Carbon footprint and you!

[Auslandau]

I have six V8's so what you rekon!



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[XR8putts]

Originally Posted by auslandau

I have six V8's so what you rekon!

Dosn't matter if you have six or a hundred.
You can only drive one at a time.

Through lectures as part of my degree we've discussed the topic of carbon footprints and more importantly the ability (read NON-ability) to offset one's carbon footprint. What did a lecture theatre full of architectural students, proffesors and lecturers conclude? Biggest load of shyte ever.

[Josh_XC]

Originally Posted by puts99

Dosn't matter if you have six or a hundred.
You can only drive one at a time.

Through lectures as part of my degree we've discussed the topic of carbon footprints and more importantly the ability (read NON-ability) to offset one's carbon footprint. What did a lecture theatre full of architectural students, proffesors and lecturers conclude? Biggest load of shyte ever.

That would be interesting to be in I reckon hereing different opinions from different professions. Although i think global warming and "carbon footprint" is somewhat of a myth I do like the debates this topic brings between people

[Auslandau]

Originally Posted by puts99

Dosn't matter if you have six or a hundred.
You can only drive one at a time.

Oh that is true ........ see I do really care as I DO only drive one at a time!

AND who ever was the last person to leave NZ left the bloody porch light on!!!!



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[Booka]

I acctuly plant trees at my farm, that is my bit for the environment

[Daymoe]

Originally Posted by Booka

I acctuly plant trees at my farm, that is my bit for the environment

My house is on 1546 square meters, and the way our garden is in about 100 years it will be the biggest forest out. Mum went nutzo with trees.

[Blue Oval Mopar Man]

I respect te environment every time I go bush riding my quad! If the mud is too much and I may get bogged , I will respect it and go another way ! Same with trees and stuff. If its too big I will respect it and not mow it down if its in my way ! :

[hypnodoc]

This, the C02 myth, is all a load of crap started by Al Gores 'An Inconveinient Untruth". In the UK now the courts have ruled that if a teacher wants to show the movie to school kids they must be given a sheet of paper citing citing that there is no scientific evidence anywhere throughout the whole film.
There is climate change going on but NO GLOBAL WARMING and climate change has always gone on. The IPCC has 19 scientists that decide what lies the UN publish about it. Check out the US EPA website most of what the media are saying is a 100% antithisis of whats really going on. The IPCC ensure that 20,000+ scientists trying to tell the truth about C02 can't get heard. This is all emotionally inspired drivel about money via carbon credits. I can understand fully why Howard and Bush wouldn't sign the Kyoto Protocol. Baldy has signed it and fitted us taxpeyers up to the tune of some 36 billion dollars a year. It would have cost the Yanks almost 400 billon and yet cow farts emit more C02 into the atmosphere every day than cars. Anybody who pays carbon tax is a damn fool IMHO

[XCSEDAN]

i dont mind planting trees gives me some shade when im doing some fencing, collecting firewood etc, but i dont beleive in this carbon footprint bullcrap.
besides with the global cooling thing going on, i dont think it will matter!

[chief]

Gasolane, so true. Very good indicator that photograph.

[FlipXW]

Thats a great pic. Geez look at Japan, USA, Eastern Europe, and i think India?. Crazy stuff.

[XCSEDAN]

OH MY GOD!!! CLEARLY AUSTRALIA IS THE CULPRIT FOR GLOBAL WARMING!!!! QUICK EVERYONE TURN OFF YOUR COMPUTERS AND STOP DRIVING TO SAVE THE EARTH!!!!!!

told you it was bullcrap....

[asusdragon]

i have seen that pic before pretty cool though do you know where all of the crap from Japan, USA, Eastern Europe, come right down to Australia therefore creating the hole rather crap dont you we do bugger all yet suffer the most

[|||]

i dont mow my grass as often as i used to and i am helping the planet live longer. i help the environment by not releasing exhaust from the mower and the extra leaves on my grass suck up more co2 and release delicious oxygen for me and my family to consume

its all about the little things and it makes me feel better than other people who drive thirsty cars

[XCSEDAN]

quick question, with the above pic, is there one that shows population vs emissions???
this showing how much of an effect each person has in each country in order from highest to lowest (make sense????)

[devilracer_01]

Geez Australia is nothing compared to other countries, I say dust off the 707s and 727s and put more smoke in the air :

[arby]

Originally Posted by XCSEDAN

quick question, with the above pic, is there one that shows population vs emissions???
this showing how much of an effect each person has in each country in order from highest to lowest (make sense????)

Tonnes of CO2 per capita per annum

[BeStRaFe]

Originally Posted by arby

Tonnes of CO2 per capita per annum

that map seems a little wrong, china should be glowing!

[arby]

Originally Posted by BeStRaFe

that map seems a little wrong, china should be glowing!

No, it showing the amount of CO2 per person not total emissions.
Australia is around no. 14 in the world per person in CO2 emission - mainly due to transport and power generation.

[Auslandau]

Originally Posted by arby

No, it showing the amount of CO2 per person not total emissions.
Australia is around no. 14 in the world per person in CO2 emission - mainly due to transport and power generation.

So Aust with population of 20 mill of course would be high. China with pop over 1 billion so per person would be lower but can still emit 15 times more than aust, or any other lightly populated country and still be lower per person. India and many other nations that dont appear 'red'. Figures can always be manipulated to any argument.



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[arby]

A few calculators on the Victorian EPA website.

Greenhouse Calculator

Ecological Footprint

Car Ecometer

[XAGSV8]

Australia only emit 1.5% of the world emissions so the above chart may be true per person but is very misleading as a country overall. China, India, USA need to clean their acts up more then most countries. In saying that while these countries pollute their environment I believe there is no such thing as global warming caused by humans.

There should have been an option "I care about the environment but am too lazy to do anything about it".

[Steffo]

Who really cares?

People actually believe in global lies... I mean global warming? Wow...

[adrianb]

I buy carbon credits to offset the exhaust emissions from my car and am on a green electricity plan. I use power-saving appliances too. I might not make a difference myself but I'm personally making less of a contribution to pollution than I used to.

I fail to believe that people don't think the human race causes pollution. Have you never left the city or perhaps never been to the city and seen/smelt the difference in the air quality between city and country? Have you ever been to a big city like London and seen the smog haze that surrounds it? Do you really think that pollution will have no long-term effect on our planet and we should just keep cranking it out as fast as possible and don't worry about it?

Sure we might not produce as much as india or china but we have a fraction of the people those countries have. Half their populations are living in small towns with very very basic amenities while most of our population is in our coastal cities with aircons/heaters, tv's and god knows what else cranked and driving back and forth to the shops in V8s. What would your response be if every indian and chinese person led the same lifestyle as you do and cranked out as much pollution (per capita) as every australian - would you be ok with that or would we use a different representation of the numbers to justify our lifestyle?

We should be thankful for our modern society and all the luxuries it brings but that doesn't mean we should be ignorant of the cost of those luxuries. Absolutely we should question the greenies and scientists and of course we're not all going to go live on an eco-friendly commune in mud huts but theres gotta be some compromise to make sure future generations enjoy the same quality of life we do.

[Geez Louise]

I was in an elevator the other day and there was a guy in there leaving his carbon foot print let me tell you. I had to get off two floors early so I could breathe!!!

[cob115]

Originally Posted by Geez Louise

I was in an elevator the other day and there was a guy in there leaving his carbon foot print let me tell you. I had to get off two floors early so I could breathe!!!

carbon foot print my ***!iv got a v8 for each day of the week,and i hammer it !a real lot of the panic has be caused buy Al fat guts Gore ,peter carrot opps garret greenies ,labour party etc ,i read earlyer in the thread that the sun causes a lot of it ,im not a boffin but i dought a lot of the peoples credability telling us the world will end

[XCSEDAN]

thanks for that map, we do emmit a bit per person, but meh, not that bad when you think about the average amount of travel we do per person compared to a lot of other countries.

adrianb: when you buy carbon credits, where does the money go to? also have you read the global cooling epidemic that's supposed to be coming?

[gozza]

Buy tofu - you will sleep at night peacefully

[Josh_XC]

Originally Posted by gozza

Buy tofu - you will sleep at night peacefully

hahahaha nice.. idiot lol

But yeh its interesting seeing ppl's reactions to this topic

[paul_r_d]

I hate how the governmant hangs it on general houses and asks "what are you doing?" I also love the black balloons. PFFT. How about taking a look at huge industrial factories that let off emissions and fumes daily, by the truck load.
Sorry but me leaving my tv piolet light on is nothing compared to the Arts Center lights.