Teh Cobra GT'z, I like!!!

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Originally Posted by WHYME

So yes I stand by what I said, the GTF is the better car and not just on paper, for 15k more then what you'd pay for a BF Cobra GT (two on carsales asking 70k) I know which one I'd pick, collector or not.

Then obviously you are not chasing to buy a Cobra what would be the point of buying a GTF if you want to add a Cobra to your collection? It appears you are looking for the better car (in your opinion), so post a photo of the GTF you bought. My guess is you are just a dreamer, like the many others who come up with justifications not to buy one. I am living my dream, while you dream yours

Originally Posted by WHYME

The GT 40th is just a sticker pack whether anyone likes to admit it or not

I guess you know very little to nothing about the GT40th then

[Dash_XR]

FG R-Spec is roughly same price and better in every conceivable way isn't it? Only a tune away from being a GTF too. Good value.

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Originally Posted by bangm001

Also, I havnt seen any GT "Blacks" in ages,... They would be my Fav!

Yeah, not sure what happened to them, there don't seem to be any around, then there is the F6 R spec as well, very limited numbers build from memory, all depends what car YOU want, Force 6 and Force 8 seem to be hard to find as well, all great cars.

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by WHYME

Has anyone sold a mint low K one for 70k in recent times?

Probablty not, hence why my "fair" price was $50K.

Since these things don't seem to sell regularly the value ends up being what ever a particular buyer and seller can come to agreement to. I highly doubt you can talk a someone into selling a low km car for $40K.

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Probablty not, hence why my "fair" price was $50K.

Since these things don't seem to sell regularly the value ends up being what ever a particular buyer and seller can come to agreement to. I highly doubt you can talk a someone into selling a low km car for $40K.

Personally I would not be selling a low km Cobra for 40K if I had one, may be 50-55K if I wanted to sell it, but I am willing to bet if you sold it even at that price you will regret it in the future, just like people who sold XB GT's for $5000 and XC Cobras for $10000 are regretting it today.

But if you MUST sell for what ever reason, it is a negotiation between seller and buyer, the market is ever changing and is about to change again.

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by WHYME

Sure the Cobra had the 302 engine but so did every late BF GT built in 07/08 after that.

That is true but collectible cars are a strange things, an XC Cobra, is worth 2 or 3 time more than 351 XC coupe (same car), its also worth 3 time more than XE ESP (which was a much better car, and the last of the big banger V8s)

[FPV+fteT3]

Originally Posted by Stefan

That is true but collectible cars are a strange things, an XC Cobra, is worth 2 or 3 time more than 351 XC coupe (same car), its also worth 3 time more than XE ESP (which was a much better car, and the last of the big banger V8s)

Exactly and the price is not driven by logic its driven by passion, availability and the number of folk who desire to own one.

[bangm001]

Problem is I want ALL of them!!! ;-)

[WHYME]

Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

Then obviously you are not chasing to buy a Cobra what would be the point of buying a GTF if you want to add a Cobra to your collection? It appears you are looking for the better car (in your opinion), so post a photo of the GTF you bought. My guess is you are just a dreamer, like the many others who come up with justifications not to buy one. I am living my dream, while you dream yours

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I guess you know very little to nothing about the GT40th then

Not sure what gives you the right to call me a dreamer, or put me on the spot like that when you don't even know me as a person or know my name. I understand people who want a Cobra don't care about the GTF and vice versa. Your GT 40th is a beautiful example of an FPV and yes I do apologise for missing some facts.

The BF GT40th was the first FPV vehicle fitted with the race tuned R spec suspension, only 200 were built, each came with floor mats with anniversary logo and integrated iPod/MP3 player input, it came with the option of 6-speed manual or 6-speed auto and optional Brembo brake upgrade that cost an additional 7k.

I hope you're enjoying your dream mate, because my dream is a paid off big two story house in a nice area and 3 cars that are not on loan - sure not any of them are a Cobra or 40th. But I do bet you still live in rent with that lovely GT40th hey

[GT0132]

From where I sit I don't see any additional appeal in anniversary, or special edition models. Some do and that's great for the owners of those ltd edition models who one day may want to offload them.

Without any disrespect to the owner of the GT40th posted above , when I see a GT40th to me its a just black BF GT with gold stripes that happen to be missing from the front and rear bars . The gold striping on the boot and bonnet to me look a bit odd.

The aesthetics of the Cobra are virtually identical except we're talking blue on white instead of gold on black. However, to me, the history of the Cobras makes that a more desirable car in my opinion from purely a looks perspective.

