Quickest Ecotec? - Page 2

Kenaz · 19-04-2009, 01:49 PM

I know the Street Commodores project VN ran around the 13.8 mark N/A. I also know of another VN with the 4.3L stroker kit that was in the 13s too. Both of those are obviously the earlier Buick V6 though..

RavenLS1 · 19-04-2009, 02:34 PM

V6

NATURALLY ASPIRATED

1) Sleeper / Andrew, 1989 VN Executive, 3350lbs
ET 13.63 @ 97.94mph, 1.850 (60ft), 3.8L V6, A3, 3.9:1.

2) Jas.G / Jason Gaikhorst, 1990/ VN commodore, 3250lbs
ET 13.742 @ 98.46mph, 2.021 (60ft), 3.8L V6, Ported heads shaved 20thou, 1.8 roller rocker, WADE cam, Ported manifold+ 70mmtb, K@N pod filter+ CAI, exhaust, EMS computer, MSD coils, Hi stall, auto4, 3.45:1LSD

3) Blownvn / Scott Taylor 1989 VN Sedan, 3350lbs
ET 13.836 @ 97.16mph, 2.088 (60ft), 3.8L V6, A4, 3.45:1

4) sme6 / Cliff Redfern, 1995 VS Calais, 3260lbs
ET 14.115 @ 98.59mph, 2.171 (60ft), 3.8L V6 Ecotec, A4, 3.91:1

5) strokedvr6 / gavin , 93 vr v6
ET 14.131 @ 94.83mph, 2.086 (60ft), 4.2L V6, A4, 3.73:1 LSD

6) worked_vs / Lins, 1997 VS Sedan
ET 14.693 @ 96.38mph, 2.312 (60ft), 3.8L V6 Ecotec, m5, 4.11:1 LSD

7) jrh03m / James, 1990 VN Sedan
ET 14.829 @ 92.29mph, 2.149 (60ft), 3.8L V6, M5, 3.45:1.

8) VS S PAK / Mark,1996 VS S'Pak
ET 14.872 @ 93.17mph, 2.174 (60ft), 3.8L V6 Ecotec, M5, 3.73:1.

9) rocky / Peter Gallagher, 2000 VT Acclaim
ET 14.948 @ 90.90mph, 3.8L V6 Ecotec, 3.73:1

10) 195icalais / cameron, 1990 / vn /sv3800, 1205kg
ET 14.988 @ 91.19mph, 2.147 (60ft), v6 / 3.8 / stock/auto, 3.91:1

11) MaD_KiWi / Simon, 93 / Vp / Ute, 1300 (kg/lbs)
ET 15.1 @ 88.93mph, 2.143 (60ft), V6 Buick / 3.8L / N/A, auto 4sp, 4.11

12) sloVN / Peter, 1990 VN Sedan, 3350lbs
ET 15.139 @ 91.34mph, 2.277 (60ft), 3.8L V6, M5, 3.45:1

13) SAF30L /Jerry, 1993 / Holden / VP UTE, 1650KG
ET 15.170 @ 89.39mph, 2.213 (60ft), V6 / 3.8 / Electric Intake Fan, CAI, m5, 3.08:1

14) robk / rob, 1989 VN, 3350lbs
ET15.298 @ 90.18mph, 2.335 (60ft), 3.8L V6, M5, 3.45

15) VSV6ECO / Shannon Lyons, 1995 VS Sedan, 3300lbs
ET 15.329 @ 89.39mph, 2.293 (60ft), 3.8L V6 Ecotec, A4, 3.08:1

16) smaddock / Simon Maddock, 1996 VS Commodore, 3080lbs
ET 15.337 @ 90.16mph, 2.394 (60ft), 3.8L V6 Ecotec, A4, 3.08:1

17) JE5TER / Jezz, 1999 Holden VT II Executive Sedan, 3485lbs
ET 15.372 @ 89.52mph, 2.262 (60ft), 3.8L V6 Ecotec, A4, 3.08:1

