Glasshouse- final show tonight

[XRQTR]

Guys if you are not watching this you are missing out, it's the final night because some Poli thought it had too much negative political sattire aimed at the government, you wanna see them going at the government right now.

[16wantsI6]

hell yea ill watch it tonite, shoulda heard them taken the **** on the radio lol

[Outbackjack]

A sad day for Australia when crap like this happens.

[XRQTR]

Lmao Krispy Kreme terrorists.

[max]

Originally Posted by Outbackjack

A sad day for Australia when crap like this happens.

Well now that the ABC Board sports a pokie baron and a self-confessed aboriginal genocide debunker, what do we expect man......

[4.9 EF Futura]

Originally Posted by max

Well now that the ABC Board sports a pokie baron and a self-confessed aboriginal genocide debunker, what do we expect man......

You appear to be suggesting the board composition of the ABC is inappropriate max

Would like to hear more on this theory...

[max]

Originally Posted by 4.9 EF Futura

You appear to be suggesting the board composition of the ABC is inappropriate max

Would like to hear more on this theory...

Oh Lordie, what IS appropriate in this age we live in?????
Its not theory, its plain observation and reading published facts.
And soon there will be advertising on our ABC I'm certain.
What will be advertised? Will that be balanced?
Will that be appropriate?
Will the best interests of taxpayers be best served by that?

Matter of fact I feel my ABC is on the run-down cycle...

[Jeld-Wen Falcon]

I didnt know it was tonight? I thought it was the end of the month?

I love this show, a very sad day when pollies get there knickers in a knot. GROW SOME BALLS.

[jd dad]

Bugga missed it, is it still repeat on Sat night?

[kenz]

Pollies need to get a life seriously

[bunny]

Originally Posted by jd dad

Bugga missed it, is it still repeat on Sat night?

i dont think the repeat is on saturday night...
i was looking at the tv guide and it wasn't there

[Van D]

There's still another show? I heard the last was the 25th.

Dumbest decision in TV since keeping neighbours running.

It's discracefull IMO. Surely an audience partition can reverse the decision? It's one of the best shows on TV..

[starkersEB]

29th is the last show will just said

[Dazza XLT]

I heard 29th November.
But cannot find a link to the article but found this information

THE ABC last night axed its popular and irreverent television comedy show, The Glass House, which has been at the centre of a storm over allegations of anti-Howard Government bias.
The ABC gave no explanation for the decision apart from telling the cast and crew yesterday that not all shows could be renewed.
Host Wil Anderson posted a blog last night promising to "go out with all guns a'blazing". "It's been a really fun five years," he said.

Co-compere Dave Hughes said axing the show made little sense.

"We have had our best ratings ever," he said.

The Glass House has become the latest casualty in the "culture wars" and comes just a day after Liberal NSW senator Connie Fierravanti-Wells said during a grilling of ABC executives that co-host Corrine Grant had been guilty of a serious conflict of interest because she was the public face of the ACTU's workplace relations campaign.

And it follows revelations the ABC will pay a new chief censor $280,000 a year to investigate and monitor instances of bias on ABC programs.

Anderson, Hughes and Grant regularly make jokes about John Howard and US President George W. Bush, provoking critics to accuse them of bias.

But during a recent show Anderson responded to criticism by saying if Mark Latham had been in power they would be having a great time.

The decision to axe The Glass House came despite the show achieving its highest ratings since it first went to air in 2001 - with average audiences of 728,000.

The program regularly outrated commercial programs in the same time slot and this year won a peak audience of almost 860,000 viewers.

The last episode of The Glass House will go to air on November 29.

[cedric]

good about time

[Van D]

Originally Posted by cedric

good about time

Why's that? You don't get the jokes or issues tackled? :

[Skooter]

We should start a petition to keep it on or put it onto another nework, if it outrated commercial programs surely the commecial big bosses can see that it will pull an audience and if that means advertising throughout so be it, its a good show.

[XRQTR]

Originally Posted by Skooter

We should start a petition to keep it on or put it onto another nework, if it outrated commercial programs surely the commecial big bosses can see that it will pull an audience and if that means advertising throughout so be it, its a good show.

Don't think they (the networks) are not already doing this, but how many of you remember Good News Week, went from a hit on the ABC to a flop within weeks on commerctail TV, and now the former host can be seen hosting a ballroom dancing show lmao

[fmc351]

Im so glad the Diggers and ANZACS fought for this to happen.

