Ford territory model replacement....

[RozRox]

Half the year of 2016 has almost gone by, yet there is no official word from Ford Australia about the replacement model for the its outgoing model- The Territory....are we still getting the Edge (bigger 7seat version)as a rebadged Territory or the Explorer instead??? Really curious to hear about this. There is also an article in caradvice discussing about the same.....has anyone here heard anything else new or different? If so plz share....

[RANGEREST]

Apparently (in another thread in the Everest section) there was a 2wd Everest announced,
knock off 6k for 2wd as per Ranger and it's still an expensive replacement for the Territory at around 56k

• SZ Territory MKII TS RWD Diesel Automatic transmission. Driveaway price includes EOFY bonus of $1000 $45,490 drive away*
• Everest Trend Automatic transmission. Driveaway price includes EOFY bonus of $1000 $61,990 drive away*

[Trump]

A monocoque bodied SUV will replace the Territory, what that model is, who knows...

[Raptor]

It'll be the Edge but the idiots in charge of marketing here will rename it the Territory, just to devalue what the Territory was.

Like who'll notice, it's not like we have the internet and have the whole global Ford product list at our finger tips.

One Ford, what a joke.

[NX74205]

Originally Posted by Raptor

It'll be the Edge but the idiots in charge of marketing here will rename it the Territory, just to devalue what the Territory was.

They can't call it Edge here due to an existing trade mark owned by Toyota.

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by Raptor

It'll be the Edge but the idiots in charge of marketing here will rename it the Territory, just to devalue what the Territory was.

Like who'll notice, it's not like we have the internet and have the whole global Ford product list at our finger tips.

One Ford, what a joke.

Edge actually not a bad unit. The space is there.

Haha in terms of renaming the edge....just look at what holden did by rebadging daewoo's.

[Raptor]

Originally Posted by vztrt

Edge actually not a bad unit. The space is there.
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I don't mind the Edge and I do think it's the right car for the market now they also have the larger Everest.

But the Edge is not a Territory the same way a Mondeo or Taurus is not a Falcon.

The Territory name plate should also be retired IMHO to allow it to be remembered as Australia's only home grown crossover (SUV), and a great one at that.


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[vztrt]

Originally Posted by Raptor

I don't mind the Edge and I do think it's the right car for the market now they also have the larger Everest.

But the Edge is not a Territory the same way a Mondeo or Taurus is not a Falcon.

The Territory name plate should also be retired IMHO to allow it to be remembered as Australia's only home grown crossover (SUV), and a great one at that.


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I'd say the terri nameplate continues cause its not a badge thats in the toilet....like the Falcon nameplate is.

I wouldn't say everest is bigger. Internally the everest isnt all that special. Terri is an awesome softroader suv.....funny enough the edge is a worthy replacement if they get the model mix right and at least have one model with a decent engine driveline combo.

[Kieron]

Originally Posted by vztrt

I'd say the terri nameplate continues cause its not a badge thats in the toilet....like the Falcon nameplate is.

I wouldn't say everest is bigger. Internally the everest isnt all that special. Terri is an awesome softroader suv.....funny enough the edge is a worthy replacement if they get the model mix right and at least have one model with a decent engine driveline combo.

Fully agree mate. I'd suggest The average Territory buyer doesn't care about Aussie heritage, Territory is an established decent selling nameplate and it but be silly of Ford to dump the name. The Edge is a perfect vehicle to take on the Territory name and give a fresh, new image to the ageing Terry we have now.

[Raptor]

Originally Posted by vztrt

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I wouldn't say everest is bigger...

Good point about the size. I came to the same conclusion when I parked next to one. I prefer the decade earlier styling of my Territory as well.

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by vztrt

I'd say the terri nameplate continues cause its not a badge thats in the toilet....like the Falcon nameplate is.

I wouldn't say everest is bigger. Internally the everest isnt all that special. Terri is an awesome softroader suv.....funny enough the edge is a worthy replacement if they get the model mix right and at least have one model with a decent engine driveline combo.

Spot on, they need to give us the MOST powerful versions and all options available to US/N.A. and UK buyers, eg. 2.7V6 Ecoboost @ 234kW in the Edge Sport and the UK spec 2.0L TDCi @156kW/450Nm.

It would be interesting to see if the 7-seater China-only version could be built in Canada for RHD markets if interest was great enough from those RHD countries.

On the Everest, how come we cannot get the "cashmere" colour that was in all the pre-release press material, it gives the interior a huge lift, which is where I find the cashmere interior of our SZ1 Territory so much nicer.

EDIT: the lighter interior is available in Thai models looking at their website....and it's sooo much nicer.
http://www.ford.co.th/en/suvs/all-ne...module-gallery

[malazn mafia]

Originally Posted by vztrt

I'd say the terri nameplate continues cause its not a badge thats in the toilet....like the Falcon nameplate is.

I wouldn't say everest is bigger. Internally the everest isnt all that special. Terri is an awesome softroader suv.....funny enough the edge is a worthy replacement if they get the model mix right and at least have one model with a decent engine driveline combo.

I thought Ford's badge is in the toilet. They could stick a Ford badge on a BMW 5 series and it would become sales flop. Holden on the other hand could stick their badge on a garbage Daewoo, Great Wall, Mahindra or Daihatsu and it would still sell in decent numbers.

