Prelim March 2013 sales figures

Brazen · 03-04-2013, 12:12 PM

TOP SELLING CARS IN MARCH 2013
Mazda3 3785
Toyota Corolla 3510
Toyota HiLux 3125
Hyundai i30 2295
Nissan Navara 2440
Mitsubishi Triton 1995
Toyota Camry 1915
Ford Ranger 1685
Nissan Pulsar 1630
Holden Commodore 1605
*Preliminary sales figures, rounded. Official data released later this week.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/busine...-1226611137074

stevz · 03-04-2013, 12:29 PM

The Australian car buying public disgust me.

Farewell to this once great nation, as it is well and truly going to the dogs.

mr smith · 03-04-2013, 07:11 PM

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The Australian car buying public disgust me.

Farewell to this once great nation, as it is well and truly going to the dogs.

Totally agree, if there was an award for the dumbest country we would be at the top.

Wretched · 03-04-2013, 12:33 PM

keen to see Focus numbers we added 1 to those in March

Good to see Ranger selling strong. Well deserved.
Also good to see Mazda 3 continuing to outsell the Corolla.

BroadyFord · 03-04-2013, 12:39 PM

At least Camry (locally-made) did well.

I'm guessing 700-800 for Falcon and MAYBE 1000 for Territory.

I did not see a new one of either on the road during March (based on number plate sequence).

Brazen · 03-04-2013, 12:43 PM

The Japanese cars are doing well, the Japanese government and central bank are pumping billions into devaluing the Yen, which is making their vehicle exports a lot cheaper.

I think Honda is thinking of sourcing some of their vehicle for Australia from Japan rather than Thailand.

turbodewd · 03-04-2013, 12:48 PM

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The Japanese cars are doing well, the Japanese government and central bank are pumping billions into devaluing the Yen, which is making their vehicle exports a lot cheaper.

I think Honda is thinking of sourcing some of their vehicle for Australia from Japan rather than Thailand.

So Honda should because my brother's Accord Euro has some misaligned door trims on the outside on both sides. The silver bits are clearly 2-3mm off in terms of the horizontal lines flowing from front to rear window. Probably Thai quality control dropping somewhat.

The sales figures represent NSW and Qld buying 4 cylinders a lot more in their fleets i suspect.

Brazen · 03-04-2013, 12:51 PM

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So Honda should because my brother's Accord Euro has some misaligned door trims on the outside on both sides. The silver bits are clearly 2-3mm off in terms of the horizontal lines flowing from front to rear window. Probably Thai quality control dropping somewhat.

The sales figures represent NSW and Qld buying 4 cylinders a lot more in their fleets i suspect.

The utes are the real seismic shift in the market. There is not a single SUV, but there are 4 utes in the top 10. Sadly there is no spill over in sales to the local low-riding utes in the market shift.

Joe5619 · 03-04-2013, 12:53 PM

The pulsar continues to surprise me. It is amazing what deference changing a name can do. Did the Nida ever sell anything close to these numbers? Brand power & what it can do for sales!!!

And has Holden showing us the next Commdore been a very costly mistake by Holden? Will that change Ford's mind about showing 2014 Falcon early???

Smoke Pursuit · 03-04-2013, 12:59 PM

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The pulsar continues to surprise me. It is amazing what deference changing a name can do. Did the Nida ever sell anything close to these numbers? Brand power & what it can do for sales!!!

And has Holden showing us the next Commdore been a very costly mistake by Holden? Will that change Ford's mind about showing 2014 Falcon early???

Nissan would be selling Pulsar to the rental market by the boat load.

If Ford wants to be competitive they need more ranger stock. Perhaps they should have turn broad meadows into a Ranger / Focus line. Supply in today's market is key to success. Toyota prove this over and over. No point in building the best cars of nearly every segment if you can't supply them. I feel sorry for Ford dealers!

Joe5619 · 03-04-2013, 03:09 PM

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Nissan would be selling Pulsar to the rental market by the boat load.

Is that something you know as fact or just a theory?

