Slow right lane drivers...

[Ives]

So... I know we hate slow drivers driving on the right lane. Now, define "slow"...is it driving at the speed limit? 10kph under? 20kph under? 50kph under?

I was driving AT the speed limit on the left lane and ALOT of car overtook me AGGRESSIVELY. They sure were really ****ed off about something.

So what's "slow". :eclipsee_

[nobbystang]

Slow to me in this instance is not passing a car, driving at the same speed as the car they are trying to pass.

The worst ones out there are the guys and gals that see you coming and pull out to pass just as you get near them, I hate having to turn cruise off just cause some oxygen thief doesn't have common courtesy!!

[70caprigt3k]

I get the same thing, i can be in the right lane overtaking slower traffic in the left lane at say 10km/h over the limit and as soon as a gap opens in the left lane before i get a chance to duck into the gap to let the people pass i get undercut very aggressively it gives me the sht's big time.

To answer your question i don't think it matters what speed you are doing there will always be someone travelling faster than you are.

[XR8-260]

The thing i hate is that left lane drivers drive 10k's below the limit and the right lane drivers drive 10k's above. The problem is that i drive exactly the limit so every time i change lanes to the right i always get tail gaited.

[Falcon Freak]

I hate people who will not move out of the way of faster moving traffic.

FF

[Silver Ghia]

If I'm going at the speed limit plus a bit more to allow for tolerances, and there's slower traffic in the LH lane, I dont move over when I know I'll get trapped in that slower lane. So those behind that want to go well over the speed limit just have to wait.

I only move over if there's no slower traffic in the LH lane that will slow me down.

Also I hate those that overtake me when I'm in the left lane, then cut in straight in front of me leaving no margin. Sometimes they then slow down to the speed limit, so why overtake? They think they're doing the right thing moving over to the left, but really they dont give a stuff about those they've just overtaken.

[ED Classic]

I agree with Falcon Freak.

[ED Classic]

Originally Posted by nobbystang

The worst ones out there are the guys and gals that see you coming and pull out to pass just as you get near them, I hate having to turn cruise off just cause some oxygen thief doesn't have common courtesy!!

That is a **** off alright.

[Sprint_ED]

dont get me started on this subject, if only i had a machine gun mounted on the bonnet

[Silver Ghia]

Originally Posted by Falcon Freak

I hate people who will not move out of the way of faster moving traffic.

FF

Depends how fast the faster moving traffic is going, well over the speed limit? and if theres slower traffic in the left lane.

I hate those that go well over the speed limit and think others going just over the speed limit have to move over into slower traffic, just so they can continue at their excessive speed.

[FRDXR6]

Originally Posted by Falcon Freak

I hate people who will not move out of the way of faster moving traffic.

FF

This ****es me to no end! :

When i drive to Uni along the Monash Freeway (4 lanes each way) i frequently overtake cars in the middle lanes as these knobs just sit in the outside lane motoring along.

The question should not be whats defined as 'slow' for driving in the right lane, it should be WHY do people drive in the right lane. The right lane is for overtaking only doesnt matter if your going the speed limit, faster or slower as long as your overtaking the car in the lane next to you and move over at the first possible chance thats ok.

I do not understand why people sit in the right lane sometimes i come right up their **** with all my front lights on and sit there until they move, dangerous i know but these people need to take a hint.

I lived in the UK last year and drivers over there are at a much higher skill level than in Australia. They are all courteous, they know how to read the traffic and they KEEP LEFT!

[ED Classic]

It is crap when drivers get in front and slow down or cut you off or speed up when you go to pass but its important to remember that as long as you are doing all the right things and sitting in the left unless overtaking etc etc then its their bad driving not yours. I find every situation important to acess and in my biased;) opinion is what makes me a driver who is confident in my actions. One eg is if I am in the left and want to pass a car infront of me its important to look where the car in the right lane is and how fast he/she is coming up before I move into the right. If I can move into the right and am prepared to do atlest the same speed that Ive judged that they are doing then I go, if not I dont. Its like people who pull out on others half the time they think to themselves that car is all the way over there, but the trouble is have they thought, that car is moving so I should be safe and wait? Half the time they havent even thought if they are pulling out into a 60kmh zone or a 100kmh zone.

[XR8-260]

Originally Posted by Silver Ghia

If I'm going at the speed limit plus a bit more to allow for tolerances, and there's slower traffic in the LH lane, I dont move over when I know I'll get trapped in that slower lane. So those behind that want to go well over the speed limit just have to wait.

I only move over if there's no slower traffic in the LH lane that will slow me down.

