Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > Non Ford Related Community Forums > The Bar

The Bar For non Automotive Related Chat

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 29-06-2007, 05:00 PM   #1
DOC
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
DOC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 4,409
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nate07
Prove that there is no god.
It's the other way around, but then again we don't speak religion here, i am sure there are 100's of sites that deal with with this arguement.

However it were permitted to discuss this as adults here i would be more than happy to place up some questions / answers but in reality id think it would last 5 minutes
DOC is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2007, 05:05 PM   #2
robbo_yobbo
Kick out tha Jams
 
robbo_yobbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: SA
Posts: 443
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nate07
Prove that there is no god.
Now thats a question potentialy opening yourself up to insult..... I dont think you'll apreciate what I have to say if I expanded on this matter so Ill just leave it at the following...

with an argument/debate on any other subject, you normaly need to proove that something IS THERE, not the otherway around. and other than old wives tales and mythology, there is no proof supporting your case.

Otherwise we might aswell all say "proove that there is no Easter Bunny".
Now from your stance here, we have speculation and mythology to support that ester bunny exists, Does that mean the Easter Bunny lives?? ofcourse not!
__________________
$416.80.......All that cash came from a new (used) car. Check your back seats!
robbo_yobbo is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2007, 05:29 PM   #3
Nate07
Regular Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 33
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by robbo_yobbo
Now thats a question potentialy opening yourself up to insult..... I dont think you'll apreciate what I have to say if I expanded on this matter so Ill just leave it at the following...

with an argument/debate on any other subject, you normaly need to proove that something IS THERE, not the otherway around. and other than old wives tales and mythology, there is no proof supporting your case.

Otherwise we might aswell all say "proove that there is no Easter Bunny".
Now from your stance here, we have speculation and mythology to support that ester bunny exists, Does that mean the Easter Bunny lives?? ofcourse not!
There are archaeological artifacts to prove that the bible is true...
Nate07 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2007, 05:35 PM   #4
gtfpv
GT
 
gtfpv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SYDNEY
Posts: 9,205
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nate07
There are archaeological artifacts to prove that the bible is true...
i dont think this thread is about debating the bible mate . each to their own in what they believe . how come millions of people can witness ufos flying over thier city, and get clear footage of it , and yet , no one even hear of such an event, or it be laughed off as a hoax . can we not believe , anything anymore , which now seems to be the way it is . quite close to illusiveness .
gtfpv is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2007, 05:43 PM   #5
Falcon Coupe
Clevo Mafia Inc.
 
Falcon Coupe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 10,496
Chairman's Award: Chairman's Award - Issue reason: The exceptional contribution made to AFF over an extended period of time. Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: Your tireless efforts behind the scenes in keeping AFF the place it is. 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nate07
There are archaeological artifacts to prove that the bible is true...
True or not it doesn't matter.
Ford Forums is full of different people from different backgrounds who worship many idol's from God to the Cookie monster.

They will never all agree whom is right/wrong so best to just leave it out of threads so as not to get them locked.
Falcon Coupe is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2007, 05:44 PM   #6
BA_Turbs
Allan Smithee
 
BA_Turbs's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: SE Melbourne
Posts: 458
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nate07
There are archaeological artifacts to prove that the bible is true...
Push your barrow elsewhere. Three attempts now to de-rail the thread. Maybe www.godisgreat.com has a forum where you can discuss this?
__________________
1974 XB Falcon 500 Station Wagon - 250, 3 speed auto and running like a 2015 model
1999 AU Wagon Petrol/LPG - Cheap run around, but still a great car!
2014 PX XLT Ranger 4x4 Auto getting set up as an off road touring rig
BA_Turbs is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 30-06-2007, 09:14 PM   #7
robbo_yobbo
Kick out tha Jams
 
robbo_yobbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: SA
Posts: 443
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nate07
There are archaeological artifacts to prove that the bible is true...
Like what!! there may be archialogical artifacts to suggest that your good book is based on, or distantly related to real life events, but that in no way prooves truth at all!!

