no brainer just your own opinion? not to sound harsh either.
My pick would be HQ Holden, XA Falcon in a tie for first with the 48-215 next and the GTHO P3 next after that.

Google them .

[csv8]

Nah !! the P76!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by csv8

Nah !! the P76!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd have to go with this, but add 'Targa Florio' or 'Force 7'

[Burnout]

Originally Posted by csv8

Nah !! the P76!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by GasOLane

I'd have to go with this, but add 'Targa Florio' or 'Force 7'

Must say, I agree!
Then there's the EH with a 179 on board.......

[nstg8a]

a9x..

[jixel 78]

Originally Posted by nstg8a

a9x..

+1. A white Hatch please.

[b055m4n]

Originally Posted by jixel 78

+1. A white Hatch please.

I know i'm going to cop flak for this , but i recall in about 1980 taking red A9X for a test drive and then realising there was nothing else this good locally built , very good handling and well balanced this car had been engineered to a much better degree than i had antisipated. I never did buy that car but i have always understood what Ford up against after that.

[gtxb67]

Originally Posted by b055m4n

I know i'm going to cop flak for this , but i recall in about 1980 taking red A9X for a test drive and then realising there was nothing else this good locally built , very good handling and well balanced this car had been engineered to a much better degree than i had antisipated. I never did buy that car but i have always understood what Ford up against after that.

obviously the criteria is different to everyone
i have never driven a torana, but having been a passenger in both a 4 door and hatch, there was no comparison between an xb and a torana
the comfort levels are much higher - you can wind down the rear windows in a ford coupe, you don't have to pop them out
overall "to me" the xb is finished much better - of course i am biased and single minded though

[b055m4n]

Originally Posted by gtxb67

obviously the criteria is different to everyone
i have never driven a torana, but having been a passenger in both a 4 door and hatch, there was no comparison between an xb and a torana
the comfort levels are much higher - you can wind down the rear windows in a ford coupe, you don't have to pop them out
overall "to me" the xb is finished much better - of course i am biased and single minded though

Yer i agree the Falcon coupe had better ride and interior was way better quality than Torana.

[BENT_8]

Best built Aussie Car would have to be the AU2/3, even by todays standards it holds up well which no other 12yr old model could come close to over the years.

Best recieved vehicle would be the Holden HQ/Falcon XF and sales figures for the day support it despite its lack of 'win on Sunday sell on Monday' racing pedigree, they smashed the opposition.

Best looking cars...XB Coupe/A9X/AU2-3 XR or T series

[Wretched]

hmmmm i'd say the XRGT

[billy302]

Well I think your all wrong, there's only 1 car that has received international recognition from this country.
The Lightburn Zeta from the 1960's.

It went backwards by stopping the engine, turning the key the other way, putting the engine into reverse. I Kid you not.
Theoretically it went as fast in reverse as it did going forwards.
http://www.warrenmoore.com/2010/11/3...cars/?dur=1083

[turbo4me]

Seems Mr Gover likes his Holden's. Very unbiased

[2011G6E]

I think you'd have to go back a fair way...the first Falcon was just a Yank Falcon with a few mods to suit our conditions, the first Holden was probably "more" Australian being designed here, but still drew on it's Chev roots.

[Ford_The_Win]

Originally Posted by 2011G6E

I think you'd have to go back a fair way...the first Falcon was just a Yank Falcon with a few mods to suit our conditions, the first Holden was probably "more" Australian being designed here, but still drew on it's Chev roots.

I thought the 48-215 or whatever they're called was just a rejected Chev design adapted for Aus? So in that case probably no different to early Falcons/

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by Ford_The_Win

I thought the 48-215 or whatever they're called was just a rejected Chev design adapted for Aus? So in that case probably no different to early Falcons/

It was, just styled differently.

Also, I can't believe Lewis Bandt's coupe utility isn't mentioned. The concept of the ute had a fundamental impact on the automotive scene, more significant than a lot of the cars in that list.

[gtxb67]

Originally Posted by Ford_The_Win

I thought the 48-215 or whatever they're called was just a rejected Chev design adapted for Aus? So in that case probably no different to early Falcons/

might have been. to me it was a 46? chev with shorter guards and used a '42? model oldsmobile engine, that gm thought was not good enough for it's real customers, so off loaded it to australia where the gullible would love it



best australian car - the xa-xb coupe. very beautiful, great interior. the wrap around dash is fantastic. it took until the eb, for a car's interior to impress me more than the xb interior. obviously technology allowed for more creature comforts, but the basic seating comfort and dash was just outstanding

of course, it isn't really australian, because it was a cross between a torino and mustang

[MethodX]

Originally Posted by gtxb67

might have been. to me it was a 46? chev with shorter guards and used a '42? model oldsmobile engine, that gm thought was not good enough for it's real customers, so off loaded it to australia where the gullible would love it



best australian car - the xa-xb coupe. very beautiful, great interior. the wrap around dash is fantastic. it took until the eb, for a car's interior to impress me more than the xb interior. obviously technology allowed for more creature comforts, but the basic seating comfort and dash was just outstanding

of course, it isn't really australian, because it was a cross between a torino and mustang

And it was released a few years too late, it didnt sell well.
But yes, great to look at today.

[new2ford]

The words "best Australian built" infer built and perhaps build-quality rather than design but I think they meant to say designed and built. As there was no build quality worth speaking about till the 1990s (if not later... if at all!) that narrows the field somewhat.

So while the P76 is a candidate on design, on the basis of both factors I think we'd pretty much narrow it down to the Territory, recent Falcons maybe. The build quality is still a bit touch and go though!

Holdens were never in the running I think and mostly haven't been Australian designs anyway.

[Olbucko]

Perhaps the XP Falcon, It was Fords last chance to get it right or pack up and leave Aust.

[janddbone]

Although I hate to admit it... The VE.

[351capri]

Originally Posted by brett.r.johnstone

Although I hate to admit it... The VE.

youre kidding mate! the fg range of falcons are streets ahead.

[Pub247]

Originally Posted by 351capri

youre kidding mate! the fg range of falcons are streets ahead.

Unfortunetly their not sure the FG may look better but over design development and platform of the VE is streets ahead of falcon. Its well known that the omega platform is much better than falcon especially the irs rear

[mik]

Originally Posted by Pub247

Unfortunetly their not sure the FG may look better but over design development and platform of the VE is streets ahead of falcon. Its well known that the omega platform is much better than falcon especially the irs rear

have a look on red teams forum at faults with the ve, streets ahead....... i think your dreaming.

[jpd80]

When we constantly look backwards, we miss seeing what's in front.

I loved the Aussie cars i had in my youth but would I want to own one these days?
Not on your life, these are the good days.

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by Pub247

Its well known that the omega platform is much better than falcon especially the irs rear

lol, wut

Are you serious

[1TUFFUTE]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

lol, wut

Are you serious

yeah what he said...the only thing good about ve went thru hsv doors...the rest is not so good at all....