Honda Accord Euro

[hamoudy10]

Looks great man! Does it have navigation? I think it was released in that model.

[kocho]

Bit more room in the Accord Euro's than the Libs. I'm thinking of getting a Lib but probably a wagon.

The Accord Euro's are supposed to be good even though they're FWD, is that correct Bearman? You don't feel like you're driving a FWD?

I'm considering the Liberty because I think they're nice cars (albeit a bit small for my absolute liking) but I also like the AWD. Shame that no RWD cars are in the same bracket. Did you try the Mondeo? A TDCI is tempting me a bit but I don't like the look of them that much (too much chrome on the front). Still yet to give it a go though.

Nice car though.

[Bearman]

Hi Kocho. I've always had the opinion that Honda is one of the better FWD's out there. I've only driven 15km's in it so a bit early to tell but so far it feels great.

I think Honda put some pretty serious engineering into the FWD platform with the Preludes from the mid '90's. I remember reading excellent road test reviews stating this.

[Bearman]

Originally Posted by hamoudy10

Looks great man! Does it have navigation? I think it was released in that model.

No sat-nav. About the only thing it doesn't have.

[blueoval]

Congrats on your purchase Bearman. The HAE's are a nice car to drive. I took a manual one for a test drive a few years back and felt like it was actually a dam nice car to drive. Revved clean and freely and wanted to get moving. I can only imagine the features you have now with the luxury spec.

Keep us in the loop with this car, I'd be interested in hearing your comments after a few weeks/months of driving under the belt.

[MrZ]

This is not relevant discussion in a Ford forum. Take the topic to the Oz Honda fan boiz forum.

[Bucknaked]

Lookout, theres a new Sheriff in town.

[FTE217]

Good choice Bearman ! just got one for the ol man - an 08 Euro Luxury with only 30000clicks ! sadly that dark silver like Meteorite.
Importantly reliability and ease to drive will suit him perfectly after getting out of a Alfa166 that has costed a bomb the last 2yrs.
Anything the Honda will cost in servicing will be cheap after Alfa ownership LOL.......

[Geez Louise]

Congrats Craig on the new purchase.

you still have the coupe to drive around in for a bit of vroom!

[Bearman]

Originally Posted by Geez Louise

Congrats Craig on the new purchase.

you still have the coupe to drive around in for a bit of vroom!

Thanks Coll. Yep, still have the coupe. It'll always be there so we'll never be a Ford free zone!! The Honda is a sweet little rig and perfect for the daily commute to the Airport and back.

The XR6 was getting long in the tooth and had recently clocked over 200,000km. In the last 50,000km we've shovelled heaps of money into it to keep it going, including having the dash out twice to fix heating and ventilation problems. As of now it needed a new set of tyres and we had a Pedders quote big enough to cause a heart attack. The suspension needed to be re-bushed front and rear, shockers and ball joints. The next service it was going to need new brakes front and rear so there's another $4K or so to be spent in the short term. In recent months I'd noticed excessive condensation at the bottom of the windscreen which raised concerns about possible water leaks.

It was time to move it on......

[GreenR]

I'm not sure if the interior plastics are the same as the non Euro. But our family's last 2 Accords, the interior stuff peels away on the console, door trims etc. Probably one of the only disappointments.

[b2tf]

Originally Posted by Davez621

This is not relevant discussion in a Ford forum. Take the topic to the Oz Honda fan boiz forum.

Bahahahaha righto hero.

Bearman - looks great. If you want to sell the wheels let me know, Ive been chasing a set of those for ages.

[Bearman]

Just found this thread and thought I'd give a bit of an update. Just wondering if the mods can move this to the "non Ford rides" section.

In 3 years I've put 80,000km on it and in that time the only thing that has gone wrong was a central locking actuator failed. That's it!! Extremely reliable and no rattles or knocks anywhere

It's a good car to drive overall. It is a bit exxy to service but I choose to take it to a Honda dealership even now that the warranty is up. Despite this and having to run it on PULP it has been cheaper overall to run than the old XR6 with much better reliability.

I'd recommend one of these as a daily driver/runabout.

[danzvtil]

Originally Posted by Bearman

Just found this thread and thought I'd give a bit of an update. Just wondering if the mods can move this to the "non Ford rides" section.

In 3 years I've put 80,000km on it and in that time the only thing that has gone wrong was a central locking actuator failed. That's it!! Extremely reliable and no rattles or knocks anywhere

It's a good car to drive overall. It is a bit exxy to service but I choose to take it to a Honda dealership even now that the warranty is up. Despite this and having to run it on PULP it has been cheaper overall to run than the old XR6 with much better reliability.

I'd recommend one of these as a daily driver/runabout.

Sounds like you're a convert
My ex has the wide body 08 accord with leather 4 cyl motor. I used to get 900ks out of a tank on the open road without trying, my screen name is a hang over from the ozhonda forum danzvtil

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Bearman

Just found this thread and thought I'd give a bit of an update. Just wondering if the mods can move this to the "non Ford rides" section.

In 3 years I've put 80,000km on it and in that time the only thing that has gone wrong was a central locking actuator failed. That's it!! Extremely reliable and no rattles or knocks anywhere

It's a good car to drive overall. It is a bit exxy to service but I choose to take it to a Honda dealership even now that the warranty is up. Despite this and having to run it on PULP it has been cheaper overall to run than the old XR6 with much better reliability.

I'd recommend one of these as a daily driver/runabout.

Reason servicing is a bit pricey is that every 40,000km is lifter adjustment, and at 80,000km fuel filters.

