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Now drifting a falcon
Join Date: Apr 2006
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anyone have any idea how these two cars will go against each other in a drag, no biased comments, i no some mr2 can break a high 13, so yeh im actually gettin a mr2 turbo the old eseries v8 is 2 much of a brick but im still a ford boy......
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XR6T will , plainly put... eat you.
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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xr6t will demolish the mr2 although they may be light weight the xr turbo has heaps better torque. looks cooler to
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Is there many Turbo jap cars that can keep up with one, excluding the over done big dollar ones??
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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No hope whatsoever.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Canberra Region
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Are both stock? I reckon it will be pretty close. At best the XR6T will run high 13s@100mph, exactly the same as an MR2 Turbo.
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Beaumont Hills
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Stock for stock the XR6T will come out on top not by heaps, but it will.
The MR2's do go well though, handle awesome, and have plenty of potential. |
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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WTF? There's really not much in it. The late model MR2's are a strong base which you can improve upon. Toyota make bulletproof cars with a build quality Ford and Holden are yet to equal. Not suprising really when you realise they sell many many more cars than the aussie manufacturers. They'll use less fuel and wave everything goodbye at the first sign of a corner. But they have absolutely NO room inside. Like... none at all. And having driven a peaky 11 sec model myself you need to be quick when the mid mount chassis steps out.
I wouldn't reccomend upping the power until you know what it'll do when you get it all wrong. |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Pakenham, Victoria
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I'm still a member of a car club where they worship MR2's. They'll run mid to high 14's with mild work. Start going nuts and they hit 12/13sec pass's.
In I recall ran 13.2 allegedly. It had been running 14.0's all night and as soon I we leave it runs a 13.2???? The owner stetched the truth all the time. At the time the XB was running 13.2's and his MR2 couldn't even get close apart from launch. The XR6T will whoop some butt.
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Shoot.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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http://www.dragtimes.com/Toyota-MR2-Timeslip-5486.html
1/4mile times listed here, a few relatively stock ones run mid 13s (like an air filter or exhaust) to mid 12s with more boost, all the way to 11s with engine internals and bigger turbo.
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E-Series Member
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Melbourne
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Here's my mates mildly worked MR2.. his never run it but i reckon it'll be in the mid 13's. So he would probably beat stock xr6T's thats about it though. I think it's a nice looking car, and i'd prefer it over the newer shape without a doubt.
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Melton South, Moderator: ORSM Club
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Too many variables to predict, but my money is on the T.
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Fordless
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sydney
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It depends on the mods to each car but all things being equal a XR6 T will eat a MR2 in straight line performance & handling.
At 8/10s the series 2 MR2s handle fine but ask anyone who was involved in trying to race one if you go past that they’re dreadful which is a shame as the first ones were brilliant just underpowered & ugly. It’s a fairly common Toyota thing they just have very poor chassis design which means they can’t be fixed no matter what shocks, springs, bars etc you throw at it. They do look really nice tho unlike the first & last generations. |
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Now drifting a falcon
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Albany Western Australia
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ok but yeh i sorta looked it up ey and it said a xr6 turbo will run round 14.3? and ive seen stock mr2 turbos run 14 flats.......... yeh the xr6 turbo has more torque but yeh im talking both manual both stock and the mr2 would be a 98 model mr2 turbo if that helps.........
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More Power, Bigger turbo
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Liverpool, Sydney
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Ok, for the fact, a stock XR6t manual, with no mods at all will do 13.43 to 13.86 1/4 mile times. Depending on drivers. MR2's higher 13's to 14's.
To get 10s from an MR2 is next to buying a brand new XR6T. with the money saved on making a quick MR2 its better off buying the "T", you'll have more room the which the MR2 hasnt, the motor is more user friendly ie:no need to rev the hell out of it to make it go and being a local built car parts are cheaper and easier to source. Most of all, you cant beat big displacement with a GT35/40 turbo hanging off the side off a 4.0 litre. I've shamed so many R33's, wrx's,200sx's so on, with my stock as balls XR6t. And its so easy to get a healthy 280rwkws for less than 5 grand.
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Now drifting a falcon
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Albany Western Australia
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k lol some one anwered my question lol thanks for that but yeh wen i can get a 1998 mr2 turbo fro 12k and spend 18 grand on it (how much i can get the ford for in my town) and yeh i could safely say it would eat the ford no wories but that isnt the point. how bout round the track?
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Merry Xmas To All
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Melton South, Moderator: ORSM Club
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They are two totally different driving style cars... In a straight line, the T's a far better option, and far more comfortable. Mine is a mid 12's. If you want to do track work, the MR2 will outrun the heavier T on a tight circuit in most cases. You have to decide what you prefer. It's all personal after the facts are layed out.
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Now drifting a falcon
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Albany Western Australia
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well im lookin for sumtin that will do well in a straight but i want handling........ i wanna do rally motorkana type things ay, thats what im after
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Merry Xmas To All
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Melton South, Moderator: ORSM Club
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Rally? Motorkana? Forget the T and the MR2... Go the WRX...
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Now drifting a falcon
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Location: Albany Western Australia
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lol hmmmm cant afford it i didnt mean of road rally btw. ive seen a mr2 beat a wrx round the track head to head..........
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Sydney
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i would say the wrx would be much more stable around a motorkhana. ive never been for a ride in an mr2 but i have in wrx's on many occasions. the wrx has a very nice stiff direct feeling chassis the grip the thing has is unbelievable (taking corners twice as tight with the same speed as my car yet with no tyre squeel or signs of it losing traction. hard in =grip, maintain speed mid corner = more grip, power out = even more grip)
ive been in both a my98 wrx and my02 wrx and both were amazing. the 98 had standard suspension whilst the 02 had been lowered with harder springs and matched shocks. the only downside is the lack of power over a xr6t and also the weak drivetrain. stock vs stock i would put money on a rex over xr6t if you put them on a track
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turboute
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Perth WA
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The new STI's have resolved the drivetrain issue to some degree with stronger gears etc. Problem is now people will want to push them harder and they will find out where the next weak link is. As for an MR2 beating a wrx around a track I would say that that MR2 would have to be decently modified or the WRX driver was useless.
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Now drifting a falcon
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Albany Western Australia
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well there is this clip mr2 vs wrx on skid pan or cones whatever it is...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...x+vs+mr2+turbo |
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