Also I hate those that overtake me when I'm in the left lane, then cut in straight in front of me leaving no margin. Sometimes they then slow down to the speed limit, so why overtake? They think they're doing the right thing moving over to the left, but really they dont give a stuff about those they've just overtaken.

I agree with you brother...

I hate it when I drving at the speed limit in the left lane and some punk behind me overtakes, cuts straight in front of me and then turns left immediately after overtaking me. It's like: what's the point of overtaking me when you have to turn left anyway?

[MRJUCY]

It's illegal to drive unless overtaking in the right hand lane if the speed limit is 80km/h or above it doesn't matter what speed the car is actually doing it's either overtaking or move back over.

[XR8GRL]

Originally Posted by HyperKid

So... I know we hate slow drivers driving on the right lane. Now, define "slow"...is it driving at the speed limit? 10kph under? 20kph under? 50kph under?

I was driving AT the speed limit on the left lane and ALOT of car overtook me AGGRESSIVELY. They sure were really ****ed off about something.

So what's "slow". :eclipsee_

The slow I hate dealing with is those sitting on 60 in the right in a 80 zone and those sitting on 70 to 80 on the freeway on the right.
I wish they would learn to keep left.

It's also annoying when they do this and you cannot overtake the person infront in the left lane.

[Keepleft]

Driving on a freeway or motorway - lane discipline, see page 92 of this NSW handbook, Pdf 2.92mb.
http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/licensing/...uh_english.pdf

[CaRtZ]

remember in VIC u can legally sit where u like (left or right) upto and including 80km/h.... i drive the limit and also hate the tailgating when i change into the right... so i slow to 5km under!

[Van D]

In my eyes, if you're in the right lane doing the speed limit or a bit more, it's fine and you shouldn't have to move. If people are doing stupid speeds behind me whilst i'm a bit over the speed limit in the right lane, i'll stay there and let them sort it out.

I hate people who go in the right lane though, and go as slow as the guy in the left and just hold EVERYTHING up. I also hate it when some go slow in the right lane and you end up having to weave through all sorts of traffic to get some space and look like a hoon in the process, when you only want to go the speed limit.

[LTDHO]

Being that the right lane is for passing/overtaking only, then any speed is to slow.

By rights you should only ever be in the right lane to pass, then move over, as not to hold up other traffic.

[XR8GRL]

Originally Posted by CaRtZ

remember in VIC u can legally sit where u like (left or right) upto and including 80km/h....

and I personally think it's wrong, frustrating, annoying, etc....

[Van D]

Originally Posted by LTDHO

Being that the right lane is for passing/overtaking only, then any speed is to slow.

By rights you should only ever be in the right lane to pass, then move over, as not to hold up other traffic.

What about freeways etc?

But also in busy traffic, it's easier and lets everything flow better if you just stay in one lane at a good speed for each IMO.

[JC]

Originally Posted by CaRtZ

remember in VIC u can legally sit where u like (left or right) upto and including 80km/h....

Originally Posted by XR8GRL

and I personally think it's wrong, frustrating, annoying, etc....

100% right. Not to mention inconsiderate, dangerous (people 2 kms behind you WILL be fuming), inconsiderate, selfish, inconsiderate, rude, selfish, inconsiderate, and finally, it shows you have no regard for anyone on the road other than yourself. It is this sort of behaviour that leads to accidents, even if you don't cause them directly, you test the frustration levels of every other driver on the road, and eventually someone will crack.

[XR8GRL]

Originally Posted by JC

100% right. Not to mention inconsiderate, dangerous (people 2 kms behind you WILL be fuming), inconsiderate, selfish, inconsiderate, rude, selfish, inconsiderate, and finally, it shows you have no regard for anyone on the road other than yourself. It is this sort of behaviour that leads to accidents, even if you don't cause them directly, you test the frustration levels of every other driver on the road, and eventually someone will crack.

Exactly.

Just last weekend I almost cracked, having to put up with an old man sitting on the right lane doing 50 to 60 in a 80 zone. I couldn't overtake him because I was stuck with the driver on the left just sitting there. I wasn't tailgating the old man or being stupid, but if I got a little closer he would slam on his brakes. What am I to do? I was fuming. During the week I'm in the same situation, also finding it hard to overtake from the left due to someone at snail pace on the right. No wonder ambulance drivers and those of us with common sense are so angered.

I would love nothing more than to see the "legally sit where you like (left or right) upto and including 80km/h" law abolished, it's stupid and ridiculous.

[new2ford]

Driver education in this country is appalling. I wonder how many traffic authority testers fail licence applicants for not keeping left? As few as Police who book people for not keeping left I imagine. And how many driving schools teach students to keep left? Not many judging by the number of L platers with instructor alongside hogging the right lane. Authorities don't care and the attitude has spread to the general public.