[Outbackjack]

Originally Posted by fmc351

Im so glad the Diggers and ANZACS fought for this to happen.

Well said.

[4.9 EF Futura]

Originally Posted by fmc351

Im so glad the Diggers and ANZACS fought for this to happen.

How dare you compare the ANZACS to a decision surrounding a TV show. What a disgraceful thing to say. Seriously mate - that is sickening stuff.

And i must commend all participants on the thread for a great job in oversimplifying the matter. C'mon - i know you guys are media watch fans, surely you're aware of the bias issues that are currently a hot topic down at the public broadcaster.

And so they should be.

I know what you're thinking - here comes 4.9 EF to defend the government. That's not what im getting at here, believe it or not. I never liked the presenters on GH, but loved the satire and the jokes - yes, the jokes at the government's expense.

The government doesnt have a problem with the public broadcaster having a lend. Just look at the chaser - they're pretty popular with the blue boys over in canberra. Why? Because they take the p*ss out of the ALP as well, and the greens, democrats and independents.

It's balanced.

The glasshouse is not. Sorry - was not. You could not look me in the internet-eye and tell me that there was not a severe skew towards taking the p*ss out of conservatives.

That's not a problem in itself. What is a problem is the one-sidedness of it all. A strongly biased set of opinions has NO PLACE on the public broadcaster. It never has, and im glad the ABC are now looking a bit harder at the standards they need to adhere to. It is SO important that the public broadcaster maintain an appropriate bias, i dont know if i can stress that enough.

Hahaha, and as for corin grant... well considering the content of the show, i think that is the most disgusting conflict of interest in the media right now. Even rupert himself would have cringed at the idea. She is on record as having an anti-howard agenda, let alone being the face of the ACTU's campaign.

And when was the last time we saw the glasshouse having a lend of the ACTU?

Balanced? Yeah right.

It's not about pollies getting their knickers in a knot. It's not about penalising an ACTU representative. Its about the standards of the public broadcaster. The ABC is not a tool for political aganda.

[fmc351]

Originally Posted by 4.9 EF Futura

How dare you compare the ANZACS to a decision surrounding a TV show. What a disgraceful thing to say. Seriously mate - that is sickening stuff.

And i must commend all participants on the thread for a great job in oversimplifying the matter. C'mon - i know you guys are media watch fans, surely you're aware of the bias issues that are currently a hot topic down at the public broadcaster.

And so they should be.

I know what you're thinking - here comes 4.9 EF to defend the government. That's not what im getting at here, believe it or not. I never liked the presenters on GH, but loved the satire and the jokes - yes, the jokes at the government's expense.

The government doesnt have a problem with the public broadcaster having a lend. Just look at the chaser - they're pretty popular with the blue boys over in canberra. Why? Because they take the p*ss out of the ALP as well, and the greens, democrats and independents.

It's balanced.

The glasshouse is not. Sorry - was not. You could not look me in the internet-eye and tell me that there was not a severe skew towards taking the p*ss out of conservatives.

That's not a problem in itself. What is a problem is the one-sidedness of it all. A strongly biased set of opinions has NO PLACE on the public broadcaster. It never has, and im glad the ABC are now looking a bit harder at the standards they need to adhere to. It is SO important that the public broadcaster maintain an appropriate bias, i dont know if i can stress that enough.

Hahaha, and as for corin grant... well considering the content of the show, i think that is the most disgusting conflict of interest in the media right now. Even rupert himself would have cringed at the idea. She is on record as having an anti-howard agenda, let alone being the face of the ACTU's campaign.

And when was the last time we saw the glasshouse having a lend of the ACTU?

Balanced? Yeah right.

It's not about pollies getting their knickers in a knot. It's not about penalising an ACTU representative. Its about the standards of the public broadcaster. The ABC is not a tool for political aganda.

Climb down off the bronze lighthorse, it isnt going anywhere anyway. Diggers and ANZACS fought for what the country stood for, where it came from and the rights they feel it held for them and their families. They also fought for my right to make that comment.

What does this decision say about the governments view of Australian society? It says they think people form their views of the world and government from a comedy. Why would they say that? Dont try and dress it another way, its implied by the BIAS remarks.

What does have a place on the public broadcaster, is a show that the public obviously want to watch, that isnt being aired on the commercial networks. And Corine Grant has every right to a political opinion, and a job, or several. The only requirement is she be capable of doing them. Clearly she is.

If you, or one of your ilk had the creativity, you could float a show in opposition to it.

There was a push in the US to do the same to John Stewart, it was undemocratic then, as it is now. I didnt realise Id moved to Afghanistan. Howard, like Bush, is the one in the spotlight, thus the likely target.

Do you support Kahzakstans attempts to curb Borat? Do you really think their women ride outside the bus, and have been elevated to the status of just above cows?

Originally Posted by TS50

I think what he was trying to say is that Diggers and the Anzac fought to keep us free, and that includes freedom of speech. That is the way I took, and cant see how any offense is implied

Cheers. Two up anyone?

[4.9 EF Futura]

Originally Posted by fmc351

Climb down off the bronze lighthorse, it isnt going anywhere anyway. Diggers and ANZACS fought for what the country stood for, where it came from and the rights they feel it held for them and their families. They also fought for my right to make that comment.

What does this decision say about the governments view of Australian society? It says they think people form their views of the world and government from a comedy. Why would they say that? Dont try and dress it another way, its implied by the BIAS remarks.

What does have a place on the public broadcaster, is a show that the public obviously want to watch, that isnt being aired on the commercial networks. And Corine Grant has every right to a political opinion, and a job, or several. The only requirement is she be capable of doing them. Clearly she is.

If you, or one of your ilk had the creativity, you could float a show in opposition to it.

There was a push in the US to do the same to John Stewart, it was undemocratic then, as it is now. I didnt realise Id moved to Afghanistan. Howard, like Bush, is the one in the spotlight, thus the likely target.

Do you support Kahzakstans attempts to curb Borat? Do you really think their women ride outside the bus, and have been elevated to the status of just above cows?

Cheers. Two up anyone?

I'm not the one on the high horse telling others what is "australian" and what is "un australian".

Geez - one of you guys are gonna have to give me a copy of the "how to think like an aussie" textbook because by what you've been telling me, im way off.

Re: Corine Grant, i agree that she has the right to hold as many jobs as she likes and hold whatever views she pleases. And yes, she's quite capable in her current roles. However, conflict of interest is a serious matter and i have seen absolutely no attempt to manage the SERIOUS conflict which arises.

Out of one side of their collective mouths, the Glasshouse are claiming that its "all in good fun" and "not to be taken seriously". That's fine. What's not fine is that Corine has a VESTED interest in making the government look bad. And by the looks of it, the same could be said for wil. Or maybe he attends these ALP functions pro bono... out of the kindness of his heart...

Such conflicts needs to be addressed and managed in the context of the public broadcaster. Considering corine's roles outside of the glasshouse, it's possible for these roles to impact on her behaviour on the public broadcaster. A potential conflict of interest needs to be managed - it's right there in the Australian/NZ Standards on governance. These principles are accepted by all facets of government, academics, private industry etc etc Perhaps you know better than all these people? Admittedly, responsibility for managing this probably rested with the ABC or Good News Week, who produce the show.

The ABC, just like the BBC and any other publicly funded station around the world needs to present a balanced view. This is not my opinion - its intrinsic to the concept of a government funded TV station.

Balance is something the Glasshouse could easily have achieved - without any degradation in the standard of their comedy - but decided not to.

There is no place on the public broadcaster for a specific political agenda... that's all im saying.

[Work Horse]

I listened to someone from ABC management defend this decision yesterday. Offically the Glasshouse has not been axed, it's simlpy not being picked up again next season. This decision had nothing to do with perceived bias, they said. In fact satire is specifically exempt from the "balance" requirement in the ABC charter.

So I defend the rights of 4.9 EF Futura and XR6 Martin to hold their opinions. But they need to realise that's all they are, opinions. It's interesting you keep banging on about bais, and glasshouses. :

So there is no requirement at our public brodcaster to produce "balanced" satire. I wonder how you would do that? 20 jokes per show, 10 about the left, 10 about the right? Come on, its not like the glasshouse is the nightly news, it's meant to be funny and entertain people. IMHO it did that very well.

