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Old 16-01-2009, 12:11 PM   #1
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Thumbs up Aussie Soldier Wins VC In Afghanistan

A DIGGER who risked his own life to save an army interpreter in Afghanistan has become the first Australian to receive the Victoria Cross in more than 40 years.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and Governor-General Quentin Bryce made the historic announcement today at Government House in Canberra.

Tropper Mark Donaldson received the award for his actions in Afghanistan on September 2 last year, when, under heavy fire, he ran 80 metres to save an interpreter for the coalition forces and carried him to safety under sustained and accurate shooting.

The investiture at Government House was told that on numerous occasions Trooper Donaldson deliberately drew enemy fire in order to allow wounded soldiers to be removed to safety.

"As the battle raged around him he saw that the coalition force interpreter was lying motionless on exposed ground," the governor-general's official secretary Stephen Brady told the gathering.

"With complete disregard for his own safety on his own initiative and alone, Trooper Donaldson ran back 80 metres across exposed ground to rescue the interpreter and carry him back to a vehicle.

"Trooper Donaldson then rejoined his patrol and then continued to engage the enemy while remaining exposed to heavy enemy fire."

The Victoria Cross is the highest possible award for acts of bravery in wartime, ahead of the Military Cross. Queen Victoria instituted the award in 1856 and made it retrospective to cover the Crimean War.

In 1975 it became the Victoria Cross for Australia after the imperial awards system changed.

Some 97 Australians have received the Victoria Cross for acts of bravery in the Boer War, the two World Wars, Russia and Vietnam.

The Victoria Cross is in the form of the Maltese Cross: in the centre of the medal is a lion standing upon the Royal Crown. The words "For valour" are inscribed below.

The Victoria Cross is suspended from a bar by a red ribbon. On the reverse of the cross the date of the act of bravery is inscribed, along with the name, rank, and unit of the recipient.

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Russia??? Do they mean the Russian Revolution?
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Old 16-01-2009, 01:33 PM   #3
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Russia??? Do they mean the Russian Revolution?
After WWI Some allied soldiers went to Russia to assist in what was known as the White Revolution, if memory serves 2 VC's were won there.

This Trooper must have done something/s extraordinary, VC Citations are always written in very bland language.
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Old 16-01-2009, 04:36 PM   #4
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well done i say

and he deserves all the praise of what it means to be Australian... helping ones mate through thick and thin even if it means risking life.
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I'd be interested to hear what really happened. He'd have to have done a lot more than what it says there to win a VC so its a pity they don't tell you what these Special Forces blokes get up to.

Its pretty hard to win one without dying or getting badly injured and fighting on, running through enemy fire and dragging a bloke to safety doesn't really cut it for the VC.
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I'd be interested to hear what really happened. He'd have to have done a lot more than what it says there to win a VC so its a pity they don't tell you what these Special Forces blokes get up to.

Its pretty hard to win one without dying or getting badly injured and fighting on, running through enemy fire and dragging a bloke to safety doesn't really cut it for the VC.

Behave, the English soldier who won the VC recently has head injuries so debilitating he cant actively serve any more.
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Well they don't hand out VC's like lollies, the last lot of VC that were given out were the Falkland's war and sadly the soliders that recieved them were all killed and given postumosly (forgive the spelling),
Wait there i didn't read the above post so who was this english solider and what did he do.
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Old 16-01-2009, 06:44 PM   #8
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Wait there i didn't read the above post so who was this english solider and what did he do.
That would be LCPL Johnson Beharry.

In short, he was driving an armoured vehicle (as a Private) that was hit by multiple RPGs. All the people in the vehicle were injured and he drove through enemy fire to safety and extracted his mates to safety whilst under enemy fire.

A month later, his vehicle was again hit by RPGs in an ambush. His OC was injured badly and he suffered from major head injuries. He drove his vehicle to safety again before losing consciousness.

He needed brain surgery after that event and has not returned to full health. At the moment he is unlikely to return to full duties although he is still on the Army Payroll.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson_Beharry
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"Every Australian should stand proud today"

The words "Legend" and "Hero" are used extremely lightly in todays artificial world, but you Tropper Mark Donaldson are the "genuine article"

Congratulations to this very brave man, I for one am extremely proud and ultimately grateful of his courageous actions, and also those of the many other service men and women serving in the armed forces during these difficult times.

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Well they don't hand out VC's like lollies, the last lot of VC that were given out were the Falkland's war and sadly the soliders that recieved them were all killed and given postumosly (forgive the spelling),
Wait there i didn't read the above post so who was this english solider and what did he do.
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The two awards given in the 21st century to British personnel have been for actions in the Afghanistan War and the Iraq War. On 18 March 2005, Lance Corporal (then Private) Johnson Beharry of the 1st Battalion, Princess of Wales's Royal Regiment became the first recipient of the VC since Sergeant Ian McKay in 1982.[14]

The most recent award of the Victoria Cross to a British service person was the posthumous award on 14 December 2006 to Corporal Bryan Budd of 3 Para. It was awarded for two separate acts of "inspirational leadership and the greatest valour" which led to his death, during actions against the Taliban in Afghanistan in July and August 2006.[61]

It was announced on 2 July 2007 that Corporal Bill Apiata of the Special Air Service of New Zealand (NZ SAS) was awarded the Victoria Cross for New Zealand for carrying a severely wounded comrade 70 metres over rocky ground while under heavy machine-gun and Rocket propelled grenade fire during the Afghanistan War in 2004.[62][63]

On 16 January 2009 Trooper Mark Donaldson of Australia was the first recipient of the Victoria Cross for Australia for actions carried out under enemy fire in Afghanistan
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That would be LCPL Johnson Beharry.

In short, he was driving an armoured vehicle (as a Private) that was hit by multiple RPGs. All the people in the vehicle were injured and he drove through enemy fire to safety and extracted his mates to safety whilst under enemy fire.

A month later, his vehicle was again hit by RPGs in an ambush. His OC was injured badly and he suffered from major head injuries. He drove his vehicle to safety again before losing consciousness.

He needed brain surgery after that event and has not returned to full health. At the moment he is unlikely to return to full duties although he is still on the Army Payroll.

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And more should be awarded. It is a job I would not want to do. My son is talking of enlisting if he doesn't pass the police exam ...No Way son! There is a war goin on and I dont want you to be a part of it! Dont get me wrong, I am very grateful to those who are fighting the fight and my thoughts were with you and your families at Christmas time. May you all return home safe! More recognition needs to be made IMO!
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Just the best news I have heard in recent times.........

I have a few buddies "out west" and the story i have is much different, this bloke has a heart as big and as strong as an ox.

put it this way, not just the interpreter, but 7 SF and 2 medics owe their life to this bloke as well.

For operational and tactical reasons, the whole truth is rarely told, but the untold story here is that an Aussie stuck his neck out for his mates, just like the 9 others who NEVER made it.

Makes me god damn proud to be an Australian.
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"Every Australian should stand proud today"

The words "Legend" and "Hero" are used extremely lightly in todays artificial world, but you Tropper Mark Donaldson are the "genuine article"

Congratulations to this very brave man, I for one am extremely proud and ultimately grateful of his courageous actions, and also those of the many other service men and women serving in the armed forces during these difficult times.

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The 7:30 report ran the ceremony last night:

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The words "Legend" and "Hero" are used extremely lightly in todays artificial world, but you Tropper Mark Donaldson are the "genuine article"

Congratulations to this very brave man, I for one am extremely proud and ultimately grateful of his courageous actions, and also those of the many other service men and women serving in the armed forces during these difficult times.

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champion, sarge told me the full story at work today, bluepower is on the money. absolute legend and hero. well done mate you did the regiment and army proud.
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Its pretty hard to win one without dying or getting badly injured and fighting on, running through enemy fire and dragging a bloke to safety doesn't really cut it for the VC.

Running across 80m of rocky ground, carrying a wounded man whilst under accurate heavy machine gun fire, you don't get much braver than that. Even WO2 Keith Payne thought he had been killed when he read the citation. Keith was stoked to find out "we have a live one".

As has been said, VC citations never give a good feel for what really happened and the magnitude of the action. Just read some of the citations of the other 96 aussies that have been awarded them.

This is enormous, still alive and still in service, the Army now has a new mascot. I bet he is now the only man in the unit that the CO of SASR will call sir. Pity his service in SASR will come to an end as he is now too well known and too easily identified. Having said that I am sure he will now get the posting of his choice if he remains in service.
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Well done on his decision to lend the medal to the National War Museum too.
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[QUOTE=geckoGT]Running across 80m of rocky ground, carrying a wounded man whilst under accurate heavy machine gun fire, you don't get much braver than that. QUOTE]
Couldn't of been that accurate they didn't get him ,


On him for loaning his medal indefinately to the War Museum, My father donated all his Fathers (my grand father, i never got to now him, my lose) medals from WW2 to the local RSL (St Mary's), not in the same league i know but still happy there on display for all to see
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Strange that his picture was shown in the media though.
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Couldn't of been that accurate they didn't get him ,


On him for loaning his medal indefinately to the War Museum, My father donated all his Fathers (my grand father, i never got to now him, my lose) medals from WW2 to the local RSL (St Mary's), not in the same league i know but still happy there on display for all to see
Those fellows shoot a solid jacket 7.62, and the only real heavy gun of any use is the Russian Dishka, which the taliban have been known to aim at people as well as aircraft. A 7.62 in a burst scenario is not an easily contolled weapon.......a dishka cant be brought to bear quick enough against a fast moving target in close quarters (under 100metres or so)

Put it this way - im certain that they were shocked to see someone run right into a Kill zone, and maybe their pause was enough - and to see him fight back???

Im sure those enemy were glad to see contact broken with those Aussies....

They would have been trying to sight him up whilst also putting up with the way the AK "klak klak" behaves.. who cares, he is alive, he is a hero, and if he paused or waited, we could have lost someone.

I cant wait for Australia Day, APRIL 25!!!!!!!!!
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Yes, good point, however the morale will do wonders for SF and for the REMF's in canberra who dont pay them their dues. :
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I cant wait for Australia Day, APRIL 25!!!!!!!!!

actually Australia Day is the 26th of January i think you meant Anzac Day but they are both as good as each other and make you feel proud to be australian

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