[Raptor]

Just another reason to hate Toyota




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[NX74205]

I'm guessing that part of the reason for the delayed announcement is that Ford's lawyers are negotiating with Toyota to obtain a licence to use the trade mark, or to acquire the trade mark from Toyota.

If that falls through, Ford have the option of either initiating an application to IP Australia to remove Toyota's trade mark for non-use, or re-name the car. It's much easier to do the latter.

[Brazen]

Originally Posted by NX74205

I'm guessing that part of the reason for the delayed announcement is that Ford's lawyers are negotiating with Toyota to obtain a licence to use the trade mark, or to acquire the trade mark from Toyota.

If that falls through, Ford have the option of either initiating an application to IP Australia to remove Toyota's trade mark for non-use, or re-name the car. It's much easier to do the latter.

Lol good luck getting Toyota to give Ford a favour when Ford have been slamming them in their TV ads and every Ford product launch.

Oh well Ford kind of deserve it after they refused Tesla using the name Model E due to the name of the Ford E series cargo vans.

They will probably be better off anyway Edge is a crap name for a car like Cruze.

[malazn mafia]

Originally Posted by Brazen

Lol good luck getting Toyota to give Ford a favour when Ford have been slamming them in their TV ads and every Ford product launch.

Oh well Ford kind of deserve it after they refused Tesla using the name Model E due to the name of the Ford E series cargo vans.

They will probably be better off anyway Edge is a crap name for a car like Cruze.

Who ever thought of Kuga as a car name? A misspelled version of Ford Cougar?

[Express]

Ford territory model replacement....leave the Edge for the mums

[csv8]

Originally Posted by malazn mafia

Who ever thought of Kuga as a car name? A misspelled version of Ford Cougar?

Kuga in America is still called Escape...http://www.ford.com/suvs/escape/?gnav=header-suvs

[Sprintey]

Originally Posted by malazn mafia

Who ever thought of Kuga as a car name? A misspelled version of Ford Cougar?

They should retire the Territory name, and call the replacement the "Manther". That way Ford can have the 'Kuga' and "Manther" and appeal to the 40 something young kid parents who might occasionally dream of a younger model...

[Windsor220]

There would be a delayed announcement because to the average buyer Territory is continuing on as normal. Most people wouldn't be aware that Territory is not being built here anymore and will think the new Edge/Territory is just the next update. They will advertise it closer to release.

[Raptor]

And another

[Brazen]

If you want to get a perspective of size. Here is the Territory body grafted on the back of a Everest mule.

Remember any difference in width you see is doubled as there is the same amount on the other side of the car too.

[bernbo]

At our local dealership they had all for suv together in a line so it was easy to jump between them all. Everest is easily taller and longer and definitely narrower than the terry. Only reasons i would go the everest is if I needed 4wd, bigger towing or a smidge more 3rd leg room. If it's a regular aussie family with two kids running around town with the odd camping trip to a national park the territory craps all over the everest as far as interior space and packaging. Factor in better driving manners means we are losing a truly great aussie car built by aussies. I can't beleive the earlier post that said the terry was underpowered. Never heard that before, unless they were taking about the diesel.

[Sprintey]

Originally Posted by bernbo

At our local dealership they had all for suv together in a line so it was easy to jump between them all. Everest is easily taller and longer and definitely narrower than the terry. Only reasons i would go the everest is if I needed 4wd, bigger towing or a smidge more 3rd leg room. If it's a regular aussie family with two kids running around town with the odd camping trip to a national park the territory craps all over the everest as far as interior space and packaging. Factor in better driving manners means we are losing a truly great aussie car built by aussies. I can't beleive the earlier post that said the terry was underpowered. Never heard that before, unless they were taking about the diesel.

Completely agree. Loss of petrol AWD with the SZ model was a blow to it. And prefer the original styling too, like Raptor said.

Why not import Ford Edge, Flex, Explorer and Expedition and really make a North American assault on the SUV class?

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by Sprintey

Completely agree. Loss of petrol AWD with the SZ model was a blow to it. And prefer the original styling too, like Raptor said.

Why not import Ford Edge, Flex, Explorer and Expedition and really make a North American assault on the SUV class?

Because in America, the "S" stands for "Spacious" and the "U" stands for "Urban."

We once almost bought a Honda MDX. Beautiful SUV, we ere going to trade up the family bus from The Odyssey...
Until we test drove one.

I could not figure out how HONDA could make such a ponderous land-barge, until I found out they were made in NA for the US market.
Not surprisingly Honda dropped it shortly thereafter.

Also, Aussie dollar is once again in the crapper.

More likely we'll get whatever they can make cheap in Thailand or SA.

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

Because in America, the "S" stands for "Spacious" and the "U" stands for "Urban."
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Since when? Its been sports utility vehicle from day dot. The utility word is key as they were developed to bypass emmission laws for passenger cars that were not required for comercial cars.

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by vztrt

Since when? Its been sports utility vehicle from day dot. The utility word is key as they were developed to bypass emmission laws for passenger cars that were not required for comercial cars.

[Brazen]

Yeah the ladder chassis also eats up a lot of interior height in the Everest but all body on frame cars are like that.

[elysian50]

Originally Posted by Brazen

Yeah the ladder chassis also eats up a lot of interior height in the Everest but all body on frame cars are like that.

The ladder chassis is also rigid and does nothing for the occupant safety of a car.

[Brazen]

They should import the Explorer in 7 seat form as well as the Edge. The market is becoming so that the SUV is the default body style