[ronwest]

Originally Posted by 4.9 EF Futura

There is no place on the public broadcaster for a specific political agenda... that's all im saying.

...then presumably you would be horrified to learn that the ABC Board consists entirely of those of a conservative persuasion and most (if not all) have an association with the Liberal Party.

Even poor old Keith Windschuttle has seen the light and now spits out conservative venom instead of progressive venon. There's nothing more bitter than a reformed lefty, lol.

I don't have a problem with the board as is. I accept that conservatives will load what they can with mates and progressives will do the same. Look at the Boards of various state govt enterprises.

It's all about getting what you want from what you can control. It's been going on forever and will continue so.

[fmc351]

Originally Posted by 4.9 EF Futura

I'm not the one on the high horse telling others what is "australian" and what is "un australian". Dont try Liberal party tricks with me mate, dont try and turn it around, i can simply go back and look at the posts. YOU TOLD ME WHAT TO, AND NOT TO SAY ABOUT ANZACS after I expressed my view on the thread. You then went into a half page essay like youve done again, HIGHHORSES indeed.

Geez - one of you guys are gonna have to give me a copy of the "how to think like an aussie" textbook because by what you've been telling me, im way off. You seem to be trying to write it, Im just not going to buy it

Re: Corine Grant, i agree that she has the right to hold as many jobs as she likes and hold whatever views she pleases. And yes, she's quite capable in her current roles. However, conflict of interest is a serious matter and i have seen absolutely no attempt to manage the SERIOUS conflict which arises.

Out of one side of their collective mouths, the Glasshouse are claiming that its "all in good fun" and "not to be taken seriously". That's fine. What's not fine is that Corine has a VESTED interest in making the government look bad. And by the looks of it, the same could be said for wil. Or maybe he attends these ALP functions pro bono... out of the kindness of his heart... How many other TV presenters, celebrities have membership to political organisations? Wake up.

Such conflicts needs to be addressed and managed in the context of the public broadcaster. Considering corine's roles outside of the glasshouse, it's possible for these roles to impact on her behaviour on the public broadcaster. A potential conflict of interest needs to be managed - it's right there in the Australian/NZ Standards on governance. These principles are accepted by all facets of government, academics, private industry etc etc Perhaps you know better than all these people? Admittedly, responsibility for managing this probably rested with the ABC or Good News Week, who produce the show.

The ABC, just like the BBC and any other publicly funded station around the world needs to present a balanced view. This is not my opinion - its intrinsic to the concept of a government funded TV station. I cant believe you cant see the obvious point here. The views expressed are about the current events. The standout player is the government, which ever that happens to be, was the GH around when a Labor govt was in the local 'Whitehouse'? Of particular focus will obviously be the governments very public figures as front runners. Im glad the people who make the show arent stupid enough to make the show about Humphrey Bear or High Five. However, Kim Beazley is often a target, and particularly so when he and Latham were at it. One could interpret their current lack of attention as a sign of impotence on their part. I give the aussie viewer a little credence with their judgement, clearly the ABC and fed Govt do not.
Balance is something the Glasshouse could easily have achieved - without any degradation in the standard of their comedy - but decided not to. 0

There is no place on the public broadcaster for a specific political agenda... that's all im saying.

Bias in the eye of the beholder. If the Labor party had a perfect track record (haha) under your theory they would still need to be lampooned for the sake of balance.

To be unbiased, equal time could have been given to a creation by some 'Liberal Party lackies' to use your implied terms, is all im saying. That would also create the Unbias you speak of. Think outside the liberal box.

If the ABC board was not biased, why axe a show that is clearly popular with the consumer, neigh, actual owners of the ABC, when they themselves state that balance is not a requirement of comedy? What is the standard for continuing a show if not its popularity. Hmmmm...

[XR Martin]

The whole purpose of the ABC is to give the public an unbiased opinion. Theres a four other channels that can offer as much biased media as you want so let them have it.

The show sucked anyway, so good riddence

[merlin]

I liked this show - parts of it are very funny, and some of the jokes are very clever sattire.

[XAGSV8]

I hope the Chasers are not next.

[max]

Yeah the heats getting too much for the feds. Oh brother! Remember the sedition laws– they said comedy/satire will be immune. Simple enough though to axe their precieved notion of it off the main socio-political humour crucible in the country– the ABC! The commercial networks won't have the guts to take it on.