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21-02-2017, 10:27 AM | #31 | ||
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A bloke goes out of his way to kill someone and there are people in this society that will make excuses for him, likely help to keep him out of gaol so he can do it again.
Don't know what is worse, the bloke trying to kill you or the brain dead muppet doing is best to make excuses for him so he can avoid gaol and do it again when life get too hard.... Beggars belief.... |
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21-02-2017, 11:07 AM | #32 | ||||
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Whats with some of the details in the articles.....
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21-02-2017, 12:57 PM | #33 | |||
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21-02-2017, 01:33 PM | #34 | ||
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What a terrible situation for all involved.
I lost my cousin (whom I was closest to in the family) to a suicide car crash many years ago. He took the family car and smashed into a tree late at night. Killing himself instantly thankfully no one else. It devastated the family and the extended family for years (his Mum still has trouble talking about him). What I don't understand in this convo though is, when has anyone said that this guy shouldn't be held accountable to his actions? Nothing is said in the 2 initial links, and no one has said that he should be allowed to get off scott free. So this notion that the do gooders will somehow keep him from the consequences is just stupid and ignorant. I agree that this guy needs to be put away for a very long time, but I'm also not naive enough to think that he wasn't effected by something else, be it drugs, alcohol, abuse, mental issue, whatever. I've spent many hundreds of hours talking with youth who want to end it, and yet none of them where 100% fine and dandy until they attempted or were brought to the attention of a school or adult etc. There's always a trigger, and usually is something that has plagued them for a good length of time. If you wanna get angry at someone for letting offenders like this get off easy (again at no point has anyone said he would or should), maybe you should start directing your opinions to the legal representatives.
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21-02-2017, 04:46 PM | #35 | ||
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21-02-2017, 06:09 PM | #36 | ||||
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This guy was out to injure others as well. So it doesn't matter whether he had a mental illness all not. He is not right in the head and deserve punishment, even if it's just to protect the community. Some witnesses said he was laughing and jumping around in his car like he was excited with what he was doing. If you have a mental illness that makes you act like that, you should not be free to run loose in society. Quote:
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21-02-2017, 10:38 PM | #37 | ||
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Horrific considering i know people who use those roads all the time and it could have easily have been them caught in this scumbags path.
Happend outside Capel where people have firearms. Either shoot the **** or drag him behind a car back to wonnerup beach by the neck and be done with it. He deserves nothing more. But of course this is Australia so he will be fine and be out to do it again in no time unless somebody does society a favour and uses a pillow at night in the hospital......
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21-02-2017, 10:40 PM | #38 | |||
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I personally have contemplated suicide a few times and at that point in time nothing else mattered. I'm not looking for sob stories here, just speaking from experience. If you have never gone through this yourself please refrain from putting your 2 cents in as even I would not be willing to pay that piddly sum to you. Keep doing what your doing mate and one day you might be normal. All the best |
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21-02-2017, 11:02 PM | #39 | |||
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Instead of putting a bullet to the guy's head maybe it would help if after serving a severe punishment, he actually gets the right help in order for him to realise his wrong-doings and he can actually makes things better once in a proper state of mind. You never know, once rehabilitated, this guy could actually be a benefit to society and spend the rest of his life making things better for both his and the wider community. My main point is that he must be suffering from a severe mental illness which has obviously caused him to do what he had done. Yes many other suicidal people end their life without causing any form of distress to other's however last time I checked there is no by the book way to end your life in a certain. Everyone is different at the end of the day. Apologies for thinking outside the square and que the typical responses from the brain dead muppets out there who fail to be able to read and still think I hope the guy should not be punished and should be free to do as he pleases since he has a mental illness. |
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21-02-2017, 11:08 PM | #40 | |||
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21-02-2017, 11:10 PM | #41 | ||
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Is drugs or Ice part of this problem ?? From my recent experience trying to help a friend.. This is what they do ...Mental and drug problem.. Drugs send these people mental.. I have to say the courts and Police are flat out with this problem . The jails are full .. Too much soft softy sentencing on second or so offences !!!
