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23-07-2008, 08:09 PM | #31 | ||
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yeah it wouldnt be a V8..... stop thinking its the 70's
anything is possible, just a question of dollars.. Being the Ford fans we are, who would laugh at a 6 wipeing the floor of a Holden V8????
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23-07-2008, 08:11 PM | #32 | |||
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23-07-2008, 08:11 PM | #33 | ||
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About the only thing I dont like about this car are the wheels. HSV have done a brilliant job making it a reality.
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23-07-2008, 08:24 PM | #34 | |||
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by announcing how FPV's "halo" car wouldn't sell for anything near that. He's working off a budget, limiting this "HO's" engineering content, and not showing any faith in FG's superiority to VE. In other words he is saying a VE can be worth 155 but not an FG. He's silly as this W has just proven it can sell for what he thinks is too much to pay, thus putting himself in a corner. Guys, regardless of what you think about it's "over-the-top" pricing, HSV have proven (so far) to have made the correct move. It is selling. End of story. As CSV_LS1 has stated, it's also paved the way for FPV to deliver the same... to a degree.
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23-07-2008, 08:26 PM | #36 | |||
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23-07-2008, 08:26 PM | #37 | ||
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No surprise to see a bunch of people say 'why would you drop $155k on a Commodore' yet if FPV/Ford released something similar they'd be drooling all over it like their first Playboy.
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23-07-2008, 08:34 PM | #39 | ||
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The bias shines through. It's a Holden, only a cashed up bogan would buy one. Had it been a Ford...
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23-07-2008, 08:37 PM | #40 | |||
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IMO there isnt anywhere near the amount of buyers with 155K to spend on a special T6 as there is on a N/A hot V8.... Its already well proven with FPV sales going 2:1 V8 to I6T...
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23-07-2008, 08:38 PM | #41 | ||
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In these days of automotive washing machines, it's good to see an Australian version of something special.
Granted the styling is a bit out there for me, but the figures speak for themselves... Will we see a Ford equivalent or better? Maybe from overseas, but I doubt Ford Aus will. I am happy to be proven wrong though! Ed |
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23-07-2008, 08:39 PM | #42 | |||
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23-07-2008, 08:49 PM | #43 | |||
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Not a risk I'd be willing to take. Is it just me or do people on this forum hate Holdens just for being Holdens. Fair enough if you have good reasons, but coming up with reasons just because it's a Holden is pathetic. Give credit where it's due. It's an awesome car, that people are more than willing to pay $155k for. Isn't that what determines the price of a car? I couldn't sell my stockish XR8 for $100k, because people aren't willing to pay it. The amount of cash someone is willing to fork over, determines the value of the car or the value of the USD for that matter. For all the people going on about the stupid price, I personally find the GTHO price much more ridiculous. But fair enough if people are willing to pay it, that's what it must be valued at. Nice job by Holden. It would be great if Ford had a rhetort to it. It would be in this true competitive spirit that the quality of automobiles in this country are improved. OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE |
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23-07-2008, 08:51 PM | #44 | ||
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ANYONE who buys a car like this just to store away on the off chance it will appreciate in value has rocks in their heads and a fool as a financial advisor.. these cars scream drive me.. They're built to drive and enjoy now.
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23-07-2008, 08:53 PM | #45 | |||
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23-07-2008, 08:57 PM | #46 | ||
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In these days of the news covering the combination of global warming and rising petrol prices, the Holden PR team have done a great job to get a minute or two on the 6:00 news. Even if Ford did put together a "special" such as a GTHO, I'm sure Ford PR / marketing would screw it up :(.
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23-07-2008, 08:57 PM | #47 | |||
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23-07-2008, 08:59 PM | #48 | |||
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good on em sorta wish we had our own version but :
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23-07-2008, 09:00 PM | #49 | ||
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Awesome piece of gear, good onya HSV, but keep it as a 1 off special and dont do what you did to the people that paid $90k for the priveledge of having a limited edition 300 kw GTS, and then offer the motor in every other model forcing their so called exclusiveness out the window
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23-07-2008, 09:09 PM | #50 | ||
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hmmm 7litre commodore or 4 door m3 or c63 amg for 15k cheaper.........hard choice cough cough
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23-07-2008, 09:18 PM | #51 | ||
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It will be interesting to see what performance the media get out of these. The problem is if they are only a bit quicker than the other HSVs in the range then what happens when the time comes to upgrade the R8/GTS? Performance will be almost lineball but with a $70k price gap. It might stop HSV from being able to upgrade the other models.
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23-07-2008, 09:22 PM | #52 | |||
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The media have already got hold of one, does not give the source but.
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23-07-2008, 09:28 PM | #53 | ||
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4.7 seconds which is atleast 0.75 seconds quicker than the R8? Ummm thats wrong. 4.9 is there official claim for the R8.
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23-07-2008, 09:31 PM | #54 | ||||
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I have to commend them on a job well done, but was it really necessary to use a 7L V8 engine? What about a TT configuration or something on a smaller engine?
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23-07-2008, 09:45 PM | #55 | ||
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It also paves the way for something even wilder (I recall reading)... like a 6.2L S/C (LSA or LS9) engine that is available to HSV. The W427's dry-sumping would allow a straight forward install of the LS9 if HSV so choose to head that way.
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23-07-2008, 09:59 PM | #56 | ||
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Well done hsv,for having the balls to go where no ford australia car would dare to go,while it may not be a looker(in my opinion),this thing would put a rocket up any euro sedan they have to offer and judging by demand,it will sell heaps.
lift your game ford oz,your respectable image is crap...just have a look at the ads :togo: |
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23-07-2008, 10:07 PM | #57 | ||
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Didn't Barret say he wants a GTHO? Well now's the perfect chance... once the new Hurricane/Boss V8 arrives... or even build a wild 'F6R'?
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23-07-2008, 10:19 PM | #59 | ||
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i want one :(
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23-07-2008, 10:36 PM | #60 | |||
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Good on Holden to have the balls to do it .... very risky and looks like they will pull it off. Best thing to come out of this will be FORDS counterpunch (PLEASE Ford ) Here hoping!
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Yep, dont like it because of what it is, not caring how great it may be. Would love to drive one but never would I own one. Its a Holden! Because of that fact, I will not be told to like it because I should? I will only respect what they have had the guts to do and force the oppostion to get off there bum! Cant wait to see the first VT with a W427 plastic bits applied with cable ties. | [/url] |
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