It would have been nice if Ford could have brought forward the introduction of the Miami engine for these limited models (or some other powerplant enhancements - not just the 302 5.4 engine in the Cob ) because if you overlook the R spec suspension , mats, Ipod, compendiums, yadda yadda , unfortunately all you're left with is a badge and sticker pack.

[WHYME]

Originally Posted by GT0132

From where I sit I don't see any additional appeal in anniversary, or special edition models. Some do and that's great for the owners of those ltd edition models who one day may want to offload them.

Without any disrespect to the owner of the GT40th posted above , when I see a GT40th to me its a just black BF GT with gold stripes that happen to be missing from the front and rear bars . The gold striping on the boot and bonnet to me look a bit odd.

The aesthetics of the Cobra are virtually identical except we're talking blue on white instead of gold on black. However, to me, the history of the Cobras makes that a more desirable car in my opinion from purely a looks perspective.

It would have been nice if Ford could have brought forward the introduction of the Miami engine for these limited models (or some other powerplant enhancements - not just the 302 5.4 engine in the Cob ) because if you overlook the R spec suspension , mats, Ipod, compendiums, yadda yadda , unfortunately all you're left with is a badge and sticker pack.

That's exactly what I was trying to say, thank you. I never meant any disrespect by calling these limited edition FPV's sticker packages but when you look at them from a third person perspective (of course owners won't say bad about their cars) it's just a sticker package in reality with fancy stripes and badging. I should know because I owned a 2007 RSPEC Typhoon in Bionic Blue lol.

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by GT0132

It would have been nice if Ford could have brought forward the introduction of the Miami engine for these limited models (or some other powerplant enhancements - not just the 302 5.4 engine in the Cob ) because if you overlook the R spec suspension , mats, Ipod, compendiums, yadda yadda , unfortunately all you're left with is a badge and sticker pack.

You make valid point but while a 302 ain't much it is the "best of breed" for a model which to some, like me means alot. Especially when my favorite late model is the BF.

What's an RPO 83 XA GT? Just a Holley and extractors, no big deal right. Double the price of a same specced GT. Didn't even get a sticker.

[Whitey-AMG]

Originally Posted by Stefan

You make valid point but while a 302 ain't much it is the "best of breed" for a model which to some, like me means alot. Especially when my favorite late model is the BF.

What's an RPO 83 XA GT? Just a Holley and extractors, no big deal right. Double the price of a same specced GT. Didn't even get a sticker.

Interesting point about best of breed.
I wonder in years to come if a GTP with all the factory options will be considered best of breed instead. After all , you get the big brakes , the big seats , all the electronics and some were optioned with factory sunroof. None of these were standard or even available as options on the cobra. Food for thought.

[Mont5.0]

Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

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that looks HOT!!!

[nt0351]

Originally Posted by Bluey-GT

Interesting point about best of breed.
I wonder in years to come if a GTP with all the factory options will be considered best of breed instead. After all , you get the big brakes , the big seats , all the electronics and some were optioned with factory sunroof. None of these were standard or even available as options on the cobra. Food for thought.

nope the best of the BA-BF breed to drive ,own & for retained value will always be the GT Cobra,...I remember them selling out within 2 days of the 2007 Bathurst 1-2 finish,never before in Ford Australia's history has a limited edition sold out in that timeframe,.. some hit $100k plus as dealers got very greedy....and I can assure you none were discounted.

[Whitey-AMG]

Originally Posted by nt0351

nope the best of the BA-BF breed to drive ,own & for retained value will always be the GT Cobra,...I remember them selling out within 2 days of the 2007 Bathurst 1-2 finish,never before in Ford Australia's history has a limited edition sold out in that timeframe,.. some hit $100k plus as dealers got very greedy....and I can assure you none were discounted.

Fair enough , understand what you're saying.
To me though , best of breed meant the best performer and best options. So the GTP with the bigger seats , the 6/4 Brembos and all the electrical fruit + the external details like polished front and rear grille , highlighted driving light surrounds , auto dip wing mirror etc. etc. makes it the pinnacle of the B series and best of breed. GT40th and Cobra may be more collectible , but I wouldn't go past a mint GTP either....

[Crazy Dazz]

I owned a Cobra because I got a good deal on it. The Dealer I went through wasn't a greedy sob. Their cars came fully optioned with the Brembos, and were not much more than a regular GT. I certainly wouldn't have paid some of the ridiculous prices being asked.

They will always be the "pick" of the B Series GT's. And yes, they will retain some premium.
At the end of the day, if you feel your car is worth say $50k, and you put it on carsales for a year @ $75k, and eventually somebody buys it, then that's a win.

On the over hand if you think it's worth $70k, and you desperately need the money, then you're in for a world of hurt.

