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Old 23-01-2007, 08:27 PM   #1
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Question WTF !!! VE Wheels Car Of The Year !!!!

HOLDEN'S billion-dollar baby, the VE Commodore, has been named the Wheels Car of the Year for 2006.

The Australian-made car was judged top in a field of 21 vehicles, drawing special praise for its body strength, aerodynamics, handling and its electronic driver aids.

"Every model in the VE range shares the same excellent key core attributes. These provided the foundation for Holden's victory," Wheels editor Ged Bulmer said as he announced the winner in Melbourne tonight.

"There is no such thing as the perfect car – but the Holden VE Commodore's strengths significantly outweigh any weaknesses, putting it ahead of its rivals."

This year, Wheels' team of nine judges tested 50 variants of the 21 new vehicles short-listed for the award which was established in 1962.

Each car was put through six days of rigorous testing and trails.

"Eight models from the Holden VE Commodore range were tested and it's not easy for such an extended line-up to win the coveted trophy," Mr Bulmer said.

The 21 nominees for the award also included the Holden Captiva and the WM Statesman / Caprice.

The other nominees were the Alfa Romeo 159, BMW 3 Series Coupe, Honda Civic, Hyundai Elantra and Santa Fe, Mazda CX-7, Mitsubishi Colt and Outlander, Toyota Camry, Rav4 and Aurion, Audi Q7 and TT, Mercedes Benz S-Class, Porsche Cayman, Volkswagen Passat and the Volvo C70.

The VE Commodore was designed in Australia at a cost of $1.2 billion, and unveiled in July last year.

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Old 23-01-2007, 08:29 PM   #2
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Old 23-01-2007, 08:29 PM   #3
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"Holden means a great deal to Wheels" To resite a famous qoute
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Old 23-01-2007, 08:30 PM   #4
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No surprises there. Every all new Commodore has taken out the award.
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Well done Holden.
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Old 23-01-2007, 08:34 PM   #6
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Whats the problem ?? FORD need to get their act together, ASAP !!!!!!
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Old 23-01-2007, 08:34 PM   #7
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Its the way holden have to keep aiming.

Like mooney said..".We designed, engineered and manufactured this range to meet world class standards and to be able to compete against some of the most expensive and most carefully crafted cars around the world."

Think we finally showed GM Headquarters that we are capable of such high quality product.

Great work GMH OZ!
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Old 23-01-2007, 08:36 PM   #8
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Yeap, the VE is better than a 3 series coupe...sure....lets just ignore the fact that fuel consumption is equal, if not worse than before, that there is no great improvement on the VZ, and that the only new thing to the series is the MRC, and what percentage of the total sales will include that?!

I look forward to reading how the fudge they came up with that, perhaps it will be my last wheels purchase.
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Its the way holden have to keep aiming.

Like mooney said..".We designed, engineered and manufactured this range to meet world class standards and to be able to compete against some of the most expensive and most carefully crafted cars around the world."

Think we finally showed GM Headquarters that we are capable of such high quality product.

Great work GMH OZ!
Didnt HSV wanna take their fight to 'world' aswell, thats right they did and got : by the mighty Audi RS4 any many more including FPV out of the 3 finalist i think the beamer should have won
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I look forward to reading how the fudge they came up with that, perhaps it will be my last wheels purchase.
Must have been the optional combination remote cigarette lighter and BBQ starter, or Rick Kelly signature series push bar that did it
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Just ask the guys at work (who have many probs with their VE's) if it deserves it. No doubt VE has many pluses. But one important factor for owners/users is that their car doesn't spend too much time in the service department.

Will Wheels regret this like they regretted awarding VN? Only time will tell.
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Whats the problem ?? FORD need to get their act together, ASAP !!!!!!
why is that

they won it two years in a row iirc or was that a different award
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Old 23-01-2007, 08:52 PM   #13
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thats crap. the bf2 falcon is better.
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Old 23-01-2007, 08:52 PM   #14
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Well done, VE. Finally caught up with the BA of 2002. This proves it.
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What a load of ****, it's the ugliest they have built yet but im sure outdo themselves again........
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Whats the problem ?? FORD need to get their act together, ASAP !!!!!!
Yeah i know they NEVER release new cars do they!

Every time Holden does something everyone says ford are slow and hopeless. and vice versa.
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Oh! im suprised... but...how come? I dont understand.
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What a load of ****, it's the ugliest they have built yet but im sure outdo themselves again........
You're not wrong about it being ugly and without being biased, its quite a poor effort.... maybe they should go back to using something designed overseas.
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Old 23-01-2007, 09:13 PM   #21
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Stop being so surprised.

The VE was always going to win.
Holden have a huge bandwagon following and with a big VE on the front cover, they'll sell more mags to the people who actually think the VE is the greatest car in the world, while apparently the BFII is a piece of ****.

I'll let the fools think what they want. I'd rather know the truth.
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You're not wrong about it being ugly and without being biased, its quite a poor effort.... maybe they should go back to using something designed overseas.
It looks like it was, my girlfriend isn't really into cars but the first time she saw one it was basically WTF is that!
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Old 23-01-2007, 09:23 PM   #23
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It looks like it was, my girlfriend isn't really into cars but the first time she saw one it was basically WTF is that!
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Good for Holden !!!!
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Old 23-01-2007, 09:29 PM   #26
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And if it didn't you would all be rabbiting on "crap VE, didn't get COTY".

BA got COTY in 2002, Territory in 2004 what is your problem.
The BF2 was inelegible as it was not a new model, just a permutation of the BA.

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This is the way of things........
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Always going to happen.
But seriously, the standard 'poverty pack' VE has got the be one of the ugliest cars going at the moment.
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Old 23-01-2007, 09:36 PM   #28
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Not the least bit surprised.
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Stop being so surprised.

The VE was always going to win.
Holden have a huge bandwagon following and with a big VE on the front cover, they'll sell more mags to the people who actually think the VE is the greatest car in the world, while apparently the BFII is a piece of ****.

I'll let the fools think what they want. I'd rather know the truth.
couldnt have said it better myself wheels car mag are totally holden biased. and while im on that subject so is Smithy from the cars guide in the Herald Sun. they have to be getting kick backs!
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Good on them for winning it.

At least the Aurion didnt get it
Have to be grateful for that.
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