18) DRF74 / Brock, 1997 VS Ute, 1250kg
ET 15.425 @ 89mph, 2.120 (60ft), 3.8L V6 Ecotec, A4, 3.08:1

19)Vee Pee / Justin G 1993 VP Sedan, 2970lb
ET 15.537 @ 88.54mph, 2.315 (60ft), 3.8L V6, A4, 3.08:1

20) FRY29T / Chris Sorgsepp 1996 VS Acclaim
ET 15.619 @ 88.25mph, 2.449 (60ft), 3.8L Ecotec V6, S/C V6 CAI, 2.5" exhaust, A4, 3.08:1 open center IRS

21) The Fonz / George, 1994 VR Acclaim
ET 15.681 @ 87.51mph, 2.373 (60ft), 3.8L V6, A4 , 3.08:1

22) PAWN / shae, 1995/VS Commodore, 1300kg
ET 15.757 @ 85.91mph, 2.288 (60ft), 3.8L Ecotec V6, 4l60e auto 4 speed, 3.08

23) Tritorius Rex / Trent, 1991 VN
ET 15.804 @ 87.86mph, 2.45 (60ft), 3.8L V6, A4, 3.08:1

24) Barneyness / Joshua Barnard, 1990/ VN Commo, 2800lbs
ET 15.825 @ 84.55mph, 2.351 (60ft), 3.8L V6, A4, 3.08:1

25) YEP-38L / Matt Rowland 1989 VN Sedan, 2970lb
ET 15.847 @ 85.11mph, 2.332 (60ft), 3.8L V6, home made CAI, 2.5" exhaust, A4, 3.08:1 open center

26) Wretched / Ben Hosking 1992 VP Sedan, 3400lbs
ET 15.87 @ 87.13mph, 2.413 (60ft), 3.8L V6, A4, 3.7:1

27) VP Racer / Andy Rowland, 1990 VN Wagon, 3270lbs
ET 16.026 @ 82.50mph, 2.343 (60ft), 3.8L V6, A4 , 3.08:1 LSD

28) Calais3800 / Arthur, 1994 VR Calais
ET 16.254 @ 86.01mph, 2.529 (60ft), 3.8L V6, A4 , 3.08:1

29)dbass / brendan, 1989 / holden / vn berlina 1330 kg
ET 16.268 @ 84.31mph, 2.522 (60ft), 3.8L V6, auto

30) VTCOM / Shaun Rees, 98 Commodore Acclaim
ET 16.306 @ 85.05mph, 2.535 (60ft), 3.8L V6 Ecotec, A4, 3.08:1

31) eggman / Anthony 1994/VR Berina 3000lb
ET 16.312 @ 84.14mph, 2.461 (60ft), 3.8L V6, A4, 3:08:1

32) Speed_racer / Brenden VN Calais
ET 16.355 @ 83.41mph, 2.534 (60ft), 3.8L V6, A4, 3:08:1

Alloytec V6

NATURALLY ASPIRATED[/size]

1) impulsesv6 / Brendon Boulding / 2006 Commodore Sv6
ET 14.378 @ 95.34mph, 2.061 (60ft), 3.6L V6 / HI TORQUE PERFORMANCE TUNE, X-force exhaust, pacemakers, highflow cats, Mace manifold insulator, port matched, 5spd auto, diff ratio (3.46:1)

2) vzsv6 / anjelo sakis, 2004 SV6
ET 15.040 @ 94mph, 2.218 (60ft), 3.6L V6 Alloytec, A5, 2.87

The Monty · 19-04-2009, 02:59 PM

Ive always wanted to see a list like that. Thanks heaps. One thing I never really realised was just how light they really are. 1205 kg for one of them, thats 400KG off mine, thats like having 4 really big dudes in my car trying to race. And the MPH as they are so much lighter is a lot lower, for a 13, we generally need 100mph plus, they need just 97-98mph.

Windsor220 · 19-04-2009, 03:05 PM

Thanks for the list RavenLS1. Im guessing thats a forum list with members cars so may not include all cars but looks like our estimates were on the money

RavenLS1 · 19-04-2009, 03:26 PM

i can post the na/ v6 dyno list aswell if you want?