[nt0351]

to answer the op's question.
current prices
a slightly rough daily driver with relevant klms ie : 100k plus are going for $33-35k .
a better example with say half those klms $42-45k
very low mileage immac example $47-50k
as new below 10k klms $55k
in new condition with plastic intact below 1000klms $60-$65k

if you compare the above with what a BF II GT or GT-P are fetching I think you would agree they attracting a nice premium even for a roughy.

[Batmobile]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Maybe...but if you can't find one for that price you simply don't get one.

Has anyone sold a low k one for anywhere near 40? Doubt it.

Around 2010-2012 , I was keen to get a low k BF Cobra for mid to high $40's ..Sellers weren't interested .. The sellers of XC Cobra's , wouldnt allow you to finish the sentence / offer , at least the BF sellers listened - yet still hen't sold.Although I wanted one, I thought , like most, if I paid the asking price, would I prefer the BF or FG .. I decided on the FG
Still have a soft spot for a BF , and as pointed out in the earlier thread , a 2007 BF GT at mid $20's - mid $30's , would n't disappoint , nor for that matter would a BF RSpec F6.

[Batmobile]

Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

Then obviously you are not chasing to buy a Cobra what would be the point of buying a GTF if you want to add a Cobra to your collection? It appears you are looking for the better car (in your opinion), so post a photo of the GTF you bought. My guess is you are just a dreamer, like the many others who come up with justifications not to buy one. I am living my dream, while you dream yours

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I guess you know very little to nothing about the GT40th then

Very , very nice, no matter what you want to call it or label it ..I don't know why it is , but why is it that i always gravitate towards the nice things , the things always that always cost the most .?
Someone , in another thread , said , you should buy the thing that rocks your world , that allows you to be comfortable , proud , in what you have, and allows you to search no more.. Agreed, and that is how I have make my decision , and not because ,it is labelled or marked a certain way .

[fpv 175 r spec]

If whyme is saying for 15k more he would get a gtf then he is crazy not too aye, 70k for a top dollar cobra or 15k on that , 70 + 15= 85k havent seen a gtf for that price yet, they went for that more new

[WHYME]

Originally Posted by fpv 175 r spec

If whyme is saying for 15k more he would get a gtf then he is crazy not too aye, 70k for a top dollar cobra or 15k on that , 70 + 15= 85k havent seen a gtf for that price yet, they went for that more new

At the time of writing that post, there was one on carsales going for that amount. Not sure why you decided to dig out an old thread though?

[fpv 175 r spec]

Originally Posted by WHYME

At the time of writing that post, there was one on carsales going for that amount. Not sure why you decided to dig out an old thread though?

Old thread??? Last post was a month ago

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Originally Posted by WHYME

Not sure what gives you the right to call me a dreamer, or put me on the spot like that when you don't even know me as a person or know my name. I understand people who want a Cobra don't care about the GTF and vice versa. Your GT 40th is a beautiful example of an FPV and yes I do apologise for missing some facts.

The BF GT40th was the first FPV vehicle fitted with the race tuned R spec suspension, only 200 were built, each came with floor mats with anniversary logo and integrated iPod/MP3 player input, it came with the option of 6-speed manual or 6-speed auto and optional Brembo brake upgrade that cost an additional 7k.

I hope you're enjoying your dream mate, because my dream is a paid off big two story house in a nice area and 3 cars that are not on loan - sure not any of them are a Cobra or 40th. But I do bet you still live in rent with that lovely GT40th hey

Hate to disappoint you but I have a 3 acre property 20 minutes from Port Macquarie 15 minutes from the beach with a 50 square home in the build, three car garage and a 8 car shed, and I am debt free, and payed cash for all my cars, not really interested in being in the mortgage world, got rid of the two story home in suburbia years ago, payed my double story home in Sydney off 13 years ago.

[GasoLane]

This thread is supposed to be about Cobra GT's, not who has got/ had the biggest house.

Please stay on topic.

[Grom13]

Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

Hate to disappoint you but I have a 3 acre property 20 minutes from Port Macquarie 15 minutes from the beach with a 50 square home in the build, three car garage and a 8 car shed, and I am debt free, and payed cash for all my cars, not really interested in being in the mortgage world, got rid of the two story home in suburbia years ago, payed my double story home in Sydney off 13 years ago.

This had turned into a ****ing contest, what a joke!!

[WHYME]

Originally Posted by GasOLane

This thread is supposed to be about Cobra GT's, not who has got/ had the biggest house.

Please stay on topic.

Could you please go ahead and lock this topic mate, funny how some peoples ego get the better of them. This all started because someone who doesn't know me called me a dreamer because I said I'd go for a GTF over a Cobra GT.