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Ford drivers take the chequered flag –away from the race track With Australian motor racing’s biggest rivalry to be fought out again at this weekend’s Bathurst 1000, new research has found that, away from Mount Panorama at least, Ford drivers have an edge over the Holden counterparts. Research from leading Australian insurer Suncorp has found that Ford drivers have around six percent fewer accidents than Holden drivers, whilst the average cost of their accidents was also marginally less. This trend was evident in all age groups with Holden drivers under the age of 25 most likely to have an accident and Ford drivers between 56 and 70 years of age least likely to tangle with another car. Daniel Fogarty, Suncorp’s general manager for motor insurance, said the claims data clearly showed Ford drivers were generally safer than those at the wheel of Holdens. “Our claims data showed that, over the last two years, Ford drivers had 6 percent fewer accidents than Holden drivers and, on average, it cost less to repair the damage caused in these accidents.” “We believe one of the main reasons for this, is that it is a reflection of the fact that Holden drivers typically do more miles than Ford drivers. Holden drivers are therefore statistically more likely to have a higher accident rate.” Suncorp’s claims data showed that drivers of 1986 Holden Commodores should be particularly careful on the road – this model had the highest accident rate at about three time the national average. Mr Fogarty said the huge public interest in the Bathurst 1000 demonstrated that Australia is a nation of car lovers and the rivalry between these two sets of car drivers will run for many years to come. Notes for editors: The table below shows the claims frequency (as a percentage) for Ford and Holden drivers between 1 July 2004 and 31 August 2006. Age of driver Ford drivers claims (%) Holden drivers claims (%) Under 25 years 18.4 20.0 25 – 28 years 16.5 17.1 29 – 35 years 16.4 16.6 36 – 45 years 14.7 15.2 46 – 55 years 13.5 14.0 56 – 70 years 12.4 13.6 71+ years 13.9 14.1 Source http://www.suncorp.com.au/suncorp/news/2006/oct_06.html 6 October 2006
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That is an interesting set of numbers.
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99% of the holden figures are due to the VK-VL-VN-VP-VR/VS-VT idiots
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Intersting fact. Ford driver appear to be around 3% better in most cases.
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have you ever had to drive a commodore ???
i`ve been stuck driving a VZ sedan for 5 weeks for work. it really makes me appreciate my BA UTE. the falcon just feels safer from the time you sit in the drivers seat and the more time i spend in the commo the less i like it.
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I couldn't agree with you more. No wonder Holden getting a bad name when young one get behind the wheel of crappydore. Now you know why Holden introduce the safety stability control to all VE range model. Ford alway had number one rating in Australia family car in crash test rating and commowhore always last. That the fact.
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Whats going to happen when a Young person buys a VE Omega, and throws aftermarket 18" wheels on it, Will that upset the stability control? As that is the main reason that ford wont fit it to the base XT with 16" wheels, the Calibration would be wrong? Go figure....
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For a good part of recent history the Falcon has sold just as well (if not better) to fleets than the Commodore, but really suffered in private sales (mums and dads loved the VT,VX,VY much MUCH more than the AUI,II,II) I guess tho that a 95% of Falcons/Commodores on our roads are now retired from fleets so their milage has nothing to do with business usage Interesting point anyhow |
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"especially 1986 Commodores that are 3 times higher than the national average" ... I am presuming this is the myriad of VL drivers out there with no idea.
Especially all the VL Turbo drivers that love to give it a "dose" (God I hate that term). Uleh Bro. And backing up dave351cid the VZ I drove recently at work felt like a death trap and was just plain unsafe to drive ... I felt so much safer to go back to my AU ute.
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As for preference, I drive vy - vz commodes for work every other day, an yeah I'm always glad to jump back into my ute, but at the same time they're vy acclaims and vz exec, verses a BaII xr6. Not exactly a fair comparison. Except, i guess for the seat-of-the-pants-o-meter. Holden might have a nice V8 (never been in a LS1 powered car), but the V6 IS TRAGIC. ![]()
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Holden drivers do more miles??? I doubt it when most Taxi's are Falcon's, trade based company cars are mostly Falcon Wagon's (used to be true, wasn't for a while but is becoming true again) and I would guess from the amount Falcon Ute's used by Mining & Resources and other industry's such as Electricity & Water that the kilometre's driven would weigh heavily in Ford drivers odometers.
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Of all the courier driver's out there I see .... it's either LPG Falcon utes (mine being one) ... or diesel Hilux's. I think I have seen one Holden ute as a courier vehicle ... that's about it.
I'd say Suncorp's mileage statement is just speculation and has no fact behind it.
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As long as you regularly service any car it should last you a long while.
I service my ute once a month (every 5000-ishkm). It's been great ... still feels like new and it has 200,000 on it at the moment ... I've put 100,000km on it in the last 18 months or so.
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![]() But there are some lucky buggers out there that never wash or serves there cars and beats me how they get 50,000km out of them.
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I didn't need this study to know that Ford drivers are superior to Holden drivers ;)
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I wouldn't call a VL a safe car, in any respect. Example of a modded VL Turbo. 300KW + 20 years of wear and tear + moron behind the wheel + crappy handling= Death Trap. Anyway in the 3 and a half years, I've been driving, I've only had 1 accident. Which wasn't my fault. A 4WD reversed into me, while someone was angle parking and stuffed my bumper and headlight. Last edited by Ryan; 13-10-2006 at 06:26 PM. |
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Even when the Commy drivers seat is adjusted properly I still did not have as much veiw of the road as I do in my Fairmont.
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Ryan, well said. You mate are an island of reality amidst an ocean of diarrhea. If all drivers of ALL different makes were sensible enough to see the pitfalls of their cars like Ryan, then we would sure as hell have a lot less accidents. Personally, I won't read too much into it as I have seen losers in both camps, but Holden does unfortunately attract a lot of attention from the very young and impressionable crowd.
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I'd say the reason for the high Holden accident rate is that lots of young inexperienced drivers are attracted to the VK, VL through VT range, especially VL's.
These drivers love doing their thing around roundabouts and generally hoon about. I wouldn't say they're crappy handling, its the one behind the wheel thats the problem. Also these cars have a high theft rate. Hopefully Suncorp haven't included these claims in the statistics accidently. On the other hand I also worry about some AU drivers sometimes. I had three consecutive instances the other night. I wouldnt think these drivers are members of this forum however, judging by their actions which generally showed a lack of interest in speed limits and whats around them. Typical taxi driver style of driving, but they weren't taxis. |
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These stats would have been taken directly from claims made through the company you would presume. Doesnt take into account of number of cars on the road, Holden vs Ford for starters? If more Holdens on road then the stats are out of wack already. Among 100's of other variables that wouldnt be included. Another crappy statistic that means poo. Peanut butter causes cancer and vegitmite stops it I read somewhere once! There are some scarey E series drivers out there on P's as well, beleive it or not! :yeees:
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yeah i drove the work VZ SS and it felt soooooo dangerous, i was super glad to back into my EA $pak it just feels so much more stable and safe! I honstly thought i was going to die in the new SS and the EA felt like it held onto the road better!
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![]() In my area 2nd hand taxi's are very popular now. i have seen 6 very close by. VTII with body kit and monaro lights looks ****, ELII Fairmont with mags and sports system doesn't look all that bad but it's yellow. Some AU's some VX's and even some older ones EF's VS's. Worst drivers on the roads are cops ![]() ![]()
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