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Old 12-02-2010, 07:28 PM   #31
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the only thing thats stops young people taking big risks , and only to some degree are parents upbringing of the child . then the child has to take/ make calculated risks . its part of life , and immaturity / inexperience catches out some people .
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Old 12-02-2010, 07:31 PM   #32
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not a matter of makin it harder to get a license, but better training should be a part of it. To get a bike license you have to do a rider safe course, which is a very good course, I dont understand why an advanced driver course isnt part of the licensing system!! Yeh it costs, but whats a couple a hundred on top of the thousand it costs anyway. That is of course for those who bother to get that piece of plastic! For those who dont, all the laws in the world wont save them!!!

too true .
i really wish that the taxpayers funded hoon driving in controlled circumstances such as racing circuits etc with huge support encouragement and interest . that way kids and anyone else wouldnt have to see what their car can do that one time . on the roads .
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Old 12-02-2010, 07:46 PM   #33
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Asking how to stop kids from killing themselves is like asking how to stop people dieing in jet cashes...
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Old 12-02-2010, 09:23 PM   #34
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And yet his tongue-in-cheek answer "Nothing", is the most honest and refreshing view I've heard on the topic in a long time.
i don't think it was tongue in cheek.
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Old 12-02-2010, 09:31 PM   #35
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He's going to get raped by the media for that comment. No matter how right/realistic it was.
He loves controversy, and that will put him in the spot light. Just like his comment on the the Volkswagon Scirocco. Berlin to Warsaw on one tank.....

I saw the ACA interview, and I agree with his comments. What was Tracey thinking? He has a magic cure for the young drivers getting killed? Interesting Clarkson point was that if they raised the legal driving age to over 30, it would still be a problem.
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Old 12-02-2010, 10:04 PM   #36
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As some one else mentioned, if you like Clarkson in the interview get his books. They are filled with realistic, down to earth views on hundreds of topics. He is stupid and looking for a bite some of the time, but generally his views are refreshingly spot on.

I would have like to seen Tracy push him further as this interview was obviously set up to condemn TG for "Hooning" and the road toll. I wonder how much was edited out as there is some general niceties and then Tracy gets into the serious stuff with the Accident/deaths talk. I was expecting a big finger pointing section but really only had 2 questions. Good though.
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Old 12-02-2010, 10:14 PM   #37
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clarkson was clearly 'under the weather' too. admitted that he'd had a 'massive' night the night before.
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As some one else mentioned, if you like Clarkson in the interview get his books. They are filled with realistic, down to earth views on hundreds of topics. He is stupid and looking for a bite some of the time, but generally his views are refreshingly spot on.

I would have like to seen Tracy push him further as this interview was obviously set up to condemn TG for "Hooning" and the road toll. I wonder how much was edited out as there is some general niceties and then Tracy gets into the serious stuff with the Accident/deaths talk. I was expecting a big finger pointing section but really only had 2 questions. Good though.

No it was not setup to condemn hooning at all . It was setup to promote and remind people top gear is going to be on channel 9 in a couple of days. The interview was soft and played like a trailer.
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Old 12-02-2010, 11:24 PM   #39
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clarkson was clearly 'under the weather' too. admitted that he'd had a 'massive' night the night before.
I was about to say the same thing reading through this thread, wasn't he playing beach cricket with ACDC the day before?
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Timing is impeccable http://www.cnet.com.au/top-gear-shif...-339299205.htm

Still JC makes a great point.
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Old 13-02-2010, 11:26 AM   #41
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As I see it, a licence is a right of passage to some, and ultimately the P plater getting in trouble either disregards the laws, or gets drunk. Idiotic speeding (50 plus kmh over the limit) is brought on mainly by peer pressure to show off to his mates like that idiot in Victoria a couple of weeks ago.
Facts are, you'll never have any impact on kids until you do the following.

* Put police on the road to police drivers' behaviour. That means one pax on P1, P2 etc.
* Get rid of all the distractions in the young drivers cars ie GPS, phone, IPOD etc.
* On P2 only allow one Pax in the car, perhaps a baby (for the couples).
* On P1 allow only an adult above 25 years old as pax.
* Did I mention Police? Get out of the camera culture and actually observe/guide behaviours.
* Issue significant fines for breach of passenger restrictions.
* Police the roads, police youths and cars, police, police, police.
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Old 13-02-2010, 04:11 PM   #42
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unfortunately large chunks of the community in Australia do no wrong but are influenced to do things that after they have done them and it hits the fan its discovered the things they were doing were the result of somebody else telling them to so nothing is ever their fault if you ask me those people needed to be handed a bag of rapid set and a spoon to harden them up real fast.

Clarkson is just an easy target to pin the blame of somebodies' stupidity on.

on the subject why don't the courts have some rapid set as well and not accept these lame excuses from law breakers be lenient on those that have the nuts to admit they screwed up and nail those to the wall that bleet "somebody made me do it"

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Old 13-02-2010, 05:07 PM   #43
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Preposterous.
If they can draw a link here then I should be able to sue Hustler for giving my wrist carpel tunnel syndrome.
Lets launch a class action...G6ET owners vs Larry Flynt!
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As some one else mentioned, if you like Clarkson in the interview get his books. They are filled with realistic, down to earth views on hundreds of topics. He is stupid and looking for a bite some of the time, but generally his views are refreshingly spot on.

I would have like to seen Tracy push him further as this interview was obviously set up to condemn TG for "Hooning" and the road toll. I wonder how much was edited out as there is some general niceties and then Tracy gets into the serious stuff with the Accident/deaths talk. I was expecting a big finger pointing section but really only had 2 questions. Good though.
Poor old Tracy Grimshaw doesn't have the killer punch and Clarkson is so disarming with his answers,
she had nothing to work with and Clarkson lead her around all the topics anyway.

Saying there's nothing you can do about young people getting killed on the road was perfect.
You can preach responsibility all you want, legislate all you like but young people
will still make bad judgment calls and pay the ultimate price.

As for hooning, all of TG's high powered testing is done on closed race tracks under supervision
with emergency crews standing by,t no time do they encourage people to drive like that on public roads.
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Old 13-02-2010, 09:04 PM   #45
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Poor old Tracy Grimshaw doesn't have the killer punch and Clarkson is so disarming with his answers,
she had nothing to work with and Clarkson lead her around all the topics anyway.

Saying there's nothing you can do about young people getting killed on the road was perfect.
You can preach responsibility all you want, legislate all you like but young people
will still make bad judgment calls and pay the ultimate price.

As for hooning, all of TG's high powered testing is done on closed race tracks under supervision
with emergency crews standing by,t no time do they encourage people to drive like that on public roads.
Agreed, was just not what i was expecting.
Shows like ACA have to bring some controversy to the table to get viewers. I just went into the interview expecting them to point the finger for hooning or something to condemn motorists as evil. Maybe it really was just marketing by 9 for TG's channel hop. Makes sense, but using ACA is suprising. As you stated TG have a test track and can get roads closed for their testing, but idiots will still try to imitate them. : I thought they would bring that argument up.

I know i wanted to fly a jet and wear aviators after i saw top gun. lol :
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