Spoke to a XR5 Turbo owner today...

XR5-Boy · 18-10-2008, 12:15 AM

Hi all,

Spoke to a guy today at the local shops. XR5 Mondeo in chill or thunder i think, parked infront of our stardust one. He came over and had a quick chat about the cars. Apparently he's got the powerchip installed. 192kws. only issue is a bit of torque steer

So if you're on the forum, good to chat with someone who's into their Modneo as much as we are

Cheers

George

warren77 · 18-10-2008, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Cougar-Boy

Hi all,
. Apparently he's got the powerchip installed. 192kws. only issue is a bit of torque steer

Some say issue, others say great fun ;-)

XR5-Boy · 18-10-2008, 11:30 AM

that's what i was thinking

apstar · 18-10-2008, 12:19 PM

Isn't that technically modifying the car as far as Insurance is concerned y/n?

apstar

XR5-Boy · 18-10-2008, 06:37 PM

Yep, does count. you've changed the car's performance from the factory settings.

Lord Viykor · 18-10-2008, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by apstar

Isn't that technically modifying the car as far as Insurance is concerned y/n?

apstar

I asked RACQ if they'd insure me if I chipped my Mondeo they said no and when I did on online quote with AAMI I put in that it 'was' chipped and it came out at a cheaper price than RACQ offered. Insurers must look at it differently, you'd think they'd have a standard view on chipping an engine.

When I was talking with RACQ they also said I could lower the car up to 40mm before they would not insure it.

apstar · 18-10-2008, 11:24 PM

Don't trust them one bit unless it's in writing,they will get you under the "Disclosure" statement

apstar

paulie0735 · 19-10-2008, 01:39 PM

There is no way the insurance companies can trace an ECU modification. Not even the dealers can get that far into the software, only the factory software engineers can, so any serious power train failure is gunna come out of your own pocket, but insurance! nuh, don't see that being an issue.

apstar · 19-10-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by paulie0735

There is no way the insurance companies can trace an ECU modification. Not even the dealers can get that far into the software, only the factory software engineers can, so any serious power train failure is gunna come out of your own pocket, but insurance! nuh, don't see that being an issue.

But if the ECU modification is done during the 3 year warranty period it should therefore be covered based on what you said about the dealer? now I admit I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to cars so can say the TDCi take the extra grunt!

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paulie0735 · 19-10-2008, 05:52 PM

This is the subject of much debate but the dealer guys don't have the full read / write access to the ECU, they can flash an update and diagnose faults etc but they can't get far enough in to detect the mods........ but the factory boys can!! Minor claims are not gunna be a problem but any serious power train claim will likely come to the attention of the factory engineers so it’s reasonable to assume that they will download the PCM to 'have a look'. Remember the dealer does not carry the warranty, they just do the work but before any warranty work is carried out it must first be approved by the factory and that’s when your gunna have problems with a claim.

paulie0735 · 19-10-2008, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by apstar

.............so can say the TDCi take the extra grunt!

apstar

Not sure what’s available here for the Diesel but most modern diesel cars can be fitted with any of a wide variety of add in boxes, these are all based on interrupting the signals to the ecu and as a result more fuel is pushed into the engine and with a diesel its all about fuel delivery, if you can squeeze more fuel in than you get more power out, its about as simple as that. They do tend to run dirty and will increase fuel consumption but how much more torque can the power train handle? No idea!!

apstar · 19-10-2008, 09:22 PM

Thanks I'm a little bit sharper nice to know these little bits of info ;)

apstar

911 XR6 · 23-07-2010, 09:00 AM

FYI - My mate has had a nightmare with his XR5 Turbo and Powerchip in Melbourne the ECU company... his car developed a nasty stutter and when he tried to get a refund he was denied his money back because it was outside of the 14-day money back guarantee period by 2 days!

So now he has to have a reflash done by the dealer (added cost) and he is out over $1000 hard earned bucks!

I did some research and the guys at autospeed had a similar problem so I advised him to go to the ACCC - and so should everyone else with problems on their Powerchip cars IMO

entheos · 23-07-2010, 09:23 AM

interesting...cause I haven't read that many issues with the powerchip....mind you most mondy xr5 owners have gone the way of Bluefin...

warren77 · 23-07-2010, 01:15 PM

About 2,000km into using bluefin.
No issues at all.
Slightly better fuel economy as well.

Oh wait, I do have an issue.
I want MORE power!

apstar · 23-07-2010, 02:54 PM

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