P Plater busted near 200km/h

AC · 12-06-2006, 08:28 PM

From SMH.com.au

Umm, Do you realise you were speeding son ?

dansedgli · 12-06-2006, 08:29 PM

How ****ed off would you be not to reach the 200!! 3kms under

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deesun · 13-06-2006, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dansedgli

How ****ed off would you be not to reach the 200!! 3kms under

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I'll bet his speedo reads about 215 and he will be saying to his mates the radar gun was not working properly but his VL speedo was absolutly right. Fuwwy sik.

Scott · 12-06-2006, 08:33 PM

Is that a new record for a Commodore? I think maybe the radar was playing up.

ClevlndStemer · 12-06-2006, 08:37 PM

and guess what, he'll get off with a smack on the wrist...
what would have happened if a tyre burst or hit another car? what a smacktard. He won't learn either.

Keepleft · 13-06-2006, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevlndStemer

and guess what, he'll get off with a smack on the wrist...
what would have happened if a tyre burst or hit another car? what a smacktard. He won't learn either.

What if what if????

The M4 is a motorway, 'a road designed for high speed travel' - it's not a residential or business area.

What matters to me (most) is the 'manner' of his driving.

How the hell do you think those 'dumb' Europeeeaaans manage to drive at much faster speeds daily without their tyres exploding or cars bursting into flames??

Back to the dark ages with you.

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Go Ghia wrote:
Thinking i was invincible, i kept driving. Sure enough, i got caught drag racing doing 177km/h in a 70 zone. Yeah, STUPID!!!!!

THAT is more stupid than someone "driving at speed" on a road designed for speed. One of the road categories has much greater potential for disaster.

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John McMaster wrote:
I have overtaken coppers in the N.T. at 160-180 and we've waved to each other.

It is in the 'manner' that matters - drive like a careless untidy ******** and you be so treated in NT.

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Kyro 2 wrote:
apparently they can still pull you over if you're driving a bit fast in the NT.. like 150km/h... is ok but anything beyond that and they would pull you up, or if cars ahead are doing 130 and you're doing 150 etc.. i don't think they like that.

150km/h?? IF ANY Australian state police tell me the (//) sign means 150km/h maximum I'll show you a high court case to say it does not. That said, speed derestriction does NOT allow idiot speeds, but is meant to allow a safe speed for the prevailing conditions. It is NOT a speed limit sign.

Darren - where was the particular photo taken?

ClevlndStemer · 14-06-2006, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Keepleft

What if what if????

The M4 is a motorway, 'a road designed for high speed travel' - it's not a residential or business area.

What matters to me (most) is the 'manner' of his driving.

How the hell do you think those 'dumb' Europeeeaaans manage to drive at much faster speeds daily without their tyres exploding or cars bursting into flames??

Back to the dark ages with you.

The road may be designed for high speed travel but there are way too many other variables for high speed travel. At 200km/h on a road with a posted speed limit of 110, and others travelling at the 110, high speed is probably not the smartest thing to do. Constant lane changing by other motorists (not always looking) can cause a big problem to the person who is travelling at the high speed. I am not saying it will happen but it can.

As for the tyre bursting just another variable. The Monash FWY in Melb is apparently also designed for high speed as well. However many drivers are not. One eventful afternoon travelling home from work on the "highspeed" road we encountered the aftermath of a tyre bursting on a car travelling at 100. The car flipped, rolled and the air ambulance was called to transport the driver and the infant passenger to hospital. The Euro drivers may be able to drive at high speed (when it isn't peak hour traffic, see Fifth gear if you don't know what I mean), but the accidents happen not many survive.

Don't say it won't happen cause on the road anything can happen and most likely will happen.

As for the dark ages comment, why not crawl back into that hole you came from, be a better for all of us if you did!! :thebirds:

Keepleft · 14-06-2006, 09:51 AM

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ClevlndStemer wrote: The road may be designed for high speed travel but there are way too many other variables for high speed travel.

Whist there are variables that can impede or otherwise restrict 'high-speeds', often there are not, since variables are just that - variable.

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At 200km/h on a road with a posted speed limit of 110, and others travelling at the 110, high speed is probably not the smartest thing to do.

Certainly not the legal thing to do.

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Constant lane changing by other motorists (not always looking) can cause a big problem to the person who is travelling at the high speed. I am not saying it will happen but it can.

