Great Wall Motors. Any good? - Page 2

wrongwaynorris · 01-07-2010, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Iggypoppin'

The tradies at work aren't too keen on them, a few older blokes have them, and don't seem to have any complaints. That being said, they also have no compliments. They're just a work truck.
I hate the ads though. The bloke touting his "great deal" looks like he copped a wallop to the eye.

Looks like he's copped a wallop to another part of his anatomy !!!!!

FreddyDUZ747 · 04-06-2010, 01:16 AM

I can see the attraction to tradies ect starting out a new buisness with next to all money being poored into it to get it up and running.These will provide them with trouble free(hopefully)transport thats fully covered whilst getting back on their feet from the initial layouts,the KIA Pregio of utes,lol.

JazManXII · 04-06-2010, 01:58 AM

i heard that they have like zero power and are terrible at carrying a load or towing anything

again that is just from what i have heard

MexicanBatman · 04-06-2010, 02:47 AM

Hey don't bag out Chinese cars

The VE commodore is a good thing. Lol

**DJR-351** · 04-06-2010, 04:17 AM

My neighbor bought 2 a month ago for his building buisness and took delivery of a third last week, they ticked all the boxes for what he wanted....to many people are quick to sneer at this sort of stuff without actually ever sitting in one, anyhow if i had a use for a small 4wd dual cab i would snap one up today....

**buggerlugs** · 04-06-2010, 07:19 AM

What about the Mahindra or whatevere its called . The indian ute. I have a customer, a pineapple farmer who has had one now for over 2 years and he can't kill it. Loves it and they go anywhere. I was sceptical to, but as they say "The proof is in the pudding"

LTDterri · 04-06-2010, 09:38 AM

I think they are priced right and for many they will get the job done. I bought a new Hyundai back in 1991, it ran a Mitubishi engine back then, although soft in the suspension, most reliable car I ever had only issue I had was fuel pump crapped itself in hot weather, fixed with an aftermarket my mechanic shoved in. I copped alot of flack when I bought that thing I kept it for 150000km and never blew any smoke and sold it with the original clutch still working well. Give it a chance guys, sure it's not for everyone, but in 15 years they may be a well regarded car as the Hyundai is today.

JimNiki · 04-06-2010, 09:43 AM

There's 2 types of people in this world.
Those that would buy it and those that won't!

whatever the hell that means!
I personally am old school and would never buy a Chinese or Korean badged car.
You know what, if I was hard up on moola, I'd buy a 3 or 5 year old Aussie built car!
What's wrong with that...? C'mon ... where's the Aussie pride...?

BOSHOG · 04-06-2010, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JimNiki

There's 2 types of people in this world.
Those that would buy it and those that won't!

whatever the hell that means!
I personally am old school and would never buy a Chinese or Korean badged car.
You know what, if I was hard up on moola, I'd buy a 3 or 5 year old Aussie built car!
What's wrong with that...? C'mon ... where's the Aussie pride...?

you started this thread so you have no right to bag out peoples answers. just like a lot of your threads, they are aimed at starting arguments.

JimNiki · 04-06-2010, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BOSHOG

you started this thread so you have no right to bag out peoples answers. just like a lot of your threads, they are aimed at starting arguments.

Argue over whether chinese cars are better than Aussie made cars?

aaahhhmmm??? let me think about which is better!?

We're not talking about absolute quality, we all know it's crap!
(tell me one thing the chinese make which is a world leader!)
We're only swapping thoughts on perceived value for money...

ie. what the majority of mum's and dad's here who are ready to buy an SUV people mover but only had 24k to spend..

would they buy this vehicle new (post topic) or another used one (3-5 years old with ext warranty). I'm just curious as to how people think.
There's no right or wrong answers here (which is why there should be no argument anyway). I have my personal opnion and I'm expressing it.
By all means, don't agree with it , but respect the fact that I'm entitled to it...

cheers...

sudszy · 19-06-2011, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JimNiki

I'm just curious as to how people think.
There's no right or wrong answers here (which is why there should be no argument anyway). I have my personal opnion and I'm expressing it.
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I actually thought you wanted to know whether anyone knew GWM was any good?

but all you really wanted to find out was how people think?

sewing seeds for "lets make a chinese stuff is crap, buy aussie" rant?

flappist · 04-06-2010, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JimNiki

There's 2 types of people in this world.
Those that would buy it and those that won't!

whatever the hell that means!
I personally am old school and would never buy a Chinese or Korean badged car.
You know what, if I was hard up on moola, I'd buy a 3 or 5 year old Aussie built car!
What's wrong with that...? C'mon ... where's the Aussie pride...?

Says the guy with the MUSTANG..........

JimNiki · 04-06-2010, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

Says the guy with the MUSTANG..........

c'mon man! It's a ford ... bought a BA for the Mrs...always been a ford man.
cheers.

I'm still trying to hear from someone who's driven the SUV but.

PANELCORP · 04-06-2010, 10:47 AM

No

Not saying another word

Hardtopxb · 04-06-2010, 11:00 AM

A mate of mine and I were at the 4x4 wreckers the other day and there was a Great Wall bieng wrecked, he could not get over all the internal and external parts that would have been interchangeable with his Holden Colarado

**FTE217** · 04-06-2010, 11:10 AM

I recall the same said about the Hyundais/Kias - and long before through the 70's about Japanese brands......
They will only improve.......

Jondalar · 04-06-2010, 11:38 AM

I just checked the ANCAP site and the SA 220 and V240 are both still 2 stars. No way I'd buy a 2 star car. I followed one in traffic and up a small hill it seemed to really struggle to hold speed compared to small 4cyl cars.