Smoke Pursuit · 03-04-2013, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe5619

Is that something you know as fact or just a theory?

Fact. Toyota does the same with Corrolla.

Joe5619 · 03-04-2013, 03:17 PM

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Fact. Toyota does the same with Corrolla.

Do you care to share this fact with the rest of us?? Pulsar sold 1630 units in March, how many of them are to rental companies? If you can't answer that question, then you have a theory & not a fact!!

DanielXR8 · 03-04-2013, 03:37 PM

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Fact. Toyota does the same with Corrolla.

Over the Easter period here in Tasmania, I have seen a lot of Ecoboost G6's as rental cars. Looks like one of the rental car companies got a new fleet of them. Should make some good buys on the second hand market.

turbodewd · 03-04-2013, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe5619

The pulsar continues to surprise me. It is amazing what deference changing a name can do. Did the Nida ever sell anything close to these numbers? Brand power & what it can do for sales!!!

And has Holden showing us the next Commdore been a very costly mistake by Holden? Will that change Ford's mind about showing 2014 Falcon early???

I always thought it was a huge mistake to not rename the Focus to the Laser for the AU market.

Brazen · 03-04-2013, 01:35 PM

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I always thought it was a huge mistake to not rename the Focus to the Laser for the AU market.

It would be a top-seller.

Smoke Pursuit · 03-04-2013, 02:45 PM

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It would be a top-seller.

No it wouldn't. They couldn't get enough supply of it to be a top seller.

JPFS1 · 03-04-2013, 01:34 PM

there are/were 500-600 EcoLPi from Dec/Jan that had to be held. Could see Falcon up around 1200-1400. Let's see.

XWGT · 03-04-2013, 01:38 PM

My bad - wrong month.

Ouch Commodore

phillyc · 03-04-2013, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Brazen

TOP SELLING CARS IN MARCH 2013
Mazda3 3785
Toyota Corolla 3510
Toyota HiLux 3125
Hyundai i30 2295
Nissan Navara 2440
Mitsubishi Triton 1995
Toyota Camry 1915
Ford Ranger 1685
Nissan Pulsar 1630
Holden Commodore 1605
*Preliminary sales figures, rounded. Official data released later this week.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/busine...-1226611137074

GMHolden said last month it was a computer / I.T. problem which stopped them reporting all the vehicle sales in February. (Thereby implying a big March) But the problem was since reported as fixed. I called it BS.

So, then what happened to all those Commodore and Cruze sales that were 'carried over' into March 2013? Ouch, between Commodore and Cruze, GMHolden sales are down what 2,000 or more a month for 2 months? Not good for the local producers.

I wish we were making Ranger/Everest here in Australia.

Smoke Pursuit · 03-04-2013, 02:04 PM

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GMHolden said last month it was a computer / I.T. problem which stopped them reporting all the vehicle sales in February. (Thereby implying a big March) But the problem was since reported as fixed. I called it BS.

So, then what happened to all those Commodore and Cruze sales that were 'carried over' into March 2013? Ouch, between Commodore and Cruze, GMHolden sales are down what 2,000 or more a month for 2 months? Not good for the local producers.

I wish we were making Ranger/Everest here in Australia.

VE stock is woeful. Don't know what they are doing but dealers have very little VE stock. Either Holdens building predominantly Cruzeiro stock or VF is in production. Perhaps they are building export stock at the moment as well as media / eval cars.

jpd80 · 03-04-2013, 02:18 PM

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VE stock is woeful. Don't know what they are doing but dealers have very little VE stock. Either Holdens building predominantly Cruzeiro stock or VF is in production. Perhaps they are building export stock at the moment as well as media / eval cars.

I think you'll find that Holden is still making VEs but dealers are loath to stock them because they know everyone is holding off for VF.
This is a terrible time for Holden dealers but IMO, Holden should be offering strong discounts right up to VF to shift the last of the VEs.

phillyc · 03-04-2013, 05:38 PM

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VE stock is woeful. Don't know what they are doing but dealers have very little VE stock. Either Holdens building predominantly Cruzeiro stock or VF is in production. Perhaps they are building export stock at the moment as well as media / eval cars.