The Monty · 19-04-2009, 04:01 PM

Hell yeah. Please do.

RavenLS1 · 19-04-2009, 04:45 PM

V6

[NATURALLY ASPIRATED]

1. Bickham/ Dale Bickham / VNII V6 commodore
HP (241hp), kW (179.9kW)

Engine type and capacity: V6 4.3-litre
Power adders: 4.3 bradey stroker crank, forged pistons, custom cam, Heads by higgins, custom inlet manifold and 82mm TB.
Trans Type (M6, A4, etc): T5
Diff Ratio: 3.73:1
Wheel/Tyre size: 235/40/18
Fuel type : optimax
Type Of Dyno: Dyno Dynamics
Name Of Workshop: Starr Performance
Date dynoed: 10/8/2003 Melb. holden vs ford show

2. Jas.G/ Jason/ 1990 VN commodore V6
HP (240.6hp), kW (179.55kW)

Engine Type and Capacity:buick v6 4.3l
Power Adders:nat. aspirated
Trans Type (M6, A4, etc): A3
Diff Ratio: 3.45:1
Wheel/Tyre size: 225/50/16
Fuel Type: BP ultimate
Type Of Dyno:dyno dynamics
Name Of Workshop: XXXXX
Contact Number: XXXXX
Date Dynoed: 4/4/09

3. REV-231 / Gilbert / VS II
HP (240hp), kW (179kW)

Engine Type and Capacity: Ecotec v6 3800
Power Adders: Complete upgraded valve train, shaved heads, Tighe custom camshaft, YT 1.8 rockers, various ported components, Walbro GSS 342 pump,... and more
Trans Type (M6, A4, etc): T5 manual
Diff Ratio: 3.45
Wheel/Tyre size: 235/40/18
Fuel Type: Shell regular
Type Of Dyno: Dyno dynamics
Name Of Workshop: Awesome Automotive
Contact Number: 82773927
Date Dynoed: 18/7/08

4. VeeSicks / Glenn Reynolds / 02 vx calais
HP (217.9hp), kW (162.5kW)

Engine Type and Capacity: ecotec
Power Adders: Port polish heads, intake manifold and throttle body, big cam, 1:9:1 yella terra roller rockers, Disabled balance shaft, Custom home made Cold Air Intake scoop (from under car), PaceMaker extractors with 2 1/2" mild steel exhaust still usin the standard calais cats.
Trans Type 4spd auto, stage 2 shift kit and 2800 hi stall
Diff Ratio: 3.9 lsd
Wheel/Tyre size: 235 40 R18
Fuel Type: BP ultimate 98
Name Of Workshop: kostecki engine systems
Contact Number: 92089222
Date Dynoed: 20-12-08

5. sleeper / Andrew / vn v6
HP (212.28hp), kW (158.3kW)

Engine type and capacity: V6 3.8-litre
Power adders:
Trans Type (M6, A4, etc): M5
Diff Ratio: 3.9:1
Wheel/Tyre size: 235/40/17
Fuel type : optimax
Type Of Dyno: Dyno Dynamics
Name Of Workshop: SAS
Contact Number: 9748 1300
Date dynoed: 8/5/2004 SC dyno day

6. [TOPGEAR] / Michael / VN V6 5spd
HP (209.6hp), kW (156.3kw)

Engine Type and Capacity: v6, shaved and bored (not sure capacity)
Power Adders: stage 3 cam, valves, timing chain, valve springs, ECU, chip, bored cylinders, bearings, stud kit, spark plug leads, pistons, rods, ported polished, POD, diff, clutch, rods, extractors, exhaust, cats, throttle body, stock crank acid dipped & rebalanced. (all i can think of for now)
Trans Type (M6, A4, etc): T5 manual
Diff Ratio: 3.55
Wheel/Tyre size: 17" 235/35/17
Fuel Type: synergy.
Type Of Dyno: AWD, precision dynometers ?
Name Of Workshop: Auto Gas Connection
Contact Number: 97759331
Date Dynoed: 28th May 2005

