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Bathed In A Yellow Glow
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VFII SS UTE
Join Date: Apr 2007
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so the switch went from on to off, I wonder how much junk and fluffy toys were on said key rings...
doesn't sound right to me.
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Brad
Join Date: Jul 2010
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This ignition switch saga has been going on for ages now and is costing them mega dollars, look like it just cost them even more.
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I ♥ EDM
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But GM will still be Mom & Apple Pie.
They can do no wrong. |
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Brad
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By the government....
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Oct 2005
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I always wondered what 124 innocent people's lives were worth. March on corporate greed.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Quite a few car companies have had similar problems.
Ford with the famous pinto case, Bronco II rollovers, Explorer and the delaminating tyres. Toyota with the ecu problems and sticking carpet mats. Subaru with cruise control not disengaging, covering it up and executives going to jail. |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2005
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I wonder how many cars sold it would take to make 1.2 billion profit, that has got to hurt.
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Virtuous Bogan (TM)
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Wonder if they cheaped out by 50 cents on the component..ouch
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That's the exact reason why it happened. They saved a bucket load by using the cheaper ignition barrel.....well at the time.
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Toyota with the front suspension failing and killing about 9 people. Then we have the Airbag issue which effects all the Japanese car manufactures. VW stalling motors.
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So you get drunk, get in your truck and drive without your seatbelt on, speed, roll your truck over and break your neck, winding up paralysed. Well obviously that is somebody else's fault, and you can sue the truck maker because their airbags didn't protect you from your stupidity. If that doesn't work, sue the government department responsible for the road, or the person who's property you rolled in to, or the bar that let you get drunk. Many times, these corporations are NOT the evil monsters portrayed. Simple fact in the USA is that if you make a product, and sell it to the public, you WILL be sued. You can make toothbrushes, and somebody will sue you because a fellow-prisoner used one to fashion a shiv and stabbed them. So making allowances for law-suits and settlements is SIMPLY a fact of life, not an acknowledgement that your product is dangerous. So what you basically have is a society where everything costs much more than it should, and the mass-tort lawyers and serial compo claimers become zillionaires.
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GM wont pay a dime, the US Taxpayer will.
As pointed out Government Motors. |
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also there was the fuel tank bursting into flames on chev trucks that could have been fixed by installing them inside the rails , but having a bigger fuel capacity was big sales plus apparently. |
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Oh...so the ignition "suddenly" changed position? Sure it did.
![]() Is this going to be anything like the "Toyota suddenly accelerating vehicle" "problem" that was actually just idiots doing the wrong thing with their cars? Remember the very high profile one where a guy was in a Lexus with cruise control on and claimed it "wouldn't disengage" and was fearfully talking on the mobile phone until finally he crashed and died? Everyone who saw the news report spotted the problem straight away...No one of course thought to say "HIT THE BRAKES, MORON...", or "TRY TURNING OFF THE IGNITION"... How many more companies are going to be punished for the lack of interest in driving that their customers so blatantly exhibit...? |
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Glen Waverley, Vic
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From what I understand the ignition key issue was due to the weight of key chains hanging off the ignition key. How much is too much? 500g? 750g? 1kg? Some people have a lot of keys. Then the additional wear damages the lock to the point where the contacts bounce as the car drives along. Then those glitches on the ignition line confuse the airbag module leading to false triggering...
As for the Toyota unintended acceleration issue, if you have a high-end model with automatic transmission, push button start and 100% software between you and the drivetrain, then I wouldn't discount the reports.
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No it doesn't. But about 90%. Really doesn't matter as that wasn't the point.
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