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the laser beam was probably mixed up in all three vehicles.
but that's past, 1st fine ever for no reason. |
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I don't disagree... in fact, I strongly agree... but that doesn't mean that some bright spark pollie that is looking to get some brownie points won't introduce the idea... with all the media attention, it won't take too much to get it through. Some recent comments by Premier Brumby, as reported at http://www.theage.com.au/national/jo...l?autostart=1: Quote:
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I think all that can be said has been.
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i am not the only one getting of track, what is there are limit here to how much you can post? , come on i never hear that "getting of track" in real life while chatting to 10 or more people about what ever in relationship to vehicles.
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is this statement relevant? , see , i do the same and i get punished for it:( it doesn't take a degree in literature to work it out. |
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The guy in the BF didn't have his license, unregistered etc, no amount of laws are going to keep him off the road, a car accident will, and thats the sad point of it all. Look at it the other way, how many lives have been saved with the invention of the automobile?? I would definetly say more. |
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http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/news/la...ZhbGw9MQ%3D%3D Good reading here
Highlight is the 21yo being caught driving Porsche Cayenne GTS Turbo at 181km/h in a 110 zone. For comparison, the minimum speed required to keep a Boeing 737 airborne is 190km/h. Again, I ask, why do we have cars that can go this fast. Is there a genuine reason? |
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My first point is to pass on my heartfelt condolences to those affected by this horror, family ,friends ,aquaintances, and particularly the emergency response crews who deal with this on a far too frequent basis. I have 2 teenage children ready to sit for their tests, and I, like all parents ,pray this is not the outcome for my kids. At this point it is hardly relevant wether our kids cause this stuff, or are unwilling victims of it. I wonder how much of this carnage could be avoided if we ,as parents, took the responsibility of really engaging with our kids, talking/listening to them, knowing their mates, knowing where they are at 2am.... A lot of us seem to rely too much on authorities (school,police, courts.to look out for their diciplining) Second point, am I the only one who thinks the apparent attempt to justify the actions in the above "edit" is somewhat frightening?
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I'm sure there are many that believe exceeding the limit by 28km/h on a straight stretch of divided highway, likely deserted, is one and the same as exceeding the limit by 60+km/h through suburban streets, weaving around other vehicles with an overloaded vehicle and passengers hanging out of windows. I'm not one of them. EDIT: Just noticed it was a 100km/h zone, not 110, so 38km/h over the limit... but my point still stands, it's not the same thing - so the punishment shouldn't be the same, and the media shouldn't be trying to make it out to be the same. Last edited by balthazarr; 19-01-2010 at 03:26 PM. |
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There is absolutely no reason to have family cars that can do 180km/h+. Before anyone jumps up and down about legitimate drag racing being hindered by this, anyone that wants to race could simply get their car flashed to allow higher speeds for drag racing. Yes this would allow cars to get around the safety feature, but not many mums and dads would go getting their car flashed, so it would remove some of the possibilities of this in future. Maybe this could link in with the smart card idea from earlier on in this thread so when you get to the track, an official will swipe their card to unlock your car for the event, then as you leave they can swipe it again putting it back to 'public roads' programming. |
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May as well speed limit cars to 10kp/h, seems some people can't even control their car at low speeds:
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Just a small example. I wonder how many people were killed or maimed from being thrown off a horse, or similiar? Only more accidents because populations have grown access to a car is quite easy to get your hands on. Imagine if everyone had horses on the road in 2010, much easier to have an accident on a horse. Controlling a beast is harder then controlling a machine. |
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as i said, cars up to 1000cc to be the only cars allowed to all P plate drivers and up to 1500cc for good behaving ones.
Another thing , Police should have the engine TURN OFF system for all cars that have electronic fuel injection and sat nav system so they can turn the car off and stop the pursuit if a pursuit occurs, or simply limit the cars speed and power depending on the ZONE and the road, something that pit stops have had for many years now in motor racing or in Japan where you can not go over a certain limit, but once you cross to the race track it enables your car to full potential where you can speed legally as much as you want. |
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There will be no one-fix-for-all solution for this problem, it will be a multiple-fronted attack if you wish. With each little step hopefully reducing road trauma without reducing fun, or restricting everyday life too much. |
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Limiting p-platers to 1000cc-1500cc cars will not do anything, niether will banning rwd cars for p-platers.
Don't know about you, but many jap ricers are awd, and alot of people love going 120km/h around corners in them. FWD cars are marginally unsafe compared to RWD. I would MUCH rather loose control in a RWD car then a FWD drive. Your all missing the point, this is a minority, not the majority. There will always be ways to kill yourself in a car. Taking p-platers out of safer larger cars and putting them in smaller unsafe cars is plain stupid. |
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yes. just imagine an EGG, you hold it up and then you let go , it brakes in to pieces and stuff comes out. that is how every car behaves no matter whether its $13999 or $450000 worth, if you speed and lose control it wont save you. |
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Anything usefull has being posted i think, it's starting to drift way of course now....
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