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21-02-2017, 11:21 PM | #42 | ||
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22-02-2017, 01:31 AM | #43 | |||
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22-02-2017, 07:11 AM | #44 | |||
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You do insist it was mental illness, is there proof of this? Just a curiosity here, is every murderer of innocent people a 'victim' of mental illness? Adolf Hitler? Osama Bin Laden? Any of the school massacre shooters? Martin Bryant? Could these people have done a gaol term then be released to be a 'benefit to society'? |
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22-02-2017, 10:14 AM | #45 | ||
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22-02-2017, 10:22 AM | #46 | ||
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22-02-2017, 10:31 AM | #47 | ||||
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You know he is suffering from a severe mental illness do you? I haven't read anything like that. But you get stuck into another poster for thinking he knows it all. Could be the guy is just an idiot that gives no ****s about himself or others. Its absurd to think you need to have been suicidal to have an opinion on this. Also, he has 4 Likes, so some of us agree with him. You may feel sympathy and thats fine, but more of us are probably disgusted with what he went and did. |
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22-02-2017, 10:53 AM | #48 | ||
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22-02-2017, 12:07 PM | #49 | |||
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However I cannot agree with the bold, I do believe that the perpetrator has a form of mental illness but having read all articles I can I would also have to factor in drug use which can make the symptoms exponentially worse. Which means you cannot place all blame on a mental illness as they must have been aware enough to voluntarily take the drugs if that is the case. There needs to be an intervention here and unfortunately I would argue in favour of criminal charges. Yes I do have slight mental illness myself and if I decided to get drunk or high to "ease the pain" then that's a voluntary action to put myself in that state and any criminal activity following this should be treated as such.
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22-02-2017, 07:31 PM | #51 | ||
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No, I've already explained myself so re-read my posts again. I have had more to say than just picking on spelling. Good on you for only being able to comprehend a few lines of a post and having a useless input. Your ability to comprehend written conversation is outstanding.
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22-02-2017, 07:35 PM | #52 | ||
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If we could get back on topic instead of personal bickering this thread may make it to three pages.
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22-02-2017, 07:49 PM | #53 | ||
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22-02-2017, 07:55 PM | #54 | |||
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From memory Hitler committed suicide, Osama Bin Laden is questionable and a lot of the people who commit massacres end up pulling the trigger on themselves any way. If you were happy and content with your own life would you suddenly decide to either mow down or shoot down a bunch of innocent people? I definitely would think no you wouldn't... |
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22-02-2017, 08:02 PM | #55 | |||
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22-02-2017, 08:02 PM | #56 | ||
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22-02-2017, 08:04 PM | #57 | ||
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Regardless of the frame of mind, it's all about the intention. An inatomate power pole could end it. Intentionally aiming at a car traveling the opposite direction doubling the reletive motion disregarding the other driver means said perp has at some point made a decision.
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22-02-2017, 08:13 PM | #58 | |||
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If the media tells you that you need to jump off a cliff then that must also be acceptable to you?. I do apologies for all of the above and I must be wrong since I do not rely on the media to tell me how it is. Using your own brain to figure things out would be useless since I didn't happen to tune in to the 6pm News Feed... |
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22-02-2017, 08:57 PM | #59 | ||
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Classic Fordforums bickering.
The perp needs to be put down regardless of his reasons. Premeditated murder, multiple counts of attempted murder, reckless driving and multiple counts of different things that fall under "hooning". End of story. Bit surprised he hasnt been sent to gaol yet under a hooning offense seeing as its Australia and one of the worst crimes anyone could commit here. I feel for the family and friends of the poor deceased lady. They will never ever get justice EVER and theyve had somebody taken away from their lives for NO reason whatsoever with NO fault of her own. She would have been in shock seeing that scumbag poor excuse for a human headed for her. He revoked his right (for ANY reason) to participate in society when he began aiming for cars.
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22-02-2017, 09:14 PM | #60 | ||
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Its all a shame.
What I find interesting is that the statistics that this bloke has caused will go down in the roadtoll as "speed related". And so with the 50% or single car accidents (that are suicides that also go down as speed related, and suicides into trucks, will add to the statistics that "speed kills" so the normal a to b driver has to slow down further. Makes me mad. Deaths that have nothing to do with normal driving (ie out driving to Kill) should NOT be included with the road toll whatsoever. They are suicides and murders. |
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