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20-08-2008, 05:15 PM | #31 | |||
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Lol, now they tell us.
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20-08-2008, 06:12 PM | #32 | ||
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Lowering speed limits just promotes road rage. People get impatient and try to pass other people obeying rediculously low speed limits. Then they crash and have their accident labelled as a "speeding accident". So what happens now? They lower the %^*((&^%$ speed limit again and it just gets worse. WAKE UP!
It always amazes me when they say women are the safest drivers based on how many accidents they have. How many accidents they actually 'CAUSE" is what it's all about. Problem is its hard to tally these incidents. |
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20-08-2008, 06:19 PM | #33 | ||||
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Also see: http://www.roadwatch.com.au/forum/fo...s.asp?TID=1078 Quote:
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20-08-2008, 06:24 PM | #34 | ||
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Theres a section of highway here in tassie thats currently 70kmph, it runs near a school but isn't the actual road that the school is on, therefore doing 70 is safe, but they want to make it 50k an hour!, now during peak hour traffic the 70 limit is almost impossible to stick to but making it 50 would just casue more people to get fined, and slow traffic to much! :
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20-08-2008, 06:40 PM | #35 | |||
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They had it on Channel 7 news just then, along with female drivers also causing more accidents than before. Has to be an insurance company however (AAMI) who reveals this fact. |
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20-08-2008, 06:51 PM | #36 | ||
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They've now got the whole Bolte bridge and a section before it heading toward the Westgate Freeway at 80 kph instead of the 100 it was previously.
Admittedly there are roadworks happening along the Westgate freeway but that is a long way past this zone where conditions are unchanged. Anyone travelling at 80kph would actually possibly cause a serious accident, not the majority of car and truck drivers going faster, but the authorities would say otherwise despite the speed restriction being totally unreasonable. I believe also that most drivers exceed the speed limit mainly for safety concerns if they travelled slower. |
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20-08-2008, 06:55 PM | #37 | ||
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Yes it is a very scary day when you are relying on insurance companies for the truth :
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20-08-2008, 07:09 PM | #38 | |||
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They also reduced a good section of the Calder Freeway, past Keilor Downs to 80kph. Their reason was: "to alleviate traffic congestion". Yeah right :
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The road safety campaign is really working eh?
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20-08-2008, 07:20 PM | #41 | |||
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20-08-2008, 08:08 PM | #42 | |||
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Is it? I usually blast off up the Footscray Rd on-ramp to the top of 3rd gear then back off for the turn onto Westgate Fwy
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20-08-2008, 08:23 PM | #43 | |||
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I guess the getaway in stockholm movies did the damage.
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20-08-2008, 08:42 PM | #44 | ||
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Even if the speed limit were 30km/h, I would not obey it :
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20-08-2008, 08:52 PM | #45 | ||
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So in the governments eyes, if someone gets shot and dies, then its the speed of the bullets fault? Not the psycho shooting the thing?
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20-08-2008, 09:03 PM | #46 | ||
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? There is no logic, every year new cars come out, improved performance, 1st gear 90 kph plus rady rady and at the same with each car improvement there is a speed reduction.
why the improvements ? we can only use half a cylinder and half a gear |
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20-08-2008, 09:31 PM | #47 | |||
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This has been raised with the school and the management refuse to do anything about it. |
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20-08-2008, 09:42 PM | #48 | ||
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For the 6 weeks just near my work there doing road works where there putting a new housing estate in, for 2 km they've dropped it to 60km 24/7 & sometimes they even drop it to 40km whether there working or not & the cops are patrolling it. Its so hard to do these speeds when no ones there working :(
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20-08-2008, 09:52 PM | #49 | |||
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Less concentration on the traffic and more on your speedo and the signs. Naughty. |
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21-08-2008, 02:58 AM | #50 | ||
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30km/hr? Great! I'm going to have to drive with my foot on the brake rather then accelerator. Auto almost goes faster then 30km/hr in D!
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21-08-2008, 03:33 AM | #51 | ||
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Reduce the flow rate -> Increase the Congestion.
Im sure they will realise that the revenue lost due to longer delivery times, travel, congestion.. will far outweigh the revenue gained by a few extra snap shots. All about the $$.
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21-08-2008, 05:51 PM | #52 | |||
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21-08-2008, 06:19 PM | #53 | ||
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the way i see it. if someone is going to speed, like to 150kph down an urban street then it dosnt matter if they lower the limit from 50 to 30. they are still going to speed.
all it is, in my opinion, is revenue rasing for the governmet from people doing 5kph over. just another quick fix which pi$$es off motorists
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21-08-2008, 06:37 PM | #54 | |||
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The section Bobman mentions outbound is between before Keilor Park Drive on ramp and Melton Hwy that is now three lanes, and also inbound from Green Gully Rd on ramp to the Keilor Park Drive on ramp, which is also now three lanes. There are no intersecting roads on the right side of these new 80kph sections. When they opened these 3 lanes a few months ago, they reduced the speed limit to 80kph saying it makes the traffic flow better. The reverse is actually true by experience driving everyday on these roads where speed limits are reduced, it would actually cause congestion, if everyone obeyed the 80 kph limit. Its a farce. I think the real reason for reducing the limit is that the emergency lane both ways have now been made the third lane, so there is now no emergency lanes along these stretches. The cheap way again of a half baked solution to the Calder "Highway" continuing shemozzle. |
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21-08-2008, 10:10 PM | #55 | ||
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I wouldn't mind taking Harold Scruby and a few other twits from Monash for a tour of outback WA they can look at the roads and speed limits.
Can finish the tourer off with a close look at some abandon mine shaft's out the back of a adequateness Station or my mates old man's got a real neat well he's always telling his daughters boyfriend about LMAO.
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22-08-2008, 07:50 AM | #56 | |||
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Now if you were to look at the big picture, posted speed isn't based on the cars we drive, it's a little on driver ability and mostly road condition. Have a look at the uneven roads we have to drive on, no wonder they keep lowing the speed.
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22-08-2008, 10:23 AM | #57 | |||
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Why is a single lane highway outside Melbourne a 110 zone where I have to contend with bush like roads, where the whole area stretching from the Burnley Tunnel to the West Gate bridge (a 4 or 5 highway) is all 80? Oh that's right, it got brought down due to a crash in the tunnel, so they just lowered the speed limits of all nearby roads, whilst leaving the tunnel in questions speed untouched. All of this despite the fact that speed had nothing to do with the crash. We need to vote this Vic Labor govt out. Bunch of friggin nit wits. |
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22-08-2008, 03:58 PM | #58 | ||
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Thanks for the clarification Silver Ghia - I hope that change has happened since last time I was out that way! More likely I would have just thought the limit was dropped for roadworks...
Shounak - I see it as the 80km/h zone is because people can't merge & change lanes properly or with courtesy and impacting on the logjam created with traffic getting on and off the Bolte bridge, Kingsway and the tunnel within such a short stretch. I don't really care that it is 80, it only adds perhaps a minute to the trip after all, I only wish that proper driver education was introduced. |
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