Only a 21 year sentence for a shooting spree?

[Fab]

Anders Behring, who went on a shooting spree in Norway received only a 21 year sentence and in Thailand you get the death penalty for drugs.
Something wrong with the world!

[Kryton]

Can see this lasting a long time.

[GTPete]

He would want to be looking over his shoulder when he gets out, my guess is his life expectancy will be 21 years and 1 day

[PridenJoy]

I was also surprised by the sentence, if he was in US he would have got Death Row plus a second a-hole in jail

[Keepleft]

Originally Posted by PridenJoy

I was also surprised by the sentence, if he was in US he would have got Death Row plus a second a-hole in jail

The US?? SOME US 'states' have the death penalty, most don't. I support it in extreme clear cut cases, such as this; - disliking/hating the multicultural agenda and program - and its effects on a nation over time, is no reason to go bumping off Norwegian Labor party supporters. You fight the political fight, not take these militant steps.

The court obviously found him sane, if it had not - he could have been kept indefinately. I'd expect they'll keep extending the sentence as needed.

[Jim Goose]

Originally Posted by Keepleft

disliking/hating the multicultural agenda and program - and its effects on a nation over time, is no reason to go bumping off Norwegian Labor party supporters. You fight the political fight, not take these militant steps.

Most of his victims were teenagers , of the 69 people killed on Utoeya island, of them 34 aged between 14 and 17... hardly "labour party supporters".
The island was a holiday camp owned by the Labour Party.

[Jim Goose]

According to the report on the ABC... 21yrs is the MAXIMUM jail term they can dish out. However when time comes for parole, it can be extended.

[TC200six]

Those jails over there better be torturous like a living hell

[ltd_on20s]

Originally Posted by TC200six

Those jails over there better be torturous like a living hell

nope. it's a better living standard then the average here.

[JC]

In Norway, the maximum sentence is 21 years, so that's what he got. Pretty light considering (that's approx 3 months per victim - no real value attached to each life when you look at it that way)

[Fab]

I could go to Norway and kill 1 person and get 21 years, he kills 80+ and gets the same sentence.

[Bossxr8]

But will they ever parole him, or just continually extend his stay.

Does Norway have the death penalty?

[gtxb67]

i doubt he will only spend 21 years behind bars
his sentence is able to be extended and i expect it to go much longer

[JC]

Originally Posted by gtxb67

i doubt he will only spend 21 years behind bars
his sentence is able to be extended and i expect it to go much longer

It will only be extended if he is considered a danger in 21 years time (actually, I believe he only has to serve 10 years minimum).

[gtxb67]

Originally Posted by JC

It will only be extended if he is considered a danger in 21 years time (actually, I believe he only has to serve 10 years minimum).

true, but considering his killing spree, he may always be considered a potential danger for the rest of his life
he didn't just kill 1 person after having a temporary breakdown - it seems he planned to kill many in cold blood
it would be difficult to see many people willing to let him back in society

[b2tf]

Either way he will get whats coming to him. Whether that is by a court judgement or the hand of another, it will happen.

Waste of space.

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by JC

It will only be extended if he is considered a danger in 21 years time (actually, I believe he only has to serve 10 years minimum).

Correct, i actually watched a doco on BBC about this not long ago.
Apparently he was to appeal if he was declared insane, but because he wasnt there wont be an appeal. He was checked twice first time they said he was, next he wasnt.
Without starting an argument, what would said criminal get in OZ if it happened here?

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by DJM83

Correct, i actually watched a doco on BBC about this not long ago.
Apparently he was to appeal if he was declared insane, but because he wasnt there wont be an appeal. He was checked twice first time they said he was, next he wasnt.
Without starting an argument, what would said criminal get in OZ if it happened here?

Hobart Supreme Court Judge William Cox gave Martin Bryant 35 life sentences for the murders plus 1035 years for other crimes, and ordered that he should remain in prison for the "rest of his life."

I seriously doubt Behring will ever taste freedom again.....

[Hell Cat]

norway. the place where beastiality & animal brothels are legal.

[cs123]

Originally Posted by Hell Cat

norway. the place where beastiality & animal brothels are legal.

How do you know this bit of info???

[Hell Cat]

Originally Posted by cs123

How do you know this bit of info???

I was reading articles with regards to animal cruelty in certain industries, then there was a link to how animals are treated in parts of Norway.

[BHDOGS]

its the problem with society do what you want all you will get is jail in civilized society's really makes you think what a life is worth apparently each death was worth 3.6 months excellent news for the familys im sure

[nuthin' fancy]

The Law (even a Norwegian one) is an ***, kill 1 get 77 free.

[Burnout]

The difficulty with this issue is that most of you are unaware of the minimum custodial sentence when receiving a "Life Sentence' here in your own jurisdictions, or those of other countries.
Some of you would spray your beer,.... if you knew....

[FCleader]

I read an article today that said after his 21 years are up a judge will decide on extending his stay by another 5 years, and then another 5 years and so on. So although the original sentence seems light, I don't think he will be getting out after 21 years.

[2011G6E]

It;s always annoyed me...and a lot of other people...that we don't have minimum mandatory sentences for crimes here. Wishy washy judges say it would "take away their discretion" in sentencing...but seeing as how they let serious criminals walk with little real time in jail, I think they need it to be taken out of their hands and they should be made to face a bit of reality. If they want to show "discretion" then sentence the person to the minimum time the mandatory sentence allows.

I'm sure everyone is also sick of sensationalist headlines saying some violent animal received a "sentence of ten years"...but when you read the fine print, he was sentenced to ten years...to serve at least 5 years...with a non-parole period of 3 years...maybe less with good behaviour.
Why not make the headlines say the actual sentence he received...in a case like that example, "he was sentenced to 5 years jail."

[gtxb67]

Originally Posted by 2011G6E

I'm sure everyone is also sick of sensationalist headlines saying some violent animal received a "sentence of ten years"...but when you read the fine print

i do agree with you about this, but most of the people that are sick of the sensationalist headlines are getting fooled by the headlines highlighted in this thread. most people see the 21 years and complain, but the fine print says they can keep adding on 5 years at their discretion if they see him as a potential danger

[ltd_on20s]

Originally Posted by gtxb67

i do agree with you about this, but most of the people that are sick of the sensationalist headlines are getting fooled by the headlines highlighted in this thread. most people see the 21 years and complain, but the fine print says they can keep adding on 5 years at their discretion if they see him as a potential danger

why don't they just behead the guy, save some money, get some closure for all the families involved and let the world get on with it's life?

[BHDOGS]

because keeping people alive and spending millions to house them in finery is apparently much more civilized then spending 2 bucks on some rope which seems odd

[ltd_on20s]

Originally Posted by BHDOGS

because keeping people alive and spending millions to house them in finery is apparently much more civilized then spending 2 bucks on some rope which seems odd

The guy even said he would do it again. get rid of him.