Another SCAM: This time its a 350Z

[GXL078]

Nice broken English! maybe they really are a doctor?

Hello,

Thank you for your answer. I am in London, UK right now and the car as well, I must to sell my residence from here because I will let the UK for Australia. I was a doctor here in UK and now I will come back home in Australia, but not before selling the house from here. If we reach an agreement, I am willing to take care of the shipping to your address. Shipping will take 5 days maximum. Sorry but I can not provide you with any documents of the car, because is sealed in cargo with the car and ready to be shipped at your address if you agreed with the terms. I have managed to obtain a low cost shipping, only AU $1,000.00 and I presume it would be fair me to pay the shipping cost. Meaning, that the car and the handling will cost you AU $19,000.00. I think this is reasonable. Let me know.

Due to amount involved, I suggest using the security provided by eBay's Vehicle Purchase Protection Program for handling payment. In my opinion this is the safest way to handle the transaction. You will have the car for inspection and test drive BEFORE any money is released to me. That's the eBay's procedure.

Let me know if you're willing to proceed on this basis.
Eleanor

[cArSiK]

say you're dumb enough to fall for that and you use "eBay's Vehicle Purchase Protection Program" for handling payment would you get your money back when the car dosent show up? :lookedat:

[bEAn86]

Is that guys name Borat?

[GXL078]

Originally Posted by bEAn86

Is that guys name Borat?

Eleanor!She is number 7 prostitute. They con the people into paying by Western Union and you CAN'T get your money back.

[Kobayashi]

Elanor? Is that because your money is gone in 60 seconds?

[XR8 Uterous]

Originally Posted by Kobayashi

Elanor? Is that because your money is gone in 60 seconds?

hahahahahahahaha

GOLD!!

[AU1FORME]

Originally Posted by xcgxl

Nice broken English! maybe they really are a doctor?

Hello,

Thank you for your answer. I am in London, UK right now and the car as well, I must to sell my residence from here because I will let the UK for Australia. I was a doctor here in UK and now I will come back home in Australia, but not before selling the house from here. If we reach an agreement, I am willing to take care of the shipping to your address. Shipping will take 5 days maximum. Sorry but I can not provide you with any documents of the car, because is sealed in cargo with the car and ready to be shipped at your address if you agreed with the terms. I have managed to obtain a low cost shipping, only AU $1,000.00 and I presume it would be fair me to pay the shipping cost. Meaning, that the car and the handling will cost you AU $19,000.00. I think this is reasonable. Let me know.

Due to amount involved, I suggest using the security provided by eBay's Vehicle Purchase Protection Program for handling payment. In my opinion this is the safest way to handle the transaction. You will have the car for inspection and test drive BEFORE any money is released to me. That's the eBay's procedure.

Let me know if you're willing to proceed on this basis.
Eleanor

I got one like this in the disguise of a Second Chance offer for something I actually bid on

[brendo83]

Originally Posted by cArSiK

say you're dumb enough to fall for that and you use "eBay's Vehicle Purchase Protection Program" for handling payment would you get your money back when the car dosent show up? :lookedat:

Nah if you did decide to purchase they would send you a message and say something like.

"Sorry there is an error in the link from the auction to the eBay's Vehicle Purchase Protection Program, we are working with ebay to fix it, but for now you can get to it via this link"

That link will go to a specially set up website that looks like the ebay one, you'll make the payment there and thats how you'll lose all your money, sounds like fun yes?

[landau5.8]

Yeah, same here. I got this as a second chance offer. Found it to good to be true, so just to be sure I sent it to ebay for verification. They confirmed that it was a con and they would advise interpol. Passed on this info to the seller and never heard back........ Shame that....

[Ford_V8]

These guys are trouble. I once had a motorbike advertised on a trading website and received numerous emails from people along the lines of " A client mine owe me $5000 and when he pay I give money you and you ship bike to me when you receive money and then pay me the change for bike " What he was attempting to do was send me a money order, wait til I had cashed the $5000 money order and the money was in my account but not yet cleared. They were hoping that I would see the money in my account and assume it has cleared, then send them the bike and the extra $2000 difference, then they disappear and the money order bounces and you are left $2000 poorer and less a bike. Luckily I was reluctant to use any method other than direct deposit but a mate of mine wasn't so lucky and was left with several hundred dollars to pay off just for the fee of the bounced money orders. The moral is, the moment someone emails you about a nigerian contact etc etc run for the hills :hihi:

[GXL078]

Originally Posted by Ford_V8

These guys are trouble. I once had a motorbike advertised on a trading website and received numerous emails from people along the lines of " A client mine owe me $5000 and when he pay I give money you and you ship bike to me when you receive money and then pay me the change for bike " What he was attempting to do was send me a money order, wait til I had cashed the $5000 money order and the money was in my account but not yet cleared. They were hoping that I would see the money in my account and assume it has cleared, then send them the bike and the extra $2000 difference, then they disappear and the money order bounces and you are left $2000 poorer and less a bike. Luckily I was reluctant to use any method other than direct deposit but a mate of mine wasn't so lucky and was left with several hundred dollars to pay off just for the fee of the bounced money orders. The moral is, the moment someone emails you about a nigerian contact etc etc run for the hills :hihi:

Australian Money Orders don't need to be cleared. They are paid for up front, the ones you get from the Post Office.