7. jrh03m / James / 1990 VN Commodore
HP (208.9hp), kW (155.8kW)

Engine type and capacity: V6 series II 3.8L
Power adders: Nil Natural.
Trans Type: M5
Diff Ratio: 3.45:1
Wheel/Tyre size: 245/40/18 Dunlop
Fuel type: Caltex Vortex
Type Of Dyno: Dyno Dynamics
Name Of Shop where it was done: Redline Rotary Brookvale
Contact Number: 99381992 Alex Blackman
Date dynoed: 19/4/2004

8. jNINE / Janene / VR V6
HP (207.2Hp), kW (154.6Kw)

Engine Type and Capacity: 3.8L V6
Power Adders: Fully Blueprinted, ACL Race O/S pistons, Custom Cam, Reground Crank, highly street-ported heads, deburred plenum & polished elbow & TB, portmatched TB, inlet & heads, Custom chip, full custom exhaust with Genie extractors.
Trans Type (M6, A4, etc): 4L60E A4
Diff Ratio: Std
Wheel/Tyre size: 235/45R17
Fuel Type: ulimate
Type Of Dyno: Dyno Dynamics
Name Of Workshop: Dyno'd by Pro Street, Build by Hornbrook Motorsport
Contact Number: 07 3865 1072
Date Dynoed: 29/10/05

9. smaddock / Simon Maddock / VS Executive SII
HP (206.4hp) , kW (154kW)

Engine Type and Capacity: Ecotec V6
Power Adders: Surecam cam, Crow timing chain + valvesprings, 1.8:1 YT rockers, 68mm ported t/b, Chiptorque chip
Trans Type (M6, A4, etc): A4
Diff Ratio: 3.08:1
Wheel/Tyre size: 235/45/17
Fuel Type: optimax
Type Of Dyno: Dyno Dynamics
Name Of Workshop: MC Automotive
Contact Number: (03) 5975 7542
Date Dynoed: 18/02/2006

10. Vteaser / Jon / 1999 VT S2 Commodore Sedan
HP (205.9hp), kW (153.5kW)

Engine Type and Capacity: Ecotec 3.8L
Power Adders: Xorst, Cam, MACE TTB, Custom Intake, MSD Coil Packs, 10.0mm Leads, 1.8:1 Rockers, MACE Manifold Insulator,
Trans Type: M30 four-speed 4L60-E automatic With Stage Two Shift Kit
Diff Ratio: 3.91:1
Wheel/Tyre size: 20" / 245*35
Fuel Type: ultimate
Type Of Dyno: Dynodynamics
Name Of Workshop: Walkinshaw Performance Formula Tech Dyno Centre
Contact Number: 08 9494 2424
Date Dynoed: 03-07-2008

11. sKitz_v6 / Craig / VS Executive
HP (202.6hp), kW (151.1kW)

Engine type and capacity: Eco V6 3800
Power adders: P&P Heads, COME Cam, CROW Racing timing gear, Chip, Exhaust, CAI
Trans Type (M6, A4, etc): A4
Diff Ratio: Stock 3.08:1
Wheel/Tyre size: 235/45/17
Fuel type : BP Ultimate
Type Of Dyno: Dyno Dynamics
Name Of Workshop: SUREFLO EXHAUST
Contact Number: 02 9829 3158 - GREG
Date dynoed: 11/9/04

12. vscommy / Adam / Vs V6 executive
HP (198.5), kW (148.18kW)

Engine Type and Capacity: 3.8 litre ecotec
Power Adders:Rebuilt engine,ACL race series kit, Come racing Cam,msd coils,large throttle body,CAI,K&N filter,Extractors,2 1/2 full mandrel exhaust.ported polished intake manifold.
Trans Type (M6, A4, etc): T5 manual - DIrect clutches heavy duty clutch
Diff Ratio: 3.08
Wheel/Tyre size: 235/45/18
Fuel Type: ultimate
Type Of Dyno: Dyno Dynamics
Name Of Workshop: All Dyno Tuning - TP automotive
Contact Number: 0404 176 490
Date Dynoed: 3-5-07

