LT 2007 Focus TDCI looking to purchase

Freddy121 · 17-10-2010, 06:52 PM

All

Looking to purchase a Ford Focus, and thought I would join this forum and ask the experts here.

The questions I have is :-

Is there any difference in the 2007 LT TDCI and 2008 LT TDCI.

I have noticed the 2007 LT TDCI when turning the ignition to the ON position results in some beeps, this after checking online is due to not putting on the drivers seatbelt, how come this does not happen in the 2008 version.

Is the 2007 version too close to the LS version, hence would rather leave this alone?

Thanks for any words of advice that can be offered

Freddy

marg99 · 18-10-2010, 09:37 AM

One main advanatge of the 2007 model diesel is it has no particulate filter. These things stop the black soot from leaving the exhaust and "burn" it by injecting extra fuel. They are a potential source of problems. Nissan SUVs have heaps of fuel consumption issues because of their filter although have not heard of any with focus yet. Also you need a different oil for the motor with those.

Freddy121 · 18-10-2010, 07:47 PM

Thanks, I heard about these DPFs, Still hunting around for information on the TDCI, however at this time, I have not read many bad posts about them.

Will continue checking before I do get one...

kevino · 19-10-2010, 06:50 PM

I have a CL petrol 2006 Focus 5 speeed and a 2008 TDCI 6 speed. Apart from tyre noise from the original Goodyears (and no sign of wear at 40000) the diesel is a great car. 5.2ltrs/100km on highway and 6.4ltrs/100km on round town only work.
Bags of torque -these cars do cruise. At 110km/hr the petrol is revving at 3100rpm the diesel about 2050rpm. I am forever looking for gear 6 in the petrol car.
Petrol car 6.5 highway and 7.8 round town. Both have given no faults or trouble whatsoever except for 1 blown headlight bulb and brakes due on the petrol at 85000kms.

Freddy121 · 19-10-2010, 07:35 PM

All

Thanks for all your words of wisdom, I purchased a 2007 TDCI today, its gots just under 70,000kms, but in fair condition.

I agree its got alot of torque and is really fun to drive, looking forward to driving it more this weekend,

Yeah....

casabonka · 19-10-2010, 08:26 PM

Dont forget to post pics when you can!
Congrats on the purchase

Freddy121 · 20-10-2010, 07:40 PM

Yep, will get some pics out, just need to give it a good clean, sounds like some weekend work

Also, since I am new to the Diesels, what is the optimum REV range to change gears, I am currently shifting at 2000RPM, is this right?

Is there any suggestions for driving styles that suit this, to get the best economy.

kevino · 20-10-2010, 09:01 PM

Yep changing at 2000rpm will give you great economy.
They will lug back to about 1200rpm but underthis there is nothing.
If you want acceleration rather than economy I work on 3000rpm, anything above this is just sending unburnt fuel out the exhaust pipe.
You will find the required accelerator/clutch match at take off is an acquired art.
When you stall one it certainly tells you most unlike a petrol stall.

Turbodiesel · 21-10-2010, 06:56 PM

It's good up to 4000rpm and loves hills. You can also take off just by using the clutch.

Putting your foot down in 6th gear at 100km/h is great fun

Dustproof · 22-10-2010, 08:01 PM

I agree, 100/110kph is great fun and no effort at all. I was told the torque value is roughly what a XW 302 falcon is, not bad considering I get 4.4l/100kph on a country drive.

Has anyone tried the various tuning boxes? are they a waist of time and money or do they actually work on the TDCi. If you want to punt a TDCi around a track you will need to do plenty of gear changes to keep it on the boil.

I love my TDCi

kevino · 22-10-2010, 09:14 PM

I would be too scared to chip one of these engines. I would lose my license.
I reckon that motor is way understressed in the focus and could be rocket ship material with chip.

Have you wheelspun it in1 and 2 yet?

Loris · 24-10-2010, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kevino

When you stall one it certainly tells you most unlike a petrol stall.

LOL im glad its not just my car which does this.. mine really thumps forward when it stalls, i hate it.. very different from a petrol stall

Loris · 24-10-2010, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dustproof

Has anyone tried the various tuning boxes? are they a waist of time and money or do they actually work on the TDCi.

I would stay away from them.. for the money they dont do very much.. mine was also constantly giving me engine faults\limp home mode when accelerating hard

Dustproof · 25-10-2010, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Loris

LOL im glad its not just my car which does this.. mine really thumps forward when it stalls, i hate it.. very different from a petrol stall

I use the smart idle in traffic to roll down the road, easy to just slip the clutch and roll along. I found I can do it up hills too, it takes a bit to stall the Diesel.

I was just interested in the Tuning box and thought a little more power and torque is always welcome, what model/brand is yours?

I read an article about getting 400BHP from the 2.0L focus engine, a decent Intercooler, a free flowing exhaust and tune will give the best rewards without too much fuss. Now there are cams, different turbos, porting and bigger injectors, the problem is to do this you need to pull the engine down and strengthen to bottom end and rods etc.

Loris · 27-10-2010, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dustproof

I was just interested in the Tuning box and thought a little more power and torque is always welcome, what model/brand is yours?

Got mine from this mob: http://www.tdi-tuning.co.uk/
Returned it about 2 weeks later

Freddy121 · 27-10-2010, 08:57 PM

Thanks for the info, on this thread, I am learning heaps, never knew about this smart idle.

I am definitely enjoying driving the diesels torque...

Dustproof · 28-10-2010, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Freddy121

Thanks for the info, on this thread, I am learning heaps, never knew about this smart idle.

I am definitely enjoying driving the diesels torque...

This is only the beginning, wait until you are used to the clutch and gears. I got mine new and I have now got 40,000Km's and it goes better than ever now. I have recently tried using 20% Bio Diesel and love the stuff, a little more power and economy and the engine is quieter. Just to prove it to myself I tried a tank of regular diesel and it was back to ordinary again, I travel 40k's to get the Bio Diesel but it is worth it when my tank of fuel lasts a month, it is also a couple of cents cheaper and the car feels happier.

kevino · 29-10-2010, 09:06 PM

Note you void your warranty using 20% bio diesel.

Dustproof · 30-10-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kevino

Note you void your warranty using 20% bio diesel.

I think my Focus is out of warranty anyway, I have never been able to find out what the policy is from Ford. I don't think it will make any difference to the running or reliability of the car. It feels a lot better to drive though, less clatter from the engine and smoother.

kevino · 30-10-2010, 07:27 PM

Yeah there is a few owner drivers running heavy trucks with big diesels where I work running the 20% no problems.