Anyone Bought a ISUZU ute - Page 2

sprintman1 · 23-12-2015, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

Cool story...

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Colorado 7 in blue. MUX in red.

Oh dear

naddis01 · 23-12-2015, 01:09 PM

Oh dear indeed for the Isuzu.

sprintman1 · 23-12-2015, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

Oh dear indeed for the Isuzu.

Another taken in by peak torque. Have a think how easy it is for the 4JJ1-TC engine that does stirling duty in a 5 tonne truck then only has to pull a 2 tonne D-MAX? Exactly why nearly every horse float here uses a Max for towing!

naddis01 · 23-12-2015, 02:48 PM

You said to get our heads around area under the curve. Can you tell me which has more area under the curve, Dmax/MUX or Colorado/7?

The line about truck engine doing it easy in a Dmax sounds like something straight out of a Dmax brochure. Could someone else have been sucked in by marketing?

sprintman1 · 23-12-2015, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

You said to get our heads around area under the curve. Can you tell me which has more area under the curve, Dmax/MUX or Colorado/7?

The line about truck engine doing it easy in a Dmax sounds like something straight out of a Dmax brochure. Could someone else have been sucked in by marketing?

The 4JJ1-TC engine is straight out of Isuzus 5 ton truck.

naddis01 · 23-12-2015, 03:01 PM

I will go check that out while you tell me which has more area under the curve.

By the way I know the Dmax has a truck engine. That wasn't my point.

Itsme · 23-12-2015, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tempted

Have you ever driven one of those 5 tonne trucks when fully loaded? They struggle to maintain 80km/h on a flat road.

I think you will find the gearing is different for good reason.

sprintman1 · 23-12-2015, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tempted

Have you ever driven one of those 5 tonne trucks when fully loaded? They struggle to maintain 80km/h on a flat road.

If you can't work out the difference between the same engine in a 5 ton vehicle or a 2 ton vehicle you have a big problem

sprintman1 · 23-12-2015, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

I will go check that out while you tell me which has more area under the curve.

By the way I know the Dmax has a truck engine. That wasn't my point.

Dodgy figures vs reality? Put one on a 2000kg float and see what happens. Oh and easily retuned too

naddis01 · 23-12-2015, 06:49 PM

Explain how they are dodgy figures?

sprintman1 · 23-12-2015, 08:32 PM

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Explain how they are dodgy figures?

Wanna buy a bridge?

**GasoLane** · 23-12-2015, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sprintman1

Wanna buy a bridge?

If you stop being so patronising you'll probably get on a lot better around here.

Big_Daz · 23-12-2015, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcon SXR8

The funny thing is I know 2 people who drove the dmax and Colorado back to back on the same day and they wonder were the Colorado gets its figures from, both went the dmax. Wouldn't be the first time Holden's figures are a bit optimistic.

I wouldn't go on anything old john codogan "motor expert" says or "dyno sheets" he draws up, as that bloke doesn't even seem to drive the vehicles he talks about.

I found the same thing... Whilst not on the same day I drove my Brothers 2014 Colorado 4x4 Manual and My mates 2015 Dmax 4x4 Auto and the dmax was a much better drive...

Neither of them held a candle to the new Ranger's though....

Not a fan of the Amarak either TBH.. Had a drive in a mates Comfortline 4x4 Dual cab and apart from the interior being nice with heaps of space I didn't think it went all that well....

One thing I will say though, a lot of my friends are jumping ship to dual cab 4wd's...lol

sprintman1 · 24-12-2015, 08:34 PM

Current Max is getting on. Twin turbo 2.5 shouldn't be far off

Davehoos · 24-12-2015, 08:48 PM

work ordered a new spec 4X2 auto in that was due in October, is it here yet....

sprintman1 · 24-12-2015, 09:43 PM

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work ordered a new spec 4X2 auto in that was due in October, is it here yet....

The 2.5 TT? Dunno but been available in Europe for a year or two

Franco Cozzo · 24-12-2015, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sprintman1

You need to get your head around the difference between peak torque and area under the curve. Another example of how marketing beats reality every time

Except I've driven both multiple times and the Colorado 2.8L engine is better.

sprintman1 · 24-12-2015, 09:55 PM

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Except I've driven both multiple times and the Colorado 2.8L engine is better.

