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I never said it's the only yard stick. Only that it is relevant for a real world comparison.
You're just not happy with it because most rice burners will smoke your taxi.
You seem to be trying to get a response from me because my taxi is slow ? which i fully admitted from the very first post, yes i know a camry with a flat tyre or hundai getz even without the canon tip would probably smoke my old taxi, no dispute from me,
however i still stick to my original opinion , that 0 to a hundred k`s is very much only half a performance comparison and at times quite misleading when looking at the full quarter or performance in top end.
I will leave it there .
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I think you'd have the Getz covered. No so sure about the Camry sadly.
I think 0-100 is the most relevant comparison because I'm generally not accelerating past that speed and 0-100 gives you a good feel of how the car runs. I've driven thousands of cars and in 99.9% of cars the parties over at 100km/h.
But I haven't driven a super or hyper car.
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I think you'd have the Getz covered. No so sure about the Camry sadly.
I think 0-100 is the most relevant comparison because I'm generally not accelerating past that speed and 0-100 gives you a good feel of how the car runs. I've driven thousands of cars and in 99.9% of cars the parties over at 100km/h.
But I haven't driven a super or hyper car.
Im glad 0 to a hundred is relevant to you.
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I think you'd have the Getz covered. No so sure about the Camry sadly.
I think 0-100 is the most relevant comparison because I'm generally not accelerating past that speed and 0-100 gives you a good feel of how the car runs. I've driven thousands of cars and in 99.9% of cars the parties over at 100km/h.
But I haven't driven a super or hyper car.
you need to get out more

or drive another thousands cars
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Errrr....

Tesla Model "S".

proven to be the fastest car available in Australia in 0-100 km/h standing start.

Forget 4 seconds, try 3.2.

Everything else looks stupidly slow.

Yes..0-100 very relevant to those who don't do 200km/h in public streets.


You will get absolutely flogged by any car ever made or modified by anyone ever in Australia if you line up a Model S Tesla.

Get a professional driver, launch any way you want...my grandma could beat any HSV/FPV blah blah is she were driving the "S".

And...recently flogged the SuperCheap auto V8 supercar in a journo day.



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Tesla Model "S".

proven to be the fastest car available in Australia in 0-100 km/h standing start.

Forget 4 seconds, try 3.2.
3.2 thats cute.

Not even close to the fastest in aussie. The nismo GTR is pretty close to the 2 second mark and the standard GTR usually comes in at 2.6-2.8 which is just under 3 seconds by the way.

And it uses gas .

Plus its almost at the end of its model run
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3.2 thats cute.

Not even close to the fastest in aussie. The nismo GTR is pretty close to the 2 second mark and the standard GTR usually comes in at 2.6-2.8 which is just under 3 seconds by the way.

And it uses gas .

Cant wait for next gen GTR 3.0 TT with electric assist.

No it doesn't do that to 100km/h (60mph)...its 4km/h shy off the mark.

Makes it same as the Tesla.
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No it doesn't do that to 100km/h (60mph)...its 4km/h shy off the mark.

Makes it same as the Tesla.
does tesla crack 200
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Take the software limiter off and it will keep going until it achieves escape velocity of gravity.

Imagine going across Melbourne with 20 traffic lights...and imagine being flogged...absolutely...convincingly...embarassingl y.. in your V8...trying desperately to keep up...revving the crap out of it and dropping the clutch...frying the tyres...trying to get close enough to call it a contest.

Then imagine it's my grandma driving the Tesla smiling at you...especially with her white bowling hat on the parcel shelf?


It's a brave new world for performance cars.
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the thread title says 0-100km/h mate.
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Errrr....

Tesla Model "S".

proven to be the fastest car available in Australia in 0-100 km/h standing start.

Forget 4 seconds, try 3.2.

Everything else looks stupidly slow.

Yes..0-100 very relevant to those who don't do 200km/h in public streets.


You will get absolutely flogged by any car ever made or modified by anyone ever in Australia if you line up a Model S Tesla.

Get a professional driver, launch any way you want...my grandma could beat a HSV/FPV blah blah is she were driving the "S".
who said anything about public streets

yo tesla runs out of puff

puff

yo magic electric dragoon
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cool ninja edit

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Errrr....

Tesla Model "S".

proven to be the fastest car available in Australia in 0-100 km/h standing start.

Forget 4 seconds, try 3.2.

Everything else looks stupidly slow.

Yes..0-100 very relevant to those who don't do 200km/h in public streets.


You will get absolutely flogged by any car ever made or modified by anyone ever in Australia if you line up a Model S Tesla.

Get a professional driver, launch any way you want...my grandma could beat any HSV/FPV blah blah is she were driving the "S".

And...recently flogged the SuperCheap auto V8 supercar in a journo day.



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See Zilo- your original post did not respond to the OP's question, "0-100 what is considered fast." The question was not- "0-100 what is considered stupidly slow".

But anyway, putting aside your initial inflammatory response, there is no doubt electric cars have virtues. Mines use electric engines in their most massive equipment because of the incredible instant torque, and the Tesla is very quick in acceleration.

But to some there is a visceral auditory component to driving. When I want to really have fun, I switch bimodal off, and drive with all 4 windows open, for the sound. I love the 6 speed gearbox and the noises and vibrations/senses that are tickled when heel and towing the gearbox down, with the auditory cackle on overrun, and the insane feral howl when allowing the Miami fully off the leash.

Yeah- the Tesla may be faster, but is it more fun to drive? Bit like having sex deaf, with a layer of cushioning rubber covering you everywhere to not feel the vibrations, and being limited to 1 minute before being shut down.

A pilot who flew jet airliners said he preferred flying small planes with props as it was real flying, shakes, wobbles- you feel things. One of the most fun cars I have ever driven was my Ford Cortina Mk 11 GT with 1600 - two 40dcoe side draught webbers with trumpets and socks - it was like playing a musical coughing instrument - only just cracked below 9 secs into the high 8 secs 0-100 , but that did not matter- instant horn driving it.

And then of course- putting aside lack of sound and playing a gearbox innately connected with a musical engine, there is another problem. Three months ago buying a new aircon, in a factory next door (solar panel factory) was this open wheeler single seat square race car. I walk in, wanting to see what engine it had, thinking it would be a small block v8. Then had an interesting chat with the owner, was an electric race car, had competed in a division with petrol engine v8's, and had flogged the petrol competition. The petrol guys then increased race distance from some 8 laps to 20 laps, which meant that their race car could not compete and was now redundant.

Discussed about whether it could do a lap around Bathurst, and he conceded it probably could not, not the range, although he then pondered it may eek out 1 lap...poor guy was bit downcast - his machine was effectively impotent ......

Anyway- what I am saying is no issue appreciating the virtues of electric, but no need to be insulting of petrol motors and their virtues.

Perhaps for you to fully appreciate what I am saying, is for me to suggest you perhaps ditch that turbo Mitsubishi (which honestly sounds like a boring low voltage vacuum cleaner)- and get into a petrol car with a high powered v8 that has real acceleration with a soundtrack to match, you may then understand what I am trying to say.

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See Zilo- your original post did not respond to the OP's question, "0-100 what is considered fast." The question was not- "0-100 what is considered stupidly slow".
Obviously you spend too much time with self adoration of your own vocabulary instead of actual comprehension.

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Yeah- the Tesla may be faster,..... Bit like having sex deaf, with a layer of cushioning rubber covering you everywhere to not feel the vibrations, and being limited to 1 minute before being shut down.
As soon as you started disclosing your sexual perversions I switched off mate....and put you in the nutters corner.

Clearly you haven't driven a Tesla and like the other threatened grease monkeys in this thread you feel threatened then resorting to personal attacks etc.

What a thread full of little children.
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Obviously you spend too much time with self adoration of your own vocabulary instead of actual comprehension.
No- just self employed professional who is paid for the written and oral language that I use on a daily basis, the better the language generally the better fee I get. And at my stage of life, - I have progressed beyond that stage where one feels impelled to dumb oneself down in terms of intellect so as to fit in.

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As soon as you started disclosing your sexual perversions I switched off mate....and put you in the nutters corner.
I would not have thought enjoyment of sound during such activity constitutes peversion, rather an enjoyment of a natural element of the activity that leads to human creation- but what is one mans normal is anothers peversion it would seem....

[QUOTE=zilo;5518205] What a thread full of little children. [ /QUOTE]

Yes, my wife always says I am still a little boy - so you got me, but why cannot you seem to acknowledge that an electric car does not provide that sound delight factor and delight of sensations with a gearbox and clutch.

Surely you must concede that these elements are missing with an electric car and that a lot of people find these elements fun?
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Surely you must concede that these elements are missing with an electric car and that a lot of people find these elements fun?
Noise, vibrations and sexual metaphor don't really fit in with the thread title now do they?

As a professional writer/orator surely you took basic classes in clear thinking and staying on topic without resorting to personal attacks to bond with your audience?

Or maybe you just felt a compulsion to fit in.
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Okay. Data logged for you first link.

https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&so...5alLnSWPPyR5BQ

The nismo model makes it look even more stupid let alone the 3.0 v6 electric assist GTR we shall see in the update.

The tesla is damn quick and they are alright seen a heap in the states when I was over there but definitely not the fastest car in Aussie.
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I don't expect everyone to have a worked motor so to me sub 7 seconds is fast to me, 5 seconds is what I would expect from my race cars
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That's because 0-100 is a serious subject where no-one can afford to be a fence sitter.

Hulk let us all in on that secret with his revelation on the previously unknown Aurion performance credentials.

Plus the thread has lost track.

The question was what do you consider to be a quick 0-100?

Not is a quick 0-100 the only means to determine you have a quick car.




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That's because 0-100 is a serious subject where no-one can afford to be a fence sitter.

Hulk let us all in on that secret with his revelation on the previously unknown Aurion performance credentials.

Plus the thread has lost track.

The question was what do you consider to be a quick 0-100?

Not is a quick 0-100 the only means to determine you have a quick car.




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My old car did 0-170kph in about 7 seconds. At a guess, I would say that it would do a 2.8-3.0 0-100 time. Pretty quick...
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I think realistically based on what your average aussie can actually afford to drive, anything under 5s in a rear wheel drive is fast.
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I think realistically based on what your average aussie can actually afford to drive, anything under 5s in a rear wheel drive is fast.
very fair comment i think, and fast is a subjective thing , a lot of cars on the road feel really really fast , even though a lot of that feeling is trying to hang on to it due to very average road dynamics.
my mums old series 3 nissan bluebird felt horrifyingly fast due to the scary road dynamics at anything involving speed above 40 kph and steering input ; ).
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Is 0-157kmh in 5.8 seconds ok ?
Don't have a 0-100 haha
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Is that your car bro? Na you just a punter test driving.

Weve all seen your car, which is a fraction of the speed of a car you DONT have
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Is that your car bro? Na you just a punter test driving.

Weve all seen your car, which is a fraction of the speed of a car you DONT have

You fool, I also own a Nissan GTR and a Mercedes AMG wagon.

Oh yeah...you own a Falcon taxi.....
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