13. SLugg / Graeme / VT 1998 Exec V6
HP (198.47hp), kW (148kW)

Engine Type and Capacity: V6 3.8Ltr
Power Adders: F&M Ported Heads -.020 Decked - Dialed Crow stg2 Cam -JP Timing Gear - Crow Springs - YT 1.8: Roller Rockers - Pacemaker Ex 2.5" single system with Genie Turbo Rear and Walker turbo centre muffler - STG2 Shift Kit and corvette servo - CAI - ported TB
Trans Type (M6, A4, etc): Auto
Diff Ratio: 3.45LSD
Wheel/Tyre size: ROH Blades 17*8 - 245*45REAR 235*45FRONT
Fuel Type: PULP
Type Of Dyno: Dyno Dynamics
Name Of Workshop: Awesome Auto
Contact Number: Leon
Date Dynoed: 28/2/05

14. worked_vs / Lins / 97 VS sedan
HP (198.34hp), kW (147.9kW)

Engine Type and Capacity: v6 3.8L ecotec
Power Adders: heads/cam/exhaust
Trans Type (M6, A4, etc): m5
Diff Ratio: 3.73:1
Wheel/Tyre size: 235/40/18
Fuel Type: BP ultimate
Type Of Dyno: dyno dynamics
Name Of Workshop: SAS
Contact Number: 97481300
Date Dynoed: 25/9/06

15. Blownvn / Scott Taylor / 1989 VN Sedan
HP (197.5hp), kW (147.4kW)

Engine type and capacity: V6 3.8-litre
Power adders: None
Trans Type (M6, A4, etc): A4
Diff Ratio: 3.45:1
Wheel/Tyre size: 225/65/15
Fuel type : optimax
Type Of Dyno: Dyno Dynamics
Name Of Workshop: SAS
Contact Number: 9748 1300
Date dynoed: 31/3/2004

16. sme6 / Cliff / 1995 VS Calais
HP (197.2hp), kW (147kW)

Engine type and capacity - V6 3.8L
Power adders (Nitrous, SC, Turbo) - None
Trans Type (M6, A4, etc) - A4
Diff Ratio - 3.09:1
Wheel/Tyre size: 215/60/15 Bridgestones
Fuel type = Optimax
Type Of Dyno: Dyno Dynamics
Name Of Shop where it was done: RPM Motorsport
Contact Number: 02 97566644
Date dynoed: 06/06/05

17. vngenz/ Justin Bould/ s1 vn v6
HP (196.3hp), kW (146.5kW)

Engine Type and Capacity: v6 3800cc
Power Adders: Ported heads,ACL rebuild kit, custom cam, roller master timing componets, portmatched intake manifold, balanced,blue printed, 9.6:1 comp,70mm tb, MSD ignition, 10mm leads, HPC coated intake pipe, k&n filter, HM headers HPC coated, 2 1/2 inch highflow cat, 2 1/2 straight through, wolf 3d ecu.
Trans Type (M6, A4, etc): T5 manual
Diff Ratio: 3.91:1
Wheel/Tyre size: 16,235,40
Fuel Type: ultimate
Type Of Dyno: DYNO DYNAMICS
Name Of Workshop: HPF Horse Power Factory
Contact Number:03 97931616
Date Dynoed: 12.06.08

18. trentc / Trent Cain / VNII V6 commodore
HP (195.4hp), kW (145.7kW)

Engine Type and Capacity: N/A V6II buick 3.8L
Power Adders: head work, custom cam, acl racing pistons, haltech, k&n, cai, extractors, twin cat exhaust, yella terra 1:6 rockers, 10:1 compression
Trans Type: recon. 4spd auto, stage 2 shift kit, 3k stall
Diff Ratio: 3.73:1
Wheel/Tyre size: 235/45R17
Fuel Type: optimax
Type Of Dyno: dyno dynamics
Name Of Workshop: Chapmans Auto Repairs
Contact Number: 07 5442 5066
Date Dynoed: 18/12/2007

