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Old 02-11-2006, 09:30 PM   #1
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So... I know we hate slow drivers driving on the right lane. Now, define "slow"...is it driving at the speed limit? 10kph under? 20kph under? 50kph under?

I was driving AT the speed limit on the left lane and ALOT of car overtook me AGGRESSIVELY. They sure were really ****ed off about something.

So what's "slow". :eclipsee_

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Slow to me in this instance is not passing a car, driving at the same speed as the car they are trying to pass.

The worst ones out there are the guys and gals that see you coming and pull out to pass just as you get near them, I hate having to turn cruise off just cause some oxygen thief doesn't have common courtesy!!
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The worst ones out there are the guys and gals that see you coming and pull out to pass just as you get near them, I hate having to turn cruise off just cause some oxygen thief doesn't have common courtesy!!
That is a **** off alright.
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Slow to me in this instance is not passing a car, driving at the same speed as the car they are trying to pass.

The worst ones out there are the guys and gals that see you coming and pull out to pass just as you get near them, I hate having to turn cruise off just cause some oxygen thief doesn't have common courtesy!!
Exactly why do people do that, in the end all they do is irritate and annoy other drivers.Or they pass the car in the left hand lane and then stay at the same speed as them, blocking both lanes, but are legally doing the speed limit.
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I get the same thing, i can be in the right lane overtaking slower traffic in the left lane at say 10km/h over the limit and as soon as a gap opens in the left lane before i get a chance to duck into the gap to let the people pass i get undercut very aggressively it gives me the sht's big time.

To answer your question i don't think it matters what speed you are doing there will always be someone travelling faster than you are.
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The thing i hate is that left lane drivers drive 10k's below the limit and the right lane drivers drive 10k's above. The problem is that i drive exactly the limit so every time i change lanes to the right i always get tail gaited.
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I hate people who will not move out of the way of faster moving traffic.

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Depends how fast the faster moving traffic is going, well over the speed limit? and if theres slower traffic in the left lane.

I hate those that go well over the speed limit and think others going just over the speed limit have to move over into slower traffic, just so they can continue at their excessive speed.
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Depends how fast the faster moving traffic is going, well over the speed limit? and if theres slower traffic in the left lane.

I hate those that go well over the speed limit and think others going just over the speed limit have to move over into slower traffic, just so they can continue at their excessive speed.
I also hate people who want to dictate to me what speed I can drive at. I will drive at the speed I choose to and only the law will have any inffluence upon that.

The law states "keep left unless overtaking". The law does not state "keep left unless overtaking but you do not have to move if you are doing the speed limit".

It never ceases to amaze me that the far left lane on the freeway is often the best lane to use because nobody wants to keep left!

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I also hate people who want to dictate to me what speed I can drive at. I will drive at the speed I choose to and only the law will have any inffluence upon that.

The law states "keep left unless overtaking". The law does not state "keep left unless overtaking but you do not have to move if you are doing the speed limit".

It never ceases to amaze me that the far left lane on the freeway is often the best lane to use because nobody wants to keep left!

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I agree 100%!

Some people think that because they do the speed limit or even a little over they can stay in the right lane. You don't know the reason behind other peoples speed, so regardless of how fast you are going, "keep left unless overtaking".
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It never ceases to amaze me that the far left lane on the freeway is often the best lane to use because nobody wants to keep left!
It's not the 'far' left lane, it IS the let lane.

The traffic lane next to this is the middle-lane (or 'lanes'). The one on the right is the right lane.

Most here who whinge about not keeping left, only keep middle themselves, often as bad as the others.

I see no one has taken the earlier NSW motorway lane use text in the Pdf download on page 1.

New2fords comment re mcuh better lane discipline and practice Europe is obvious, Europe has half decent speed limits.

The dumber the speed limit, the worse the driver behaviour, NOTHING can change than and it will not change here any time soon. One day, maybe.
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I also hate people who want to dictate to me what speed I can drive at. I will drive at the speed I choose to and only the law will have any inffluence upon that.

The law states "keep left unless overtaking". The law does not state "keep left unless overtaking but you do not have to move if you are doing the speed limit".

It never ceases to amaze me that the far left lane on the freeway is often the best lane to use because nobody wants to keep left!

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Agree 100% mate, the far left lane appears to be the unofficial "fast lane" sometimes because no-one will keep left like they are supposed to. Alot of it just comes down to arrogance I think. I use the M4 to & from work everyday, I always get help up by people sitting in the right lane, I sit on about 120 and also get passed by people in the right lane (I reckon 75% are "P" platers) who then refuse to pull back into the left lane after overtaking. "KEEP LEFT UNLESS OVERTAKING" has got to be one of the easiest rules to abide by, but too many people seam to find it too hard........................why???????????
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Old 04-11-2006, 05:58 PM   #13
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Ah, so I went for a drive today with this thread on my mind :eclipsee_ . I was travelling on a 2-lane road, I've got a Land Rover travelling at the speed limit on my left... fair enough. On the right lane there was this Corolla travelling slightly faster than the Land Rover... so I changed lane and drive at 65kph hoping to overtake the Land Cruiser.

What did the Corolla driver do? he answered his fone, slowed down at Land Cruiser's speed and just sit there on the right lane.

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I also hate people who want to dictate to me what speed I can drive at. I will drive at the speed I choose to and only the law will have any inffluence upon that.

The law states "keep left unless overtaking". The law does not state "keep left unless overtaking but you do not have to move if you are doing the speed limit".

It never ceases to amaze me that the far left lane on the freeway is often the best lane to use because nobody wants to keep left!

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Agree 100% FF - let the police do the policing and people who dont want to speed can get out of the right hand lane - unless they are overtaking someone immediatly (i.e. the car they are overtaking is not 10km down the road).
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Agree 100% FF - let the police do the policing and people who dont want to speed can get out of the right hand lane - unless they are overtaking someone immediatly (i.e. the car they are overtaking is not 10km down the road).
ROFL..

You can not be serious.
I do not know anyone or have ever seen this law enforced. Hence why it continually happens. I drove down the Monash (Vic) yesterday and people drive past the signs 'Keep left unless overtaking' signs while in the right lane and nothing on the left. It's a law that is not enforced and drivers do as the please. I have never seen an ad on TV telling me it's law, unlike speeding, etc.

IMO not obeying this law contributes to road rage, speeding, undertaking (passing on left) and accidents. Yet nothing is done
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This ****es me to no end! :

When i drive to Uni along the Monash Freeway (4 lanes each way) i frequently overtake cars in the middle lanes as these knobs just sit in the outside lane motoring along.

The question should not be whats defined as 'slow' for driving in the right lane, it should be WHY do people drive in the right lane. The right lane is for overtaking only doesnt matter if your going the speed limit, faster or slower as long as your overtaking the car in the lane next to you and move over at the first possible chance thats ok.

I do not understand why people sit in the right lane sometimes i come right up their **** with all my front lights on and sit there until they move, dangerous i know but these people need to take a hint.

I lived in the UK last year and drivers over there are at a much higher skill level than in Australia. They are all courteous, they know how to read the traffic and they KEEP LEFT!
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Agreed, Why do people have to sit in the outside at all .......ARRRRRRRGH , getting P****D Off thinking about it !!
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If I'm going at the speed limit plus a bit more to allow for tolerances, and there's slower traffic in the LH lane, I dont move over when I know I'll get trapped in that slower lane. So those behind that want to go well over the speed limit just have to wait.

I only move over if there's no slower traffic in the LH lane that will slow me down.

Also I hate those that overtake me when I'm in the left lane, then cut in straight in front of me leaving no margin. Sometimes they then slow down to the speed limit, so why overtake? They think they're doing the right thing moving over to the left, but really they dont give a stuff about those they've just overtaken.
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If I'm going at the speed limit plus a bit more to allow for tolerances, and there's slower traffic in the LH lane, I dont move over when I know I'll get trapped in that slower lane. So those behind that want to go well over the speed limit just have to wait.

I only move over if there's no slower traffic in the LH lane that will slow me down.

Also I hate those that overtake me when I'm in the left lane, then cut in straight in front of me leaving no margin. Sometimes they then slow down to the speed limit, so why overtake? They think they're doing the right thing moving over to the left, but really they dont give a stuff about those they've just overtaken.
I agree with you brother...

I hate it when I drving at the speed limit in the left lane and some punk behind me overtakes, cuts straight in front of me and then turns left immediately after overtaking me. It's like: what's the point of overtaking me when you have to turn left anyway?
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dont get me started on this subject, if only i had a machine gun mounted on the bonnet
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my mate once had a paintball gun mounted in his grill with a trigger button on the dash....he only used it a couple of times... to ppl that really kept ****ing him off...lol
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It is crap when drivers get in front and slow down or cut you off or speed up when you go to pass but its important to remember that as long as you are doing all the right things and sitting in the left unless overtaking etc etc then its their bad driving not yours. I find every situation important to acess and in my biased;) opinion is what makes me a driver who is confident in my actions. One eg is if I am in the left and want to pass a car infront of me its important to look where the car in the right lane is and how fast he/she is coming up before I move into the right. If I can move into the right and am prepared to do atlest the same speed that Ive judged that they are doing then I go, if not I dont. Its like people who pull out on others half the time they think to themselves that car is all the way over there, but the trouble is have they thought, that car is moving so I should be safe and wait? Half the time they havent even thought if they are pulling out into a 60kmh zone or a 100kmh zone.
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It's illegal to drive unless overtaking in the right hand lane if the speed limit is 80km/h or above it doesn't matter what speed the car is actually doing it's either overtaking or move back over.
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So... I know we hate slow drivers driving on the right lane. Now, define "slow"...is it driving at the speed limit? 10kph under? 20kph under? 50kph under?

I was driving AT the speed limit on the left lane and ALOT of car overtook me AGGRESSIVELY. They sure were really ****ed off about something.

So what's "slow". :eclipsee_
The slow I hate dealing with is those sitting on 60 in the right in a 80 zone and those sitting on 70 to 80 on the freeway on the right.
I wish they would learn to keep left.

It's also annoying when they do this and you cannot overtake the person infront in the left lane.
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Driving on a freeway or motorway - lane discipline, see page 92 of this NSW handbook, Pdf 2.92mb.
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remember in VIC u can legally sit where u like (left or right) upto and including 80km/h.... i drive the limit and also hate the tailgating when i change into the right... so i slow to 5km under!
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remember in VIC u can legally sit where u like (left or right) upto and including 80km/h....
and I personally think it's wrong, frustrating, annoying, etc....
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and I personally think it's wrong, frustrating, annoying, etc....
100% right. Not to mention inconsiderate, dangerous (people 2 kms behind you WILL be fuming), inconsiderate, selfish, inconsiderate, rude, selfish, inconsiderate, and finally, it shows you have no regard for anyone on the road other than yourself. It is this sort of behaviour that leads to accidents, even if you don't cause them directly, you test the frustration levels of every other driver on the road, and eventually someone will crack.
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100% right. Not to mention inconsiderate, dangerous (people 2 kms behind you WILL be fuming), inconsiderate, selfish, inconsiderate, rude, selfish, inconsiderate, and finally, it shows you have no regard for anyone on the road other than yourself. It is this sort of behaviour that leads to accidents, even if you don't cause them directly, you test the frustration levels of every other driver on the road, and eventually someone will crack.
Exactly.

Just last weekend I almost cracked, having to put up with an old man sitting on the right lane doing 50 to 60 in a 80 zone. I couldn't overtake him because I was stuck with the driver on the left just sitting there. I wasn't tailgating the old man or being stupid, but if I got a little closer he would slam on his brakes. What am I to do? I was fuming. During the week I'm in the same situation, also finding it hard to overtake from the left due to someone at snail pace on the right. No wonder ambulance drivers and those of us with common sense are so angered.

I would love nothing more than to see the "legally sit where you like (left or right) upto and including 80km/h" law abolished, it's stupid and ridiculous.
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