I definitely wouldn't have one now, maybe in 5 years they'll have improved.

4Vman · 04-06-2010, 12:55 PM

Don't underestimate the Chinese... They may be the experts at "build to price" but they have the technology and ability to build premium too....
Ive seen some of their production facilities and they're second to none when it comes to the latest equipment and manufacturing technology.
Dont just "assume" because its made in China its bad.....

Jondalar · 04-06-2010, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

Don't underestimate the Chinese... They may be the experts at "build to price" but they have the technology and ability to build premium too....
Ive seen some of their production facilities and they're second to none when it comes to the latest equipment and manufacturing technology.
Dont just "assume" because its made in China its bad.....

Agreed, the iPhone is a classic example, feels "rolls royce" but made in China.

StrokedXT · 04-06-2010, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

Don't underestimate the Chinese... They may be the experts at "build to price" but they have the technology and ability to build premium too....
Ive seen some of their production facilities and they're second to none when it comes to the latest equipment and manufacturing technology.
Dont just "assume" because its made in China its bad.....

Yes but the topic is about a vehicle that is built to a price and has no pretensions of being a premium product, so will all you fellas actually buy one and transport your family around in a 2 star rated vehicle or just keep telling anyone who says its junk that they are wrong?

Also interesting is those claiming isuzu build the body panels, Great wall seem to disagree so i guess they wasted all that money tooling up to have it sitting in a factory doing nothing while they buy panels from isuzu.

4Vman · 04-06-2010, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jeep_by_ford

Yes but the topic is about a vehicle that is built to a price and has no pretensions of being a premium product, so will all you fellas actually buy one and transport your family around in a 2 star rated vehicle or just keep telling anyone who says its junk that they are wrong?

Also interesting is those claiming isuzu build the body panels, Great wall seem to disagree so i guess they wasted all that money tooling up to have it sitting in a factory doing nothing while they buy panels from isuzu.

There was an allegation made that because it was made in china it must automatically be rubbish, i was merely pointing out that that wasn't always the case.
"Fit for purpose" is a word id use to describe one of these utes, ive looked at them as a work run about and they seem to be a good cheap alternative to a second hand hilux etc....

naddis01 · 04-06-2010, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jeep_by_ford

Yes but the topic is about a vehicle that is built to a price and has no pretensions of being a premium product, so will all you fellas actually buy one and transport your family around in a 2 star rated vehicle or just keep telling anyone who says its junk that they are wrong?

The whole safety argument is a dud in relation to the X240 (the 4x4 wagon) having only 2 stars. As I am sure I have said before IT HAS A 4 STAR RATING. The same as many late and current model vehicles from other brands.

vztrt · 04-06-2010, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

Don't underestimate the Chinese... They may be the experts at "build to price" but they have the technology and ability to build premium too....
Ive seen some of their production facilities and they're second to none when it comes to the latest equipment and manufacturing technology.
Dont just "assume" because its made in China its bad.....

With foreign investment (companies) it is. Otherwise their reverse engineering is second to none.

dannyhilton · 04-06-2010, 01:01 PM

It's funny, a few decades ago everyone said they would NEVER buy a Japanese car, now Toyota is the largest manufacturer in the world. A decade ago everyone sneered at the Koreans, now Hyundai is the fastest growing manufacturer in the world. Go figure. Give them time and the Chinese will be a mighty force. While I agree their cars are quite basic, they are cheap, and do what most will want of them. I still wouldn't touch one with a ten foot pole, but then again I drive a car made in Germany, from an American company that's distributed by Ford Australia.

JimNiki · 04-06-2010, 01:08 PM

You mean that American company invention which builds in China to save money.
(what on earth has that got to do with Chinese ingenuity?)

forgive me but I don't think the pennie's dropped yet...

4Vman · 04-06-2010, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JimNiki

You mean that American company invention which builds in China to save money.
(what on earth has that got to do with Chinese ingenuity?)

forgive me but I don't think the pennie's dropped yet...

So the purpose of this thread is what again???

Scott · 04-06-2010, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JimNiki

You mean that American company invention which builds in China to save money.
(what on earth has that got to do with Chinese ingenuity?)

forgive me but I don't think the pennie's dropped yet...

Chinese ingenuity is alive and well, they may not have any imagination but give them an answer and they'll engineer a way to get you there - better than just about anyone else will.

SVTVNM · 04-06-2010, 01:35 PM

Drove past one of the SUV's yesterday in a dark red/burgandy colour and I actually had to look twice, looks alot better in the flesh, If I had to choose between that and a SSanyong, teh Great Wall would be the pick.

Scott · 04-06-2010, 01:09 PM

Is it made in China or made in Thailand like the rest of the Rodeo/Colorado/D Max?

Thailand I would have thought.

RedHotGT · 04-06-2010, 01:34 PM

Jim...

Its all about the target market...

If China are good at ANYTHING - its exploiting a market...

Great Wall have not pitched that ute at anyone other than business who want a work horse... How long to businesses lease cars for?? 2-3 years?? (so long as the car lasts that long - they'll have saved money on buying a hilux/navara/other)...

So - kudos to them for testing the waters... and I think that you will see more and more of them on the road...

Same with the Kluger/Terri type car (can't remember what its called)...
They'll target exactly who they want... and guarantee they will sell shiploads (read:sh!tloads) of them...

Small range initially to test out the market, and them BANG there will be a Great Wall rival to every dominant selling car out there...

On a personal note - would I buy one?? No... but I'm not in their target audience... so they (and I) couldn't care less about each other...