How many movies have we all seen (about Aliens even!) that have been based on the true real life events that distort the story and show the playwrites perspective.

IE: a man sees a tin can fly through the sky, thats all he sees, and he thinks to himself "that could be an alien" and he tells his friend the movie maker.
-The movie maker makes his movie about green men from planet oberwong on the adelisent galaxy of youranus.
-a million years later, people dig up and find this blokes movie which was "based on a real life event experienced by joe bloggs". next to the buried movie was a toombstone reading, RIP, here lies joe bloggs (who just so happens to be star of the alien movie).
Thats archialogical evidience alright, but it doesnt mean the contents of the film are the truth. On the other foot it doesnt mean that the contents of the film are not possible, but it just doesnt proove a thing!
__________________
$416.80.......All that cash came from a new (used) car. Check your back seats!
robbo_yobbo is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2007, 01:30 PM   #8
BA_Turbs
Allan Smithee
 
BA_Turbs's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: SE Melbourne
Posts: 458
Default

The original post sounds like scientology.

I am a born cynic, and therefore, by default a sceptic as well.
__________________
1974 XB Falcon 500 Station Wagon - 250, 3 speed auto and running like a 2015 model
1999 AU Wagon Petrol/LPG - Cheap run around, but still a great car!
2014 PX XLT Ranger 4x4 Auto getting set up as an off road touring rig
BA_Turbs is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2007, 02:10 PM   #9
gozza
......
 
gozza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Northside Brisbane
Posts: 2,494
Default

This is interesting too

http://wanderling.tripod.com/la_ufo.html
gozza is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2007, 02:14 PM   #10
kyro_02
V8 wannaabeee
 
kyro_02's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Southbank, melb
Posts: 2,575
Default

well if you believe we're the only ones in the whole universe... You probably should stop taking those drugs :P
kyro_02 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2007, 03:00 PM   #11
XW 393
"WHEEZER" POWERED
 
XW 393's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Western Suburbs, Victoria
Posts: 1,385
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kyro_02
well if you believe we're the only ones in the whole universe...
What he said, it is near on stupid if you believe we are the only intelligent life in the entire universe, we dont even know how big it is.
__________________
FG MK2 XR6 DAILY - BLOWN VE SSV Z SERIES TAILY
XW 393 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2007, 04:02 PM   #12
robbo_yobbo
Kick out tha Jams
 
robbo_yobbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: SA
Posts: 443
Default

Well it sounds like john lears is a nut, and crackpots like that should not be allowed to watch the conspiracy channel, ledalone star on it. having said that, the possibilities of Alien life existing, far outweighs the chance that we're all there is to the universe. Do I believe all these other nuts that think they visit the earth and abduct people? NO!

Fact: People are real (most of them)

Highley Likeley: Aliens are real

Fact: Ghosts are not real

Unlikeley: Aliens visit earth, and UFO's are actualy alien spacecraft

Fact: Angels, Deamons, Supreme beings, Gods, and santa clause are not real (but st nick and jesus were - they just dont have superman powers).

Likeley: There are many different Alien lifeforms some of which are far less inteligent or capable than us, and some of which are far more intelligent and capable than us.

Fact: Man visited the moon, we do not have alien technology!

Likeley: The government(s) of the world probably have top secret offence/defence technology that people have spotted in testing thinking it is Alien UFO's

Fact: The tooth fairy is real, shes your mum, and I visited the tooth fairy last night. Say hi to her for me!
__________________
$416.80.......All that cash came from a new (used) car. Check your back seats!
robbo_yobbo is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2007, 05:08 PM   #13
get_an_ea_today
Festoon This!!!
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 410
Default

I would like to believe the whole venus thing cause that would be cool but without any proof, its just to hard to believe.