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I think you'll find that Holden is still making VEs but dealers are loath to stock them because they know everyone is holding off for VF.
This is a terrible time for Holden dealers but IMO, Holden should be offering strong discounts right up to VF to shift the last of the VEs.

Yeah, it could be a combination of what you both said. But, GMHolden did say themselves that it was an I.T. problem with their vehicle delivery / inventory systems which stopped all the 'sales' in February 2013 from being registered.

I called it BS at the time. I think it is more like the dealers went either individually or collectively, no we're not going to take all of those superseded or about to be superseded VE's and Cruze's. A great mate of mine worked for a large GMH dealership for 5 years until recently and he talked about how the dealership was always being forced to take Commodores despite being hard to shift.

I know it is not uncommon for GMHolden to lie to the media / public. But their 'reasoning' for low February sales have proven to be a farce. Those 'sales' that didn't make it through should have definitely been processed in March.

If they are just being built for export or for launch, then why lie? Why blame I.T.?

It's a downbeat situation for the locals at the moment, I hope it turns around.

Brazen · 03-04-2013, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DASH GT

VE stock is woeful. Don't know what they are doing but dealers have very little VE stock. Either Holdens building predominantly Cruzeiro stock or VF is in production. Perhaps they are building export stock at the moment as well as media / eval cars.

Yeah, you basically cant get an Omega or a V8 at the moment.

Smoke Pursuit · 03-04-2013, 02:41 PM

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Yeah, you basically cant get an Omega or a V8 at the moment.

Which makes me think all the 6.0 allocations are being built as VF's for export. VF goes on sale here in June so production must start soon.

irish2 · 03-04-2013, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Brazen

TOP SELLING CARS IN MARCH 2013
Mazda3 3785
Toyota Corolla 3510
Toyota HiLux 3125
Hyundai i30 2295
Nissan Navara 2440
Mitsubishi Triton 1995
Toyota Camry 1915
Ford Ranger 1685
Nissan Pulsar 1630
Holden Commodore 1605
*Preliminary sales figures, rounded. Official data released later this week.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/busine...-1226611137074

Oh great, even more high riding, and slow tubs on the road.

SumoDog68 · 03-04-2013, 03:02 PM

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Oh great, even more high riding, and slow tubs on the road.

I drive one of those and it doesn't feel particularly slow :-)

irish2 · 03-04-2013, 04:33 PM

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I drive one of those and it doesn't feel particularly slow :-)

You are talking 10+ seconds to 100. People get the urge of torque and "feel" like the are going fast, but in actual fact they are slow and cumbersome. Most don't even get used as a "ute". They are simply the new wang comparison device.

flooded one · 03-04-2013, 06:23 PM

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You are talking 10+ seconds to 100. People get the urge of torque and "feel" like the are going fast, but in actual fact they are slow and cumbersome. Most don't even get used as a "ute". They are simply the new wang comparison device.

this. a lot of "suits with utes" now days. especially duel cab styleside things. its a trend at the moment. while some are used for work. most are traybacks that see work. how many styleside utes do you see now with big 20" rims and not a scratch in the load compartment?? I don't see the point of having a ute if your not going too use it as a ute. I use mine as a ute alot

SumoDog68 · 03-04-2013, 08:37 PM

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You are talking 10+ seconds to 100. People get the urge of torque and "feel" like the are going fast, but in actual fact they are slow and cumbersome. Most don't even get used as a "ute". They are simply the new wang comparison device.

Mine is 8.5 0-100 (Navara 550 ) , I do accept your point and I was of the same opinion until recently. What I found though the ute is extremely practical ( with separate space for dogs , bikes etc) , great towing performance , fuel economy is under 9l per 100 and performance is more than acceptable. In my other (much faster) car I get frustrated and annoyed by slow traffic while driving a Navara is relaxing experience. Not too mention curbs and potholes are non issue and as our recent off road adventure proved it to be good on corrugations and gravel roads. I would drive it much more is I could wrestle the keys off my better half..