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Old 17-01-2006, 07:38 PM   #1
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Just thought people might be interested to know that I heard from a reliable source that BP Ultimate & Mobil Synergy are the same fuel, they come from the same place, same foundry whatever you want to call it, but the same fuel gets delivered to different places & labled different names. :voldar02:
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Old 17-01-2006, 07:42 PM   #2
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Yes it is it's refined at Mobil but then BP put there own additives in the fuel
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Old 17-01-2006, 07:59 PM   #3
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Old 17-01-2006, 08:02 PM   #4
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Yes it is it's refined at Mobil but then BP put there own additives in the fuel
Dont think so Chris I am sure they are the same
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Old 17-01-2006, 08:06 PM   #5
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Dont think so Chris I am sure they are the same
Well l deliver to Mobil refinery in Altona and that what they told me
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Old 18-01-2006, 08:04 AM   #6
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TUFGPA, it may be worth doing a search before posting a thread. This issue has been done to death. I don’t know how many times this has this been discussed over the last three or so years.
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Chris, it’s the same stuff. They store it at the Spotswood site and everyone, including contractors, load out of the same gantry with the same product arm.
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Depends who you talk to. I wouldn’t believe half of the things they say there. After all, it is Mobil.
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Old 18-01-2006, 09:33 PM   #7
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This information came from a truck driver from Mobil, thats all I know.
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Old 17-01-2006, 08:10 PM   #8
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You probably no more then me about it then Chris
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Old 17-01-2006, 08:26 PM   #9
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In the west BP refine all the fuel & everyone else buys from them.
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Old 17-01-2006, 08:26 PM   #10
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Ok so is this a good thing or bad thing.?
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Old 18-01-2006, 02:52 AM   #11
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Ok so is this a good thing or bad thing.?
Well... I tend to find Mobil Synergy 6000 runs my car best... and my uncle's just switched running his Ferrari 355 from Optimax to Synergy 8000, and says it runs nicer. So more good petrol around at different servo's? Good thing I'd say...
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Old 17-01-2006, 08:29 PM   #12
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Well its a good thing if you buy BP, because my freind that worked at BP here in Perth said that they did everything right when refining it, but when it gets sold off to other companys then you have know idea what they add to it.
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Old 18-01-2006, 06:59 AM   #13
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Well after doing some dyno testing I have always said that mobil 8000 and bp98 work the best in my application.
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Interesting comments. In my little roadster (2 litre fairly hi compression motor) I have tried all brands of the higher octane fuels. From my experience, optimax is crap, synergy is OK but not as good as BP98. AVGAS is the bees knees, so that is what I use.
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Well after doing some dyno testing I have always said that mobil 8000 and bp98 work the best in my application.
I've noticed the same also. Even with klms per tank, I noticed them to be better than other brands.
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What I'm curious about is why BP Ultimate had supply problems in Melbourne going back a few weeks, whilst Mobil Synergy 8000 was supplied without issue - seems a bit odd if they're the same fuel supplied from the same place.
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What I'm curious about is why BP Ultimate had supply problems in Melbourne going back a few weeks, whilst Mobil Synergy 8000 was supplied without issue - seems a bit odd if they're the same fuel supplied from the same place.
Good point.

BP98 run 10 better in my car than Mobil 8000 stuff.
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What I'm curious about is why BP Ultimate had supply problems in Melbourne going back a few weeks, whilst Mobil Synergy 8000 was supplied without issue - seems a bit odd if they're the same fuel supplied from the same place.
maybe a problem with the additives that BP put into the fuel..
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What I'm curious about is why BP Ultimate had supply problems in Melbourne going back a few weeks, whilst Mobil Synergy 8000 was supplied without issue - seems a bit odd if they're the same fuel supplied from the same place.
It might be the same fuel from the same place, however, it’s sold on an allocation basis. Because Mobil run the place they will always make sure they have enough for themselves before they sell any to other people. Mobil’s’ despatch allocation is actually run in New Zealand so that also adds further delays to outside interests.
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maybe a problem with the additives that BP put into the fuel..
BP do not put any additives in, like I said in the last post, it’s the same stuff. :togo:
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Surely mobil must know that their petrol is not as good and correct the problem.I mean in the short time that we have been discussing this we have worked out which brand we would rather buy.
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Hi Danny, if anyone would know it would be you... is the same stuff in every state or just Melbourne?
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Hi Danny, if anyone would know it would be you... is the same stuff in every state or just Melbourne?
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