Unneccessary or inappropriate lane changes are an issue with the Australian freeway experience. That said, in Europe the refined autobahn driver simply does not 'floor it' and keep it floored at top speed, OR near top speed past slower traffic, rather 'speed' is used between lengths of vehicles, and that is the trick. "Smooth and tidy' is the goal.

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As for the tyre bursting just - another variable.

Most crashes are multifactorial in nature.

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The Monash FWY in Melb is apparently also designed for high speed as well. However many drivers are not.

I agree, I've never seen a driver capable of exceeding 100km/h or anywhere near it, I can't even run faster than I guess 18km/h??

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One eventful afternoon travelling home from work on the "high speed" road we encountered the aftermath of a tyre bursting on a car travelling at 100. The car flipped, rolled and the air ambulance was called to transport the driver and the infant passenger to hospital.

Once upon a time (amongst very many actually) I happened on another crash on a different high-speed road, this one involved a myriad of factors, ranging from low tyre pressures to bald tread, from driver inattention to outright driver negligence, including momentary distraction, excessive speed, heavy fog and slippery conditions.

The result was an 83 car pile-up on the F6 back in 1987. Those damned variables again. . . better not go faster than 20km/h, but wait - that meteor!!

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The Euro drivers may be able to drive at high speed (when it isn't peak hour traffic, see Fifth gear if you don't know what I mean),

Yes, Iv'e yet to see ANY 'Euro' or German driver drive at what we'ddescribe as high-speed in peak hour traffic.

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but the accidents happen not many survive.

Actually, the majority of road crashed work out okay, thankfully.

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Don't say it won't happen cause on the road anything can happen and most likely will happen.

I did not say it won't happen. "It" can and does, I attend them sometimes. Hell, my oldest brother is a paramedic - today he lectures at the Goulburn NSW Police Academy on such related matter.

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As for the dark ages comment, why not crawl back into that hole you came from, be a better for all of us if you did!!

Better for *you* at most, you'd then be free to broadcast more hysteria and fear:-)

A link for you: Monash freeway, I see several issues with this scene which is partly owing a too low a speed allowance.

http://mrv.ozroads.com.au/highway1/monash.htm

4Vman · 14-06-2006, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Keepleft

A link for you: Monash freeway, I see several issues with this scene which is partly owing a too low a speed allowance.

http://mrv.ozroads.com.au/highway1/monash.htm

My concept of an efficient "Freeway" would mean 4 lanes minimum, 2 left lanes for slow or exit/enter merging traffic, centre for "speed limit" traffic and right lane for over taking etc.
A perfect example of a 100kph road that's "dangerous" imo most of the time is the western ring road in vic, its 3 lane in places but mostly 2 lane, is usually heavily congested with allot of trucks that are constantly exiting and entering from the myriad of off/on ramps, and speeds that vary by upto 30kph with very little means too maintain 100kph safely due to constant lane changes caused but significantly slower traffic or a wide "speed differential". It isnt any wonder there are so many accidents on that road.

**Falcon Coupe** · 14-06-2006, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Keepleft

A link for you: Monash freeway, I see several issues with this scene which is partly owing a too low a speed allowance.

http://mrv.ozroads.com.au/highway1/monash.htm

I travel this road often, the main problems with it's users are :

1. They do NOT keep left !

2. Many drivers think it's ok to go down the on ramp and merge at 10 to 20 klm below the speed limit, this causes another 10 or so cars behind them to bank up which ends in a very slow and dangerous freight train pulling into high speed traffic, when will they learn to match speed with the oncoming traffic to merge safely.
If i can do it in a 4 cylinder diesel with a heavy trailer a single car has no excuse.

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kyro_02 · 14-06-2006, 10:39 AM

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150km/h?? IF ANY Australian state police tell me the (//) sign means 150km/h maximum I'll show you a high court case to say it does not. That said, speed derestriction does NOT allow idiot speeds, but is meant to allow a safe speed for the prevailing conditions. It is NOT a speed limit sign.

take a chill this isn't a conspiracy thread! lol

i did say it was hearsay, so no need to cut sick

for the hell of it, what if a race driver doing 400km/h in some 1+million dollar car in the NT he thought it was safe, but it might not of been !

anyway i don't care that people speed for the fact one day they will pay the price, sometimes they get away with it and learn before they do anything stupid, i did stupid things but learn't before i got caught

LTDHO · 12-06-2006, 08:40 PM

Take the car off him.
Put him in jail with bubba for 10 years!

agony · 13-06-2006, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by LTDHO

Take the car off him.
Put him in jail with bubba for 10 years!

second that!