For stoplight racing almost certainly

Feathers · 24-12-2015, 10:02 PM

My uncle has had two, and has been very happy with both of them. He's done the Kidney Kar Rally in his a couple of times, and it's never missed a beat. He recently saw his first one around on the road (as he fitted a non standard bullbar and lights), and the new owner is very happy with it as well.

**Giant Cranium** · 25-12-2015, 11:32 AM

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Except I've driven both multiple times and the Colorado 2.8L engine is better.

are you are having a laugh mate? that motor sucks and id rather have a isuzu truck motor any day. the 2.8 is fast but its rough and noisy and quite an unreliable motor. also its very thirsty, my b-i-L gets about 15lph and his ute carry only about 200kg a day

Franco Cozzo · 25-12-2015, 11:42 AM

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are you are having a laugh mate? that motor sucks and id rather have a isuzu truck motor any day. the 2.8 is fast but its rough and noisy and quite an unreliable motor. also its very thirsty, my b-i-L gets about 15lph and his ute carry only about 200kg a day

Nope I've had both in my workshop for accessory fitment and electric brake setups and I reckon the Colorado is nicer to drive.

**Giant Cranium** · 25-12-2015, 12:03 PM

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Nope I've had both in my workshop for accessory fitment and electric brake setups and I reckon the Colorado is nicer to drive.

may be nicer to drive but id use your money to own one

Franco Cozzo · 25-12-2015, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Giant Cranium

may be nicer to drive but id use your money to own one

I wouldn't use my money to own any Thailand special dual cab Ute

sprintman1 · 25-12-2015, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Damo

Nope I've had both in my workshop for accessory fitment and electric brake setups and I reckon the Colorado is nicer to drive.

Again for the slow we're talking about a tow vehicle, not 'niceness to drive'. Some people.........

**GasoLane** · 25-12-2015, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sprintman1

Again for the slow we're talking about a tow vehicle, not 'niceness to drive'. Some people.........

See post 44.

Franco Cozzo · 25-12-2015, 04:51 PM

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Again for the slow we're talking about a tow vehicle, not 'niceness to drive'. Some people.........

500NM VS 380NM.

2005 is calling me, they want their diesel engine back bro.

smoo · 25-12-2015, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

By the way I know the Dmax has a truck engine. That wasn't my point.

It's no truck engine. A light duty ute engine they've dropped into their small truck with six speed gearbox and gearing good for about 130kmh. With a following of floggers justifying their overpriced purchase by claiming its from a truck maker.
Put any engine infront of that gearing and it will pull 5 tonne.
When I worked at an Isuzu dealer this engine was breaking rocker arms in the NNR trucks. Don't know if they are still doing it but they might need to be under a bit more load than doing the shopping run in urban areas like most of these Utes are used for.

sprintman1 · 25-12-2015, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by smoo

It's no truck engine. A light duty ute engine they've dropped into their small truck with six speed gearbox and gearing good for about 130kmh. With a following of floggers justifying their overpriced purchase by claiming its from a truck maker.
Put any engine infront of that gearing and it will pull 5 tonne.
When I worked at an Isuzu dealer this engine was breaking rocker arms in the NNR trucks. Don't know if they are still doing it but they might need to be under a bit more load than doing the shopping run in urban areas like most of these Utes are used for.

Claiming it's from a truck maker?? Isuzu is the market leader in Oz in small, medium and now the large truck segments. Easy enough to verify

Franco Cozzo · 25-12-2015, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sprintman1

Claiming it's from a truck maker?? Isuzu is the market leader in Oz in small, medium and now the large truck segments. Easy enough to verify

So is Holden but it doesn't mean their product is any good (3.6L boat anchor).

smoo · 25-12-2015, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sprintman1

Claiming it's from a truck maker?? Isuzu is the market leader in Oz in small, medium and now the large truck segments. Easy enough to verify

Market leader in sales... Extensive nationwide dealer back up, decades old tech and cheap retail price is a recipe for good sales. McDonalds of the commercial vehicle sector pretty much sums it up.