Matt
get_an_ea_today is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2007, 05:11 PM   #14
robbo_yobbo
Kick out tha Jams
 
robbo_yobbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: SA
Posts: 443
Default

I cant believe how quickly the flared responses came to that!!! haha
__________________
$416.80.......All that cash came from a new (used) car. Check your back seats!
robbo_yobbo is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2007, 05:16 PM   #15
gtfpv
GT
 
gtfpv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SYDNEY
Posts: 9,205
Default

it gets more interesting by the minute .
the funny thing though , is this guy JOHN LEAR , is a renound citizin that has a very high profile, and has had jobs that only the elite , highly inteligent people would aspire too . i guess him stateing things like this , would be more credibal than your wifes aunties 1/2 sisters gay lover .
wouldnt people agree.
gtfpv is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2007, 05:18 PM   #16
DOC
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
DOC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 4,409
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gtfpv
is this guy JOHN LEAR , is a renound citizin that has a very high profile, and has had jobs that only the elite , highly inteligent people would aspire too . i guess him stateing things like this , would be more credibal than your wifes aunties 1/2 sisters gay lover .
wouldnt people agree.
unless your wifes aunties 1/2 sisters gay lover was JOHN LEAR
DOC is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2007, 05:23 PM   #17
gtfpv
GT
 
gtfpv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SYDNEY
Posts: 9,205
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DOC
unless your wifes aunties 1/2 sisters gay lover was JOHN LEAR
believe me , i've seen worse, unless he has smoked a cochroach through a cone . now back on topic
gtfpv is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2007, 05:21 PM   #18
sexr6tasy
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 389
Default

If ya cant trust the president of America to tell you the truth about aliens and flying saucers who can ya trust aye ;) oh wait :(
sexr6tasy is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2007, 05:21 PM   #19
XWGT
Powered by Marshall
 
XWGT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,138
Default

Well all I can say is the first alien abduction was much less painful than the second..........seems the super intelligent master race that runs the universe in the back ground has run out of vital lubricating material.........and venus no longer supplies as it finds our existance an affront to their god..........Darth Helmut
__________________
Powered by Marshall
XWGT is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2007, 05:23 PM   #20
sexr6tasy
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 389
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by XWGT
Well all I can say is the first alien abduction was much less painful than the second..........seems the super intelligent master race that runs the universe in the back ground has run out of vital lubricating material.........and venus no longer supplies as it finds our existance an affront to their god..........Darth Helmut

Perhaps the venus people have been put on work choice agreements and can no longer afford to send any lube?
sexr6tasy is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2007, 05:28 PM   #21
gtfpv
GT
 
gtfpv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SYDNEY
Posts: 9,205
Default

so i guy with one of the best jobs in the world, in aero technology, is being called a nut. by us , what does that say foir us, unless it is not him , but someone claiming to be him . anyhow i guess the world must be full of weirdoes ubfortunately they seem to do a lot better than you and i. as in run the world .
gtfpv is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2007, 05:37 PM   #22
flappist
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 12,077
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gtfpv
so i guy with one of the best jobs in the world, in aero technology, is being called a nut. by us , what does that say foir us, unless it is not him , but someone claiming to be him . anyhow i guess the world must be full of weirdoes ubfortunately they seem to do a lot better than you and i. as in run the world .
I wonder if any of these super intelligent aliens have developed a system to correct grammar, spelling and vocabulary?
If so could they please implement it here.........
flappist is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2007, 05:42 PM   #23
gtfpv
GT
 
gtfpv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SYDNEY
Posts: 9,205
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by flappist
I wonder if any of these super intelligent aliens have developed a system to correct grammar, spelling and vocabulary?
If so could they please implement it here.........
It's more my typing than my spelling mate . I could proof read before i post,but then my posts' would take much longer than i'd like.
Is this correct spelling and grammer wise? Hence the time it took to reply.

Last edited by gtfpv; 29-06-2007 at 05:48 PM.
gtfpv is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2007, 05:44 PM   #24
flappist
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 12,077
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gtfpv
It's more my typing than my spelling mate . i could proof read before i post,but then my posts would take much longer than i'd like.
Is this correct spelling and grammer wise? Hence the time it took to reply.
No, but close enough. Much easier to read.
flappist is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2007, 05:29 PM   #25
XWGT
Powered by Marshall
 
XWGT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,138
Default

Or perhaps they have discovered FF and through this post, discovered that these super intelligent beings are manipulating them also, and therefore mounted an economic protest by denying them the one true substance everyone knows aliens need to conduct a successful abduction..........water based lube..........economic warfare galactic style........
__________________
Powered by Marshall
XWGT is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2007, 06:46 PM   #26
Van D
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Van D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Calgary, AB. Canada
Posts: 1,625
Default

Gets my head in sometimes. Of course there's gotta be something else out there.

And just thinking about how old the earth is, the cycles it's been through (and other planets such as mars) and how insignificant we are in the whole process boggles me. And the fact that we know so little about a planet so close (mars), you'd be crazy to rule out other live in whole other galaxies I think. We don't even know what the universe is really.. As in.. how can it just go on (that's the worst one!), or just stop?

Slight de-rail.. Has anyone seen pictures of other sun like stars dying? It's amazing to think that'll happen here one day, probably swallowing earth completely.
Van D is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2007, 07:01 PM   #27
sexr6tasy
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 389
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by popinfresh
Gets my head in sometimes. Of course there's gotta be something else out there.

And just thinking about how old the earth is, the cycles it's been through (and other planets such as mars) and how insignificant we are in the whole process boggles me. And the fact that we know so little about a planet so close (mars), you'd be crazy to rule out other live in whole other galaxies I think. We don't even know what the universe is really.. As in.. how can it just go on (that's the worst one!), or just stop?

Slight de-rail.. Has anyone seen pictures of other sun like stars dying? It's amazing to think that'll happen here one day, probably swallowing earth completely.
From what ive read and heard the sun will expand and swallow the earth before collapsing, dieing and becoming a red dwarf so the end will come eventually either way. Now for abit of my thoughts my belief is that the universe is constantly expanding and collapsing as other solar systems and galaxy's die new ones are born its a never ending process now as to whether theres an edge to the universe that **** is beyond my thinking the variables involved are staggering but i see the universe as a living thing in itself. Its possible there has been aliens but they've died when there suns or stars have also collapsed that is if they use light at all as has been suggested theres many diffrent forms of life not just carbon based and diffrent levels of consciousness. Is finding a few tiny living cells on another planet constitute life? what could another potential race of beings? Or do we need aliens that communicate and fly big space ships to prove they do? Do they have to fly space ships at all maybe they can travel in space as energy? theres just to much crap to think about and its mostly probably all crap and i give up at this point lol.
sexr6tasy is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2007, 07:56 PM   #28
uranium_death
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
uranium_death's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Gren A Waverrey
Posts: 2,356
Default

Ok.

There have been like 1000 people who have played AFL football...none have EVER gone missing suddenly to my knowledge. So that argument is immediately redundant.

Maybe Harold Holt was snatched from above.
uranium_death is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2007, 08:12 PM   #29
gtfpv
GT
 
gtfpv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SYDNEY
Posts: 9,205
Default

I'D REALLY LIKE people to listen to the sound clips in the 1st post, and then comment. also if you see interesting links, clips etc . post here . this will make it interesting . HAS ANYONE SEEN THE CLIP OF THE UFOS , coming out of the WORLD TRADE CENTRE TOWER WINDOWS AS THEY WERE FALLING . also the ufo that went right up to the WTC tower and peered in about 10 years ago . really clear footage .
i must learn how to post links and clips myself .
gtfpv is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-06-2007, 08:24 PM   #30
DOC
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
DOC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 4,409
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gtfpv
i must learn how to post links and clips myself .
Just copy the address in the address bar, paste it into the post, then at the front type

[ url=

then at the back type

]LINK[ /url]

with no spaces
DOC is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 03:09 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL