western ring road cameras on in 2 weeks

[kyro_02]

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...3-2862,00.html

THE speed enforcement net will tighten on lead-foot drivers when a battery of a new type of cameras is switched on along the Hume Freeway this month.

Government coffers will soar by $100 million with the return of cameras along the Western Ring Rd after a three-year absence


would still be nice to introduce 10kmph tolerance.......

[Allen]

Great... I travel on the ring road, and the hume everyday...

If only people were actually able to maintain a steady speed, my cruise control may actually be able to be used effectivly!

I'll just have to extra vigilent and check my speedo more than the road...:P

[Brent]

Good god, can you just imagine it, especially on the Hume............

- a conga line of cars sitting 3 inches away from the bumper of the one in front, too scared to drift more than 1kph over the limit;

- eyes of drivers fixed on speedos instead of the road;

- people riding the brakes down hills;

- somebody deciding to brake suddenly when they see a camera, despite the fact there's a B-double on their tailgate, only because the "think" they may have drifted over the limit in the last 2kms, so they slow down before going through the next camera checkpoint.

Yep, that's the sort of driving practices we really want. This friggin state government is in absolute wedlock to speed camera revenue. Its a disgrace.

[kyro_02]

my old car had no cruise .. and when the cameras were up i was always looking at the speedo and stayed on 95kmh(an after a few km will cruise to 100kmph) cause these cameras are probably as dodgy as the last.

[xe351]

this is gunna save lives *sarcasm*

[Fordman1]

$10 mill of Revenue per year apparently.....

[kyro_02]

lol they have their financial planned out , they know exactly how much they'll be racking in........ nothing sus :P

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by kyro_02

lol they have their financial planned out , they know exactly how much they'll be racking in........ nothing sus :P

It's sad isn't it ?

But it'll make the world a much safer place...Lol..... NOT.

[Green X]

The 25mm bushmarster should let those speed cameras know whose the boss. LOL

[Outbackjack]

When ever I travel in Victoria it seems like a far more dangerous place than any other state. Drivers are not concentrating on their surrounding. They are locked onto their speedo. Perhaps it is a bad habit of mine , but I always just drive at a safe speed. Checking my speedo is a secondary consideration. It is much safer to have a good situational awareness than to dogedly gaze at the speedo. I will be in MLB in May, but I have taken insurance, I will not be contributing the her' Brack's revenue coffers. And besides didn't you Victorians just re-elect the hair piece? He must be doing a great job (sarcasm)

[Jeeepers]

Originally Posted by Outbackjack

When ever I travel in Victoria it seems like a far more dangerous place than any other state. Drivers are not concentrating on their surrounding. They are locked onto their speedo. Perhaps it is a bad habit of mine , but I always just drive at a safe speed. Checking my speedo is a secondary consideration. It is much safer to have a good situational awareness than to dogedly gaze at the speedo. I will be in MLB in May, but I have taken insurance, I will not be contributing the her' Brack's revenue coffers. And besides didn't you Victorians just re-elect the hair piece? He must be doing a great job (sarcasm)

I was absent from Victoria for 3 years ('98 to '01) and when I returned, I couldn't believe the state of paranoia Vic drivers were in. In the Governments quest for cash (and so called road safety) they have created a multitude of accidents waiting for a time slot. Good call pencil necks. This strategy can only produce money and carnage, because it sure as hell aint doing much else. When finances are right, I'll be returning north.

[FRDGAL]

And this is saving lives how exactly?? What BS will they use to convince us all that the point-to-point camera system is being introduced to cut the road toll and not revenue raising, I wonder _

[arby]

It only raises revenue if you speed. Cope!

[Outbackjack]

Originally Posted by arby

It only raises revenue if you speed. Cope!

Man, have you been brain washed!!!

[[Tonko]]

Originally Posted by arby

It only raises revenue if you speed. Cope!

You must either be 15 or from out of state. Lets see who winges when they are done 3km over at 4am. You cant give full concentration to the road when you have to be pedantic with your speedo...

[XCSEDAN]

time for a spraycan me thinks....
i hate these stupid things they come up with!
i talked to a senior sargent at a police station, and he litterally said to me "it's all ******* revenue raising bullshit to me mate!"
thats no joke!
this is a bloody senior sargent talking! he is seriously sick of the bracks government, and so am i! why the hell does he keep getting voted in?

[FPV GT]

Originally Posted by XYSEDAN

why the hell does he keep getting voted in?

I hear a lot of victorians say this. But pardon me, is it not the people of victoria keep re-electing him.

Seriously, I do not think a change of government would relax on the camera issue, especially if as much revenue as stated is being raised.

Regards
waiting for it to happen in NSW
Paul

[XCSEDAN]

Originally Posted by FPV GT

I hear a lot of victorians say this. But pardon me, is it not the people of victoria keep re-electing him.

Seriously, I do not think a change of government would relax on the camera issue, especially if as much revenue as stated is being raised.