19. BJD 85 / Brad / VS ute
HP (195.0hp), kW (145.4kW)

Engine type and capacity: V6 3.8-litre ecotech
Trans Type (M6, A4, etc): T5 manual
Diff Ratio: 3.08:1
Wheel/Tyre size: 245/40/19
Fuel type : optimax
Type Of Dyno: dyno log chassis dyno
Name Of Workshop: brisbane tuning and turbo
Contact Number: 3393 1588
Date dynoed: 14/10/2003

20. VY2003 / Rob / 2003 VY Exec V6
HP (194.44hp), kW (145kW)

Engine type & capacity - Ecotec 3.8 EFi V6
Power adders - K&N fillter, Pacemaker Headers, 1.9:1 rockers, CAI, 2.5" catback,
Trans Type - A4
Diff Ratio: 3.08:1
Wheel/Tyre size: 215/60/15 Bridgestone Grid
Fuel type: BP Ultimate
Type of Dyno: Dyno Dynamics
Name of Shop: WESTPOINT ENGINES & DYNO
Contact Number: 03 9266-2390
Date dynoed: 15/05/2007

21. fmlycar / Kurt Schumann / VY S II
HP (190.4hp), kW (142kW)

Engine Type and Capacity: 3800
Power Adders: Twin T/B, 1.8 YT roller rockers, ss cai, pacemaker headers, 2.5 cat back K&N filter
Trans Type (M6, A4, etc): getrag 5
Diff Ratio: 3.08 lsd
Wheel/Tyre size: 18/245/40
Fuel Type: optimax
Type Of Dyno: Dyno dynamics
Name Of Workshop: Street Torque
Contact Number: (08) 89527755
Date Dynoed: 25/03/2006

22. 0081 / Peter / VY"s"
HP (189.9hp), kW (141.7kW)

Engine Type and Capacity: V6 3.8L
Power Adders: FIT rockers, custom CAI, F&N filter, custom 2.5" exhaust, 69mm throttle body.
Trans Type (M6, A4, etc): M5
Diff Ratio: 3.07 LSD
Wheel/Tyre size: 235/40/18
Fuel Type: Optimax
Type Of Dyno: DD
Name Of Workshop: SAS
Date Dynoed: 21-10-2006

23. pow3rslave / tim / VP exec
HP (187.74hp), kW (140.0kW)

Engine Type and Capacity: NA 3.8 V6
Power Adders: wade 992a cam, heads shaved 15thou, crow heavy duty springs, rollermaster single row chain, k&n panel, VS SS CAI, Pacemaker extractors, twin cat>2.5 catback system, Foam tune
Trans Type t5
Diff Ratio: 3.08:1
Wheel/Tyre size: 235x17"
Fuel Type: regular
Type of Dyno: Dyno Dynamics
Name Of Workshop: S&S racing
Contact Number: 93107842
Date Dynoed: 30/07/07

24. MYK38L/ Mike Davidson/ VR V6 94
HP (186.94hp), kW (139.4kW)

Engine Type and Capacity: 3.8litre V6
Power Adders:lumpy cam, pacemakers, 2.5" catback, CAI, bellmouth removed
Trans Type:T5
Diff Ratio: stock
Wheel/Tyre size: 235/45/17
Fuel Type: BP Ultimate
Type Of Dyno: Dyno Dynamics ShootOut
Name Of Workshop: Silverwater Auto
Contact Number: 94781300
Date Dynoed:22/09/2006

25. VS_V6 / Jason / VS V6 acclaim
HP (183.45hp), kW (136.8rwkW)

Engine type and capacity: 3800 V6
Power adders: the usual bolt ons
Trans Type (M6, A4, etc): A4
Diff Ratio: 3.5
Wheel/Tyre size: 235/45/17
Fuel type : optimax
Type Of Dyno: Dyno Dynamics
Name Of Workshop: Jakes Performance
Contact Number: 02 62554545
Date dynoed: 17/09/05

The Monty · 19-04-2009, 05:12 PM

Some pretty impressive cars there. Cant wait till Brisbane commodore club organise the next dyno/drag day for Holdens Vs. Fords. Makes a really good day out.

xbgs351 · 19-04-2009, 05:27 PM

This car would have to be the fastest, although there is stuff all Holden parts left in it. I believe it beat a Cosworth powered Gould at the Australian Hillclimb Championships a few years back, and they are known to be quicker to 100 mph than a F1.