[Ford_V8]

It was fairly clear that whoever sent them was not from Australia. The money orders had Wal-Mart written on them so I'm guessing America?

Pic below

[Kobayashi]

Yeah, they are american ones. Cheap fees, but i found them a little dodgy, so kept using western union when over there.

[AUsome]

haha! Here's anohter guy that was trying to sell a BA XR8 for 18,250 on carsales...

Josh,

I have contacted the shipping company and they informed me that the shipping of the vehicle to North Queensland,Australia, will cost $2,000 and can be done in 10 days or less.
I thought a lot on this deal and I would like to inform you that I can send the car back to Australia, in North Queensland, also I will cover the shipping of the car back in Australia, but I need to be sure for my safety, that you are really interested in the car and have the money.
For that I would need you to go to a western union office in your area, with a friend, and ask him to send a deposit of $3,000, from the car`s price, in your name here in Houston, TX. You can find a western union office in any superstore in your area, or a grocery store. In this mode, you can be sure for your money , because only you can pick up the money , in Houston, TX.
After the transfer is done I would need this information so I can see that the deposit was made:
-sender`s name and address, receiver`s name(this would be your name) and the MTCN number.

After I verify this I will send the car back to Australia, in North Queensland and I will fly there to do the transaction with you. If you will buy the car you will have to change the receiver name of the western union transfer, to my name so I can get the money, when I will be back in Houston, the rest of the money you will pay me by check or wire transfer. if you don't like the car for any reason, you will withdraw your money form western union. You will have to understand ,the point , because I want to be sure that if I will come in North Queensland , and we will have a real deal , and not just words. When we will meet , in North Queensland , you will see the car , verify the papers with the Police in North Queensland, and you can see that is ok.
We will arrange the documents in the same day , and i will arrange also to take the temporary plates, to go with the car , in your state. After you see that the car is ok, if you want to buy it, we will make the sale contract ,and the car will be on your name.
I hope that everything is clear , so we can meet in North Queensland , to make this deal. Probably this payment method it is not very familiar to you, but l have to admit that it is most efficient process, to go through. My experience in the sale business proved to me that quality is the key element to have a successful business. Good faith and passion for winning has always been my top priority and my most valued business approach. I want to tell you something. You will have to understand me , that if you don't like the car , I will give you back , the money for the fees that you have paid for the transfer by Western Union and if possible I will ask you to help me to sell it in your area. So please reply me soon, and tell me if we can make the deal, and also , when do you think , that is ok, for you to make the deal. If you don't know where you can find Western Union, in your city , please tell me your city name and zip code, and I can find for you a location, where you can go and arrange the transfer.

Sincerely,
Chris

This guy went through a bit of trouble to write all that up... Thats about the third email from this guy I got.

[GXL078]

Any ideas on how you can scam the scammer? Or at least make his life a little uncomfortable. At least his price is a little more realistic, must have taken my advice.

[Ford_V8]

lol we found the name of the motorbike scammer (above), looked him up and set a voip program up to call him every couple of minutes for about a day. Plenty of fun can be had with these guys, just use your imagination

[OLDFORDNUT]

wow $1000 for shipping a car from the UK to Queensland, yeah right,
try about $3500 plus import duty of 40% as you have not lived over there for more than a year, probably more now as thats from memory last time i enquired 5 years ago, plus decontaminating car by specialist company,not much change from another $400

[Laminge]

It getting to the stage where reporting these scams on the forums is feeling like spam.

[Yellow_Festiva]

yeah, hmmm how to "scam the scammer".......

I was curious one day and was close to opening a bank account with 50c, and seeing what happened haaaa... but apparently you are able to 'overdraw' on an account so that your account is actually in the red, so you got to pay a fee as well as the overdrawn amount... so i didnt bother...


Re giving these guys the run around, keep asking them to fax documents regarding the transaction several times (give them the local cop shop fax, or the fax of any company that gave you crap customer service recently) and just make them think your serious.... i heard of 1 person who strung some fool along for a month then just went silent, the guy at the other end sent a dozen faxes, called the mobile several times from God only knows what contry and just kept trying till the aussie guy had enuf fun and forgot about the scammer....

Anyway... the technology is there im sure to track these people down, its a shame its not used more often...

[peyote]

Originally Posted by xcgxl

Any ideas on how you can scam the scammer? Or at least make his life a little uncomfortable. At least his price is a little more realistic, must have taken my advice.

if you like a good laugh have a look at
http://www.419eater.com/
http://www.thescambaiter.com/
http://www.scamorama.com/
there was someone on one of them sites who freight baited a scammer
he baited him for ages he sent him broken down whitegoods im talking big washing machines,a fridge,boxes of dead pc power supplys ect
anyway when the scammer received what he thought were his new "anus"brand laptops was junk he went nuts after he had to fork out heaps before he could get his laptops

[Kryton]

Originally Posted by Laminge

It getting to the stage where reporting these scams on the forums is feeling like spam.

i agree. just the same as the $10500 GTs on ebay.
it doesnt need to be mentioned everytime there is "bargian" luxury car that could be a scam.
IT IS A SCAM.
:togo: