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Old 31-10-2012, 09:23 PM   #1
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Bit of advice my ute is going in for its 3000k service tommorow and after hearing some horror storys of people spare going missing or being replaced with a ****** one i took mine off/out but when i slid it out from under the car there is a huge chunk/gash in the tyre and a decent size kerb dent/chunk.

Whats your thoughts on whats my best avenue to go down in regards to this.

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Old 31-10-2012, 09:38 PM   #2
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Bit of advice my ute is going in for its 3000k service tommorow and after hearing some horror storys of people spare going missing or being replaced with a ****** one i took mine off/out but when i slid it out from under the car there is a huge chunk/gash in the tyre and a decent size kerb dent/chunk.

Whats your thoughts on whats my best avenue to go down in regards to this.
Are you saying your spare had been replaced to swap a damaged wheel a dealer had in their yard, and you found this out when you took out your spare?
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Old 31-10-2012, 09:51 PM   #3
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Are you saying your spare had been replaced to swap a damaged wheel a dealer had in their yard, and you found this out when you took out your spare?
no ive heard before peoples spares get replaced with **** ones mine hasn't been in yet but its damaged. and never been used
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Old 31-10-2012, 09:57 PM   #4
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So you are saying its been swapped at delivery, before you got it??
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Old 31-10-2012, 10:01 PM   #5
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So you are saying its been swapped at delivery, before you got it??
no i have no idea it looks brand new other than the damage on the tyre and rim ?
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Old 31-10-2012, 10:10 PM   #6
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the wheel and tyre looks to be brand new but it looks like its hit a kerb hard and someone ahs changed the rim and put it as the spare ? i dunno first time ive ever taken a look at it and found the damage.

this sorta shows damage to tyre




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Old 31-10-2012, 10:30 PM   #7
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I saw a vehicle being loaded onto a car carrier yesterday that was a bit far over to one side. Same thing happened, except the tyre deflated.
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Old 31-10-2012, 10:40 PM   #8
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I would just report it and ask for it to be replaced. You've done nothing wrong so you've got nothing to hide.

But I've never heard of spares being swapped whilst the car is being serviced.
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Old 31-10-2012, 10:41 PM   #9
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Can you see if there are marks where the wheel nuts go, indicating that the wheel had been fitted previously?

Possibly something like WILDB mentioned could have happened, and they swapped the wheels over.
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Old 31-10-2012, 10:53 PM   #10
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it looks to be like it has been on the car before as there is some marks in side the nut holes
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Old 31-10-2012, 10:56 PM   #11
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So then you can explain the situation to them with that as evidence. There should also be very minimal wear on the tread if it was fitted only during build and delivery.
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P Plater apprentice doing pre-delivery test drive?

Would be disappointing, I hope they can do something for you
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I would ask for it to be swapped and if they don't kick and scream till they do.
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Old 31-10-2012, 11:34 PM   #14
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It was probably damaged pre delivery. When the car got to the dealership for delivery, the detailers probably seen it and swapped it over with your spare. Seeing that damage you may want to get the front of your car checked and a wheel alignment.
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Old 01-11-2012, 12:14 AM   #15
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It was probably damaged pre delivery. When the car got to the dealership for delivery, the detailers probably seen it and swapped it over with your spare. Seeing that damage you may want to get the front of your car checked and a wheel alignment.
well the car does pull to one side when driving so do u think that may be a hint as to something gone wrong ??
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well the car does pull to one side when driving so do u think that may be a hint as to something gone wrong ??
Yep I think it may have hit a pot hole it gutter before it was delivered to you.
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That wheel has copped a good old wack, I think i'd be asking for a replacement too.
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Old 01-11-2012, 01:37 AM   #18
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I thought all utes came with stell spare wheels ! I know mine did.
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Unfortunately happens quite a bit. Front and rear bars also get slammed. 95% of people dont inspect their "New" car at the dealership before they drive away. However for your OP of things being swapped at service time, I suppose I could and probably has happened in the past but I would think its fairly unlikely.
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Did you pay for a spare alloy? Or did they just gift it to you after they damaged it?

Usually they charge an extra $300 for a spare alloy and tyre!! Looks to me they have damaged it and put a new one on before delivery and given you the old one as a good will gesture, instead of the standard steel rim.

Happens all the time, usually caused by Toll unloading them off the trucks!! My XR6 ute had the same thing, dealer put a brand new one on it but weren't nice enough to give me the slightly scraped one back :(

I would be asking the question though.... watch them run and duck for cover, your within your rights to ask for a brand new wheel and tyre, they should have given you the option of the damage one or a new steel spare at delivery.
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That tyre is dangerous. There is nothing 'goodwill' about supplying the car with damaged wheels and tyres (it would be illegal to drive it at all- the spare tyre must be legal) and I would take it to an independent shop for a full S&S inspection.
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Please let us know whether the dealer cooperates or not.
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What way round does the spare sit under the rear tray.... ?
My guess is that the dealer may say it was damaged by a rock or something ?
(Although it sure looks like a kerb hit)
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What way round does the spare sit under the rear tray.... ?
My guess is that the dealer may say it was damaged by a rock or something ?
(Although it sure looks like a kerb hit)
Facing up...

So no chance of damage under the tray on that side.
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Please let us know whether the dealer cooperates or not.

No not at all have basically told me to f off ford australia says it came with a brand new one from factory and McInerneys in morley are saying that they want nothing to do with it basically. so i have a stuffed/damaged rim and a ****** tyre that they wont do anything about so im going to be seeking legal advice tomorrow.
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that`s a poor show on their part, not much goodwill from this mob for the cost of a wheel.
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I had a similar problem when I bought a new Ford several years ago. When the car was about 6 months old I got a flat and when I went to change it I discovered the spare was also flat.

Anyways I take both wheels to a tyre shop and it turns out the so called "brand new' spare had sidewall damage that could not be repaired and I had to foot the bill for a new tyre. The dealer didnt want a bar of it.
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Sorry to hear man
thanks seen u this morning u where turning onto leach i was going down tonkin drop ute off around 715ish
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