Regards
waiting for it to happen in NSW
Paul

all of my family voted against him...
i think its just that more people beleive the BS that gets spun at election time then reality...
herd about the new P-plate laws? NO V8's!!!!
bloody BS i can understand supercharged n turbocharged cars, because you can chane the boost pretty easy, but i mean most people who drive V8s on there P's the engines are less bowerfull then a BA XT!

[robs_ls1]

Originally Posted by XYSEDAN

herd about the new P-plate laws? NO V8's!!!!

P platers have had a power restriction for decades. When I was on my P's, I wasn't allowed to drive the family's 6 cylinder Cortina because of it's power to weight ratio. This was under a Liberal government.

Originally Posted by FPV GT

Seriously, I do not think a change of government would relax on the camera issue, especially if as much revenue as stated is being raised.

Exactly right.

[Jeeepers]

Originally Posted by FPV GT

I hear a lot of victorians say this. But pardon me, is it not the people of victoria keep re-electing him.

Seriously, I do not think a change of government would relax on the camera issue, especially if as much revenue as stated is being raised.

Regards
waiting for it to happen in NSW
Paul

I hear ya, and yes once a policy is in. It stays regardless of who wears the Tutu. Remember Pyramid fellow Vics? Bet my bum that 5 cent per litre still counts.

[kyro_02]

Originally Posted by XYSEDAN

time for a spraycan me thinks....

good luck trying to reach them where they are now lol :P

need to get a rocket launcher out and nail into them.

[Allen]

I guess I shouldn't be too worried... The main times I travel on these particular roads is around 8am, and 5pm... so there is very little chance of me exceeding 40km/h let alone the speed limit :P

[Jeeepers]

Originally Posted by fairlane_ghia

I guess I shouldn't be too worried... The main times I travel on these particular roads is around 8am, and 5pm... so there is very little chance of me exceeding 40km/h let alone the speed limit :P

Ahhhh suburbia, gotta love it. That's why I like nightshift hahahahah.

[rodderz]

These were turned off 3 years ago for not working properly. Whats to say they wont again, or even admit to it once 1 mistake has been realised? Some of these cameras are time over distance, which I would say are at greater risk to error

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by rodderz

Some of these cameras are time over distance, which I would say are at greater risk to error

Should be less risk as they would be linked to a central computer.

[Steady ED]

Originally Posted by GasOLane

Should be less risk as they would be linked to a central computer.

I would think that's more risk.
Adding an extra level of complexity to anything is going to introduce more risk of component failure and/or error.

To prove my point, previously your speed was measured once by the strips in the road, a picture was snapped, stored, and the fine sent out if speeding.

Now, with the new system, as far as I understand, you go under the radars, a picture of your numberplate is, taken, recognised and stored (whether you are actually speeding at the time or not).
You continue travelling, you get to the next camera, another picture of your numberplate is taken, recognised, stored, the numberplates are matched, the time between the two points is compared to get a distance over time reading, and if it's too fast, the fine is sent out.

I also wonder if the numberplate recognition system is similar to what is used in alot of servos?
Dunno if anyone else does it, but when I'm lining up to pay for my petrol, I always watch the screens, and it's a bit of worry.
Picking up signage on trucks is the most common thing, and seeing as trucks are a fairly common occurence on the ring road, they'd want to have a more accurate system...

Might have to get around to changing my speedo sender gear instead of just following traffic flow :togo:

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by Steady ED

Now, with the new system, as far as I understand, you go under the radars, a picture of your numberplate is, taken, recognised and stored (whether you are actually speeding at the time or not).
You continue travelling, you get to the next camera, another picture of your numberplate is taken, recognised, stored, the numberplates are matched, the time between the two points is compared to get a distance over time reading, and if it's too fast, the fine is sent out.

I also wonder if the numberplate recognition system is similar to what is used in alot of servos?
Dunno if anyone else does it, but when I'm lining up to pay for my petrol, I always watch the screens, and it's a bit of worry.
Picking up signage on trucks is the most common thing, and seeing as trucks are a fairly common occurence on the ring road, they'd want to have a more accurate system...

Might have to get around to changing my speedo sender gear instead of just following traffic flow :togo:

I think you'll find it is the same, or based on, the Safe-T-Cam system that we have and the pics are NOTHING like the el-cheapo ones in servo's.

The system was developed by the RTA and the CSIRO. Our RTA may be a bunch of dorks but not the CSIRO.

See here... http://vision.cmit.csiro.au/project/stc/ and here http://vision.cmit.csiro.au/project/alpr/

[chevypower]

so when are all of us on this forum going to do something productive and shoot them all down in one night?

[ARYAN]

this speed camera madness is too much..too many of them..i am sick of checking my speedo all the time..people must come together and start a campaign against this..we have to do something about it..i dont think Mr. barracks or whatever cares about our lives..bullshit..

[ARYAN]

I would suggest using Dragunov against them..
http://www.dragunov.net/