I think it was about the $700 mark for the valve clearance service and around $800-$1000 for the fuel filter one at 80,000km interval, is that about right?

[Bearman]

Originally Posted by danzvtil

Sounds like you're a convert
My ex has the wide body 08 accord with leather 4 cyl motor. I used to get 900ks out of a tank on the open road without trying, my screen name is a hang over from the ozhonda forum danzvtil

I suppose I am kind of. I bought it on reputation and the fact I think its a good looking car. It hasn't disappointed and (so far) has been a really good car.

As for the future the next daily will most likely be an SUV-ish thingy but thats still some time away. Having said that I did sit in a new Accord Euro and I really liked it. The thing is though is that it has the same motor and transmission as the one I have now. Still, it would be on my list if I go with a Sedan to replace my car rather than an SUV.

Originally Posted by Big Damo

Reason servicing is a bit pricey is that every 40,000km is lifter adjustment, and at 80,000km fuel filters.

I think it was about the $700 mark for the valve clearance service and around $800-$1000 for the fuel filter one at 80,000km interval, is that about right?

Thats about right. My next service is 160,000km which is a "hamburger with the lot" service, quoted at $750 by the dealer I go to. They have been great so far and I trust them. They don't do any extras without my say so and talk these situations through rather than railroad me into getting them done.

The valve clearance thing is bizzare. A real old school procedure in this day and age?? Anyway, no biggie. Does not detract!!

[snowcone]

The 05 Euros do have some auto trans issues but these can be alleviated with the info on the Ozhonda forum.
Simply by changing the trans filter (the one that the dealers say doesn't exist but you can buy of USA eBay and change yourself) and then changing the trans oil to a better type (has to be changed at least 2 to 3 times to get rid of the old oil due to the high residual that remains in the transmission and converter with these models) and the shudder problems go a way.

[Bearman]

The book says the transmission is to be serviced at 120,000km. Just before booking in for the 110,000km service I noticed the fluid was starting to turn so I asked for a full trans service which they did.

Not too long afterwards I learned there were issues mostly caused by a filter blocking up. It seems the mandated transmission service interval is too long and some people have experienced failures.

My son takes his CR-V to an independent Honda workshop and one day noticed racks full of reco transmissions. The bloke was telling my son he's lucky his CR-V is a manual otherwise if it was an auto it would crap out.

Upon learning this I started watching mine very closely and started stressing about symptoms and probably started to imagine a few. I rand this dude to get a quote and the price was nowhere near as high as I'd feared. I told him it behaves pretty well, has good fluid colour but does have a couple of quirks which I described (these are typical of the 5 speed trans it turns out). The bloke then tried to convince me the trans was knackered and I should get a new one.

I wasnt convinced failure was iminent so I took my car to the Honda Dealer I use and told them I was very concerned the trans is starting to malfunction and about to fail. This was at 137,000km. They kept the car for the day, checked everything and drove it over a variety of roads and situations. They reported no problems but recommended I get the trans fluid flushed and changed again at the next service (140,000km).

After that was done the trans still behaves fine (car now 158,000km) and the fluid colour is still good.

Just goes to show, it pays to keep an eye on your car and check under the bonnet regularly!!

[pbk1776]

If you just want a run around car - you might want the CL9 luxury model - they are bang for the buck if you ask me. I used to have one before really liked it - but my wife and I wanted a bigger space so sold that and got her the xtrail. but if you ask me ill sell the xtrail for another accord euro

the k24 engines are great to run - strong and easy to maintain

[johnydep]

Originally Posted by Bearman

The book says the transmission is to be serviced at 120,000km. Just before booking in for the 110,000km service I noticed the fluid was starting to turn so I asked for a full trans service which they did.

Not too long afterwards I learned there were issues mostly caused by a filter blocking up. It seems the mandated transmission service interval is too long and some people have experienced failures.

............

Just goes to show, it pays to keep an eye on your car and check under the bonnet regularly!!

My wife has the MY10 model Euro, great car. I believe in changing fluids early on all my cars, changed the trans oil at 55,000km. Mainly due to these, and other FWD, vehicles not having a changeable filter.

My only complaint - the electric power steering. It feels dead, nothing like the electric steering on the VF. However, the most important thing - my wife loves it

[ms700]

The Lux's have leather seats, HID's, and factory sunroof which reduces headroom slightly - I had to get a STD as my head brushed the hoodlining - very annoying!

Any Honda built in Japan (Euro's are) are very reliable. Anything biult in Japan you cant go wrong really. I used to have a Euro, 6 speed manual, and didnt have a ounce of trouble with it. Best car ive ever owned. I sold it and within 2 weeks the new owner was involved in a accident, now its written off..... :(

Get them wheel aligned every 20K if you lower it, the rear tyres chew out if you dont. Tappet reset every 40K is not a hard job, the techs enjoyed doing them. Mazda diesels require their tappets to be reset every 20K....

Try and put 98 in the tank, it keeps the fuel lines and injectors nice and clean. When i did my fuel filter @ 80K, i could see the evidence and benefit in this.

Whatever you do, dont buy a Odyssey - their auto trans are terrible. I used to work at a honda dealership, the amount of toasted trans we used to see was incredible. Mainly due to not getting them serviced properly......

120K involves a spark plug change. Every 40K is tappet reset, every 80K is fuel filter. Cant remember when air filter gets changed, maybe 20K. Pollen filter change is thrown in there too somewhere.

[wallive]

Originally Posted by qdda5

Forgot to add....
Get the auto, much better option.

As a former owner of the CL9 and s current owner of the CU2..... NEVER NEVