So who is going to buy a 2014 Falcon?

[Road_Warrior]

Or Territory for that matter.

So Ford will still be making Falcons and Territories for another 3 and a half years, and if Ford are to be beleived, the 2014 update to both cars will still go ahead.

This means there is plenty of time to save your pennies to get one of the last of them. From what I have heard, the 2014 Falcon is quite a looker, includes a lot of the features many have been longing for, and will include the favourite performance models that have made it such an iconic car for years.

I always intended to buy one prior to yesterday's announcement, and now I am even more determined. The trouble is choosing. It will be either an XR6T manual or XR8 manual.

What's your choice?

[P6LTD351]

I really hope they last until 2016 as I will be able to afford a new car by then. It is my goal to buy a new Falcon just once in my lifetime. It will most definitely be a performance variant. XR6T or, if the budget allows, SC GT in manual.

[FNQracing]

Gotta say I'm tempted. If I buy a new one, it'll see me out to 2036 and beyond if I supplement it with a daily. Life would be weird without a Falcon in the stable.

I'm more concerned with how they'll be screwed together. Lets face it, morale is not going to improve at Broadmeadows.

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by FNQracing

I'm more concerned with how they'll be screwed together. Lets face it, morale is not going to improve at Broadmeadows.

I must say I'm concerned about that as well.

[TMC]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

I must say I'm concerned about that as well.

You know what, if the workers have dignity and pride in their work, I'd imagine they'll try harder and go out with a bang. I hope so anyway.

I can't see myself affording a new Falcon or Territory by then unless something goes really well with me financially. If I had the money, an XR6T would be very nice. Wish the Turbo Territory was still here. That horse bolted long ago. :(

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by TMC

You know what, if the workers have dignity and pride in their work, I'd imagine they'll try harder and go out with a bang. I hope so anyway.

I can't see myself affording a new Falcon or Territory by then unless something goes really well with me financially. If I had the money, an XR6T would be very nice. Wish the Turbo Territory was still here. That horse bolted long ago. :(

I'd like to think so too.

I'm going to cash in the remainder of my long service leave and sell one of my vehicles and probably my bike which I no longer use to fund my little extravagance. I don't care about resale because I'll be keeping it forever.

[P6LTD351]

Originally Posted by FNQracing

Gotta say I'm tempted. If I buy a new one, it'll see me out to 2036 and beyond if I supplement it with a daily. Life would be weird without a Falcon in the stable.

I'm more concerned with how they'll be screwed together. Lets face it, morale is not going to improve at Broadmeadows.

I'm not going to lie, that thought did cross my mind but...

I give more credit and respect to the workers than that. It comes down to pride. I trust that they will work with pride until the very end, like they have done previously.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by FNQracing

Gotta say I'm tempted. If I buy a new one, it'll see me out to 2036 and beyond if I supplement it with a daily. Life would be weird without a Falcon in the stable.

I'm more concerned with how they'll be screwed together. Lets face it, morale is not going to improve at Broadmeadows.

Morale has been in the gutter for years now, so nothing will change, and if its anything like 2007 when they announced the engine plant closure Ford will put quality bonus's in place so that employees get extra cash if quality targets are met. So there should be no concerns.


I'd love to buy an XR8 if they bring it back, or maybe an XR6 Turbo if they don't, but I must say i've been moved by Mustangs lately after I got a subscription to Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords magazine, and seeing how easy they have it buying upgrades, and just how quick they are with minor mods. I'm tempted.

[chris01]

Originally Posted by FNQracing

Gotta say I'm tempted. If I buy a new one, it'll see me out to 2036 and beyond if I supplement it with a daily. Life would be weird without a Falcon in the stable.

I'm more concerned with how they'll be screwed together. Lets face it, morale is not going to improve at Broadmeadows.

hmmm announce closing 3 and one half years before u do...why not 7 weeks like Mitsubishi did? I'm not sure it's all over for the Falcon...

[MoeFord]

My lease ends december 25th 2015 on my current family car so getting a new falcon is on the cards. Main reason I didn't by a falcon this time around is due to fords terrible after sales service I have experienced so I can only imagine it to get worse after 2016.

[TMC]

Originally Posted by MoeFord

My lease ends december 25th 2015 on my current family car so getting a new falcon is on the cards. Main reason I didn't by a falcon this time around is due to fords terrible after sales service I have experienced so I can only imagine it to get worse after 2016.

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

I must say I'm concerned about that as well.

I think bad after sales service has contributed to falling sales of the Falcon more than anything. I think everybody who has had dealings with a Ford dealer have shocking stories of appalling service. That's got to change if they want to move forward .

[69XWGT]

Originally Posted by TMC

I think bad after sales service has contributed to falling sales of the Falcon more than anything. I think everybody who has had dealings with a Ford dealer have shocking stories of appalling service. That's got to change if they want to move forward .

The Ford dealers have screwed the pooch that's for sure.

A heap of new models aren't going to fix that

[Agile]

Originally Posted by TMC

I think bad after sales service has contributed to falling sales of the Falcon more than anything. I think everybody who has had dealings with a Ford dealer have shocking stories of appalling service. That's got to change if they want to move forward .

Absolutely correct. I have tried two Ford dealerships for servicing and ALWAYS got dicked around. Bloody terrible service. The biggest problem is the fact that it takes them all day to change the oil and filter and then charge like a wounded bull for the pleaser of having kept my car off the road for the whole day. I do it myself now and haven't had a problem.
Having said that I will be in the market for a new Territory next year It will depend on how the revised model looks. Am not bothered about getting the last of a model, re resale value. To my way of thinking, no cars hold their value after 18 months, 2 years.
Except my old P6. Worth more than when it was brand new

[superfly]

Originally Posted by Agile

Absolutely correct. I have tried two Ford dealerships for servicing and ALWAYS got dicked around. Bloody terrible service. The biggest problem is the fact that it takes them all day to change the oil and filter and then charge like a wounded bull for the pleaser of having kept my car off the road for the whole day. I do it myself now and haven't had a problem.
Having said that I will be in the market for a new Territory next year It will depend on how the revised model looks. Am not bothered about getting the last of a model, re resale value. To my way of thinking, no cars hold their value after 18 months, 2 years.
Except my old P6. Worth more than when it was brand new

For every car manufacturer, there's a dealership that stuffs its customers around. Swap dealerships when you experience this. Try a third one in your case. If you get still stuffed around, maybe there's a different issue to the dealership?

I had issues with certain Subaru dealerships so I just switched to another one.

But my local Ford dealership has been nothing but fantastic with all my concerns. And I didn't even buy the car from them.

To answer the OP. The missus car needs to be upgraded before mine so no new falcon for us. I'm sure she'll want another WRX or STi.

But I can't wait to see the new one!

[SmokinXR50]

Hi,
I am due to change cars by November this year. Up until the announcement I was set to buy either a MKII FPV or extend the lease a short while and pick up a 2014 FPV ( once I knew what the 2014 Falcon looked like and its specs).

After the announcement I am not sure. Deep down I still want an FPV, I have had my heart set on one since buying my XR50T, this time I will be keeping my next car for 5 years and my biggest concern will be resale.

I have had a blast with my XR50T. I have owned many cars but the XR50T still puts a huge smile on my face every time I thump the gas pedal, it's a feeling I don't want to lose. The car has been fantastically reliable to boot, just can't fault it in that regard.

Cheers,

Chris

[BennyH]

The XR8 is to return in 2014? Can anyone point me to some details?

[Kometes]

I will, as long as it doesn't get that giant grille all the new Ford's seem to be sporting.

Manual GTP, just not sure if it'll be FG Mk2 or FH (FG Mk3?) for reasons above.

[FNQracing]

I think most dealers just got used to riding on the fleets back, so to speak. They never really had to work terribly hard for their customers. I too think the poor dealer channel plays a big part in Fords problems.

[janddbone]

I have yet to buy a new car in my life... Will be doing my best to get one a Falcon as that was always the plan.

[Venomous1]

will get the last of the fpv's 2015.

[Guzz226]

Originally Posted by Venomous1

will get the last of the fpv's 2015.

My plan as well - just hoping FPV GT continue on with the 2014 upgrade - have not heard anything definitive one way or the other on this!

[FalconXV]

I will for sure, it will be my first new Falcon and a proud achievement.

[smoo]

Hoping they bring back the Super Pursuit, or a GT equalivent ute, or just more options to tick on the GS. I'll be putting down a deposit regardless, even if I have to put it on the mortgage.

[rdmr]

I work at Ford as some of you know. The employees that remain there are veterans, all of them. The downbalances over the years got rid of the newbies and the rubbish, and even good ones too.
Production quality will remain high, very high. We love Ford Australia and Falcon. Love okay.
It upper management and dearborn that gave up on broadies and geelong, not the workers!
So quality and pride will still remain, and we will build until the lights go out.

[TMC]

Originally Posted by rdmr

I work at Ford as some of you know. The employees that remain there are veterans, all of them. The downbalances over the years got rid of the newbies and the rubbish, and even good ones too.
Production quality will remain high, very high. We love Ford Australia and Falcon. Love okay.
It upper management and dearborn that gave up on broadies and geelong, not the workers!
So quality and pride will still remain, and we will build until the lights go out.

Good on ya mate.

[Nasco]

Originally Posted by TMC

Good on ya mate.

well said good to hear mate

[Eaturbo]

Originally Posted by rdmr

I work at Ford as some of you know. The employees that remain there are veterans, all of them. The downbalances over the years got rid of the newbies and the rubbish, and even good ones too.
Production quality will remain high, very high. We love Ford Australia and Falcon. Love okay.
It upper management and dearborn that gave up on broadies and geelong, not the workers!
So quality and pride will still remain, and we will build until the lights go out.

Good on you and your co workers, And as you guys would know the auto industry is doing it tuff and has been since the 2008 GFC. All manufacturers are changing there outlook and the model line ups and cutting costs to remain viable. The Falcon and Commodore are just stuck in a bad position when it comes to the overall scheme of things especially when you look at buyers trends towards smaller cars. It doesnt matter how fuel efficent a Falcon is because a small car will always be better due to size and weight. At least you guys can say you were part of one of the most special cars in history. The guys that build the Falcon with pride could not if they tried build the car poorly, they dont have it in them. Theres too much skill involved in building them and every car is like an extension of them and a record of there skill. Keep up the good work guys because the cars you build in the next few years have to last for the rest of time.

[RockyDB]

Originally Posted by Eaturbo

Good on you and your co workers, And as you guys would know the auto industry is doing it tuff and has been since the 2008 GFC. All manufacturers are changing there outlook and the model line ups and cutting costs to remain viable. The Falcon and Commodore are just stuck in a bad position when it comes to the overall scheme of things especially when you look at buyers trends towards smaller cars. It doesnt matter how fuel efficent a Falcon is because a small car will always be better due to size and weight. At least you guys can say you were part of one of the most special cars in history. The guys that build the Falcon with pride could not if they tried build the car poorly, they dont have it in them. Theres too much skill involved in building them and every car is like an extension of them and a record of there skill. Keep up the good work guys because the cars you build in the next few years have to last for the rest of time.

I think I'm doing this right.....I hope so. My first post on the forum! Totally agree Eaturbo, and a drive in a very special Ford today was absolute proof. Cheers.

[ltd]

Originally Posted by rdmr

I work at Ford as some of you know. The employees that remain there are veterans, all of them. The downbalances over the years got rid of the newbies and the rubbish, and even good ones too.
Production quality will remain high, very high. We love Ford Australia and Falcon. Love okay.
It upper management and dearborn that gave up on broadies and geelong, not the workers!
So quality and pride will still remain, and we will build until the lights go out.

Mate I have to say I was moved by your post as it is what I've always suspected, Fords are built by people who honestly try to make each car as good as possible to transcend the metal they are into a good mate. I've loved all my Fords for this reason, as they have personality and have never let me down.
I hope to God that come 2016 the dollar is down to 60 cents and there is a strong business case to keep Ford Australia going.
Looking at the support on these forums and buyers intending to buy the 2014 model falcon and terry we can hope these sales materialise and ford australia turns a profit. Hopefully an Abbott government will force government fleets to start buying Australian again and from early comments he's made, he does actually believe in the need to keep auto manufacturing here.

If however all this comes to pass I'd personally like to thank you and your fellow workers dedication and care to what you build, as the saying goes; Love your work.
BTW, the G6E-T is one hell of a lot of car for the money, and one of the most fun fords I've owned. Thanks again mate.

[delete94]

Originally Posted by rdmr

I work at Ford as some of you know. The employees that remain there are veterans, all of them. The downbalances over the years got rid of the newbies and the rubbish, and even good ones too.
Production quality will remain high, very high. We love Ford Australia and Falcon. Love okay.
It upper management and dearborn that gave up on broadies and geelong, not the workers!
So quality and pride will still remain, and we will build until the lights go out.

I have to say mate, I feel for you guys and I'm glad to see you're gonna keep the faith until the end. I've got a G6ET that, who knows, maybe you helped to screw together, and if you did, then I say thanks, because it is, without a doubt, an absolutely fantastic car. It's 3 years old and I haven't had a problem with it. I've always had Falcons, my Dad always had Falcons and my Grandad always had Fords (before the Falcon existed), so it's really hard to imagine a future without the Falcon.

It never ceases to amaze me, the people who comment about these cars being poor in value and features. For the performance you get, the size of the car and the features, I reckon they represent outstanding value. But even more than that, they're honest cars that are built for this country and their reliability and durability are outstanding, and I think that's something that's often overlooked and something that's hard to put a price on. I must admit, I'm probably the worst kind of customer for Ford, cause I keep my cars for the long term (10 years +), but I couldn't even begin to imagine buying an imported car to keep for the long haul.