Too many threads on this already - we've proved beyond doubt that only Ford owners know how to use the road properly. Lets move onto to people who "charge" small roundabouts". Like you're supposed to give way to traffic who get into the roundabout first but some people after all these years still think its a "give way to the right" thing or they have a bully attitude and "charge" at a roundabout at such a speed that anybody coming in first on the next entry has to give way to avoid a crash. This is a characteristic of those mini-roundabouts. Its not really possible at a big one. I see it every day.

[JC]

Originally Posted by XR8GRL

Exactly.

Just last weekend I almost cracked, having to put up with an old man sitting on the right lane doing 50 to 60 in a 80 zone. I couldn't overtake him because I was stuck with the driver on the left just sitting there. I wasn't tailgating the old man or being stupid, but if I got a little closer he would slam on his brakes. What am I to do? I was fuming. During the week I'm in the same situation, also finding it hard to overtake from the left due to someone at snail pace on the right. No wonder ambulance drivers and those of us with common sense are so angered.

I would love nothing more than to see the "legally sit where you like (left or right) upto and including 80km/h" law abolished, it's stupid and ridiculous.

There's something you can do - well at least something I do. Use your horn and lights. Flash 'em, toot 'em, and flash 'em a bit more. Keep tooting (the horn is a really great move over or get out of my way device). If they hi9t the brakes to slow down, then you will be ready for it, so keep it up (the tooting and flashing) to make sure they really slow down, then nip in the left, stand on the gas (helps that I have a V8) and pull over to the right in front of the old man. I use this tactic at least twice a week. I don't class it as road rage, as I am not getting mad at anyone, just manipulating them to get around them. I'm not saying this is for everyone, but it certainly works for me - plus I have a 3 battery D cell maglite next to my seat if the loser decides to do something about it at the next set of lights, or what-have-you. If enough of these idiots cop this treatment daily, they WILL eventually get the message and just stick to the left.

[Falcon Freak]

Originally Posted by Silver Ghia

Depends how fast the faster moving traffic is going, well over the speed limit? and if theres slower traffic in the left lane.

I hate those that go well over the speed limit and think others going just over the speed limit have to move over into slower traffic, just so they can continue at their excessive speed.

I also hate people who want to dictate to me what speed I can drive at. I will drive at the speed I choose to and only the law will have any inffluence upon that.

The law states "keep left unless overtaking". The law does not state "keep left unless overtaking but you do not have to move if you are doing the speed limit".

It never ceases to amaze me that the far left lane on the freeway is often the best lane to use because nobody wants to keep left!

FF

[pb02]

Originally Posted by Falcon Freak

I also hate people who want to dictate to me what speed I can drive at. I will drive at the speed I choose to and only the law will have any inffluence upon that.

The law states "keep left unless overtaking". The law does not state "keep left unless overtaking but you do not have to move if you are doing the speed limit".

It never ceases to amaze me that the far left lane on the freeway is often the best lane to use because nobody wants to keep left!

FF

I agree 100%!

Some people think that because they do the speed limit or even a little over they can stay in the right lane. You don't know the reason behind other peoples speed, so regardless of how fast you are going, "keep left unless overtaking".

[MITCHAY]

Anything under the speed limit is too slow. **** off to the left lane if you are too uncomfortable doing the speed limit.

Also hate people who do under the speed limit in single lanes.
Usually I overtake them but in peakhour traffic it is near impossible or very dangerous at that.

Oh and spot on Falcon Freak!

[XR8-260]

I reckon that we should be able to travel in either lane to keep traffic free flowing. Also if you're in the right lane and travelling a bit over the speed limit (within the police tolerance) then you shouldn't have to move. People who get angry should realize that they shouldn't be speeding in the first place. Whenever people 'tailgaite' me i slow down even more just to **** em' off.

[pb02]

Originally Posted by 30487256

I reckon that we should be able to travel in either lane to keep traffic free flowing. Also if you're in the right lane and travelling a bit over the speed limit (within the police tolerance) then you shouldn't have to move. People who get angry should realize that they shouldn't be speeding in the first place. Whenever people 'tailgaite' me i slow down even more just to **** em' off.

: This is the kind of attitude that pi$$es me off.....

Ever stop to think that maybe the person speeding is trying to get to an emergerncy???? You could pull over and let them through but no, since when has it been your job to dictate who goes what speed? The LAW states, keep left unless overtaking... it's also common courtesy...

Give other people the benefit of the doubt. Maybe the are in a hurry for a reason, pregnant wife, sick family member etc.