MO · 12-06-2006, 08:57 PM

So none of you have pushed the envelope?

EF, What else? · 12-06-2006, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by John McMaster

So none of you have pushed the envelope?

My thoughts exactly, the only difference is that this bloke got caught

**Full Noise** · 12-06-2006, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by John McMaster

So none of you have pushed the envelope?

Exactly right, he broke the eleventh commandment. He got caught.

Laminge · 13-06-2006, 10:38 AM

Different story if he took out the wife and little fella?

My point? none other than trying to establish what a tosser, and if peoples excuses are that we all have done this rather than try to help establish safe environments for the next generation to enjoy their cars ... pfft, why bother.

Just another thread.... different day.

Some of you may live already with the tragedy of what a car out of control can do, I hope most of you never will though.

Wokkas · 12-06-2006, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by John McMaster

So none of you have pushed the envelope?

You hit the nail on the hypercrital head with that one mate:Reverend:

It makes you think,
Would it have made it any safer, less illegal if he was a 55 year old with 35 years driving experience??

Infact, he will probably cop less punishment than if someone older and experienced did it.

jmc-007 · 12-06-2006, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Wokkas

You hit the nail on the hypercrital head with that one mate:Reverend:

It makes you think,
Would it have made it any safer, less illegal if he was a 55 year old with 35 years driving experience??

Infact, he will probably cop less punishment than if someone older and experienced did it.

And it wouldnt be on the news as much.

LTDHO · 12-06-2006, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by John McMaster

So none of you have pushed the envelope?

No I never drove that fast ever on the public road.
No I never exceeded the speed limit whe I was 17.
I have always had respect for the road.

I hope bubba may walking hard for this kid!!

MO · 12-06-2006, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LTDHO

No I never drove that fast ever on the public road.
No I never exceeded the speed limit whe I was 17.
I have always had respect for the road.

I hope bubba may walking hard for this kid!!

No offence sport but if what you post is true........YOU are so boring!

LTDHO · 12-06-2006, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by John McMaster

No offence sport but if what you post is true........YOU are so boring!

I guess.. :S lol
No offence taken. I value my life and others more..
I am sensible and drive fast on the track, safer this way. No cops either

ClevlndStemer · 12-06-2006, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by John McMaster

So none of you have pushed the envelope?

not 200km/h thats for sure the car i had at 18 wouldn't have reached 140 thats for bloody sure.
i leave all the speeding to track days.

AC · 13-06-2006, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by John McMaster

So none of you have pushed the envelope?

Hmm... Where would i start

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Originally Posted by PH47

cleanse him from the gene pool!

Yes, cleanse the gene pool. Off with his head :MrT_anim:

HLC · 13-06-2006, 07:24 AM

what a tool. and i wonder why my premiums are high.

red_hotxr6 · 13-06-2006, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by John McMaster

So none of you have pushed the envelope?

No sir, i have not pushed the envelope. Ihave to much respect for my car, and the people that i drive with on the road with.

Dazza XLT · 13-06-2006, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by John McMaster

So none of you have pushed the envelope?

Yes I have. In a company car In the Northern Territory where they have Open Speed Limits.

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Ryan · 13-06-2006, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by John McMaster

So none of you have pushed the envelope?

Nah I never have.

I would go to the track.

CaRtZ · 19-06-2006, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by John McMaster

So none of you have pushed the envelope?

i dont deserve a licence

Van D · 19-06-2006, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by CaRtZ

u'll say i dont deserve a licence
i'll put my hand up and i know i am gunna cop it from 99, no wait, 100% of you. i'm 17 on my learners in vic. i have done 140kmh in a 90 zone, 150 in a 110 zone and wait 4 it, my first "push of the envelope"... 160kmh in an 80 zone. all this and i never recived my fine from o camera car for 80 in a 70. now the 3 times mentioned were all early morning events on wide roads, not another car in sight etc. i love going quick but im not an idiot about it.
there is no 'track' near by except winton(bit over an hr's drive) or heathcote (further)
now don't hurt me... please!

So, you're driving on public roads, when only on a learners permit, with no adult in the car, at double the speed limit?

There's pushing the envelope, and there's going to far. You better grow up quick mate.