Falc'man · 19-04-2009, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xbgs351

...and they are known to be quicker to 100 mph than a F1.

How???

mr scotto · 19-04-2009, 07:53 PM

Mist out on the list (lol),My vy excetive ran a best of 16.9 and 17.1 on gas-the lpg type.Hav'nt been able to get close to an 11 with a windsor in a 1200kg car.

westoftown · 19-04-2009, 07:57 PM

Wasn't even born in the mid-80's but i've done a bit of reading and i THINK the group B rally cars (audi quattro, peugeot 205 T16) could do 0-100 in something ridiculous like 2.5 seconds (quicker than an F1) because they weighed much less than 1 tonne and had both a supercharger and a turbocharger.

Little off topic but someone who knows more about these cars correct me if im wrong as the above facts are a bit vague??

xbgs351 · 19-04-2009, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falc'man

How???

Similar power, 2/3rds the weight, better aero package (low speed grip).

Nikked · 19-04-2009, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westoftown

Wasn't even born in the mid-80's but i've done a bit of reading and i THINK the group B rally cars (audi quattro, peugeot 205 T16) could do 0-100 in something ridiculous like 2.5 seconds (quicker than an F1) because they weighed much less than 1 tonne and had both a supercharger and a turbocharger.

Little off topic but someone who knows more about these cars correct me if im wrong as the above facts are a bit vague??

Groupe B was insane!

Fords RS200 did 0-60mph in 2.8 seconds!

Othe notable cars were the Porsche 959, Rover Metro 6R4 and the Audi Quattro S1...

Airmon · 19-04-2009, 08:33 PM

VN V6s arn't Ecotechs i dont think. Ecotech are VS to VZ (Does VE still run the 3.8?). In base models on the latter when they started to use alloytechs in the S and SV6s.
VN motors are supposed to go better then the Ecotech variants, even though its still just a Buick Carby motor, injected with a different manifold. They don't go too badly. I dragged my mates VS Ute at WSID, depending on who was ahead off the mark, thats how it would stay up until 80 or so Kms then the 4.0l would pull away.
I don't know how well an older 4.0l I6 would hold up against it.
He didn't pull better then a 16.2 all night, even though the temps got colder the car didn't want to go any better, where as the 4.0l got better and better the colder it got.

But yeah as said, no chance running 11s N/A, they'll do it S/C or Turbo.
The VT Supercharged V6s run a low 15 stock I think, but a VT is a heavier car with the same motor.

vztrt · 19-04-2009, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airmon

VN V6s arn't Ecotechs i dont think. Ecotech are VS to VZ (Does VE still run the 3.8?). In base models on the latter when they started to use alloytechs in the S and SV6s.

VS to VY had the ecotec engine, VZ got the alloytec motor (two emmision compliant motors) and VE got a slightly increased alloytec. Now the new alloytec in the omega has been 'upgraded' where it has less power and torque then the previous model, which is funny as that lost power and torque when the motor went euro 3.

**DJM83** · 19-04-2009, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airmon

I dragged my mates VS Ute at WSID, depending on who was ahead off the mark, thats how it would stay up until 80 or so Kms then the 4.0l would pull away.
I don't know how well an older 4.0l I6 would hold up against it.
He didn't pull better then a 16.2 all night, even though the temps got colder the car didn't want to go any better, where as the 4.0l got better and better the colder it got.

The tall 1st gear (factory) helps the ability off the line of the Rattletech

blackwood · 19-04-2009, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airmon

VN motors are supposed to go better then the Ecotech variants, even though its still just a Buick Carby motor, injected with a different manifold. They don't go too badly. I dragged my mates VS Ute at WSID, depending on who was ahead off the mark, thats how it would stay up until 80 or so Kms then the 4.0l would pull away.

I remember one night in my old VN V6, I level-pegged a bloke in a 5L VS Ute.
We stayed level from standstill to about 130km/h, then I backed off. *

My VN had a 2 1/2" cat-back exhaust with low restriction mufflers and a CAI.
Used to pull quite hard. The benifit of being quite a light car (VN Exec was actually lighter than a VL!)

* Closed course accelleration trials performed on a private road...lol

Airmon · 19-04-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by blackwood

I remember one night in my old VN V6, I level-pegged a bloke in a 5L VS Ute.
We stayed level from standstill to about 130km/h, then I backed off. *

My VN had a 2 1/2" cat-back exhaust with low restriction mufflers and a CAI.
Used to pull quite hard. The benifit of being quite a light car (VN Exec was actually lighter than a VL!)

And thats why my Hilux is going VN Buick V6 over anything else!
They sounds better too.

Windsor220 · 19-04-2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by blackwood

I remember one night in my old VN V6, I level-pegged a bloke in a 5L VS Ute.
We stayed level from standstill to about 130km/h, then I backed off. *

My VN had a 2 1/2" cat-back exhaust with low restriction mufflers and a CAI.
Used to pull quite hard. The benifit of being quite a light car (VN Exec was actually lighter than a VL

Yeah those VNs/VPs are quick standard because there's nothing of them. Guy I knew a few years ago had a VP manual with exhaust that did a 15.3 down the Motorplex.

By the way for the actual thread, when I said Ecotec I was really referring to the earlier Buicks aswell not just VS onwards.

honer · 21-04-2009, 12:15 AM

ASTRO6 in perth has a bombed out setup with a Whipple blower in a Commy wagon and I think he is running in the 11's consistantly

Seriously doubt an NA would do it

greenfoam · 21-04-2009, 02:38 AM

There's one guy with a twin turbo ecotec that runs 9's. Fastest in the world I think. There's more than you can count in the 11s and up with boost. Couple with stock motors running 11's too.

Mid-High 13s is about as quick as you go NA. Some kid recently went high 13's in a VT which I thought was a really good effort considering how much heavier they are over a VN/P. Also a healthy near stock VN/P, say cat back exahust will run 15.3, manual could go slightly quicker. That said most of them on the road today are more like 15.8-16.2 cars due to old age. All up a modified Ford 6 is quicker on average I reckon even in the heavier cars. There's has never been one run quicker than 13.5 in a Commodore as far as anyone knows NA

greenfoam · 21-04-2009, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by The Monty

Im talking N/A as well, didnt think of boosted ones, lol.
If I remember, on the commodore forums, they have threads about trying to crack into the 14's, like we try and crack the 13's.
Generally an exhaust plus intake VN/VP will make 95rwkw, same with a VY is around 120kw.
Our E series with exhaust and intake make 130, AU's are the same, B'series will make 150.

Exhaust tune VN-VR almost allways make 110-115 rwkw (95-105 stock). Exhaust tune ecotecs make 130 on the dot (105-115stock), much better heads on the later motor is where the gain is. And yep getting a 14 in a bolt on V6 is a mission much the same as going under 14 on a bolt on 5 litre is quite a mission too, there's about exactly 1 second difference between the two engines.

This guy here has the fastest bolt on V6 I've seen (exhaust tune and was a manual), used to run 9.0 on the 1/8th mile but it had no interior

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6KZosZmHHg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtA28-Huyu8&NR=1

Still an awesome time

greenfoam · 21-04-2009, 06:47 AM

Here's that 9 second twin turbo ecotec I mentioned

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPtGR...eature=related

vanman_75 · 21-04-2009, 08:49 AM

im humbled a 9 second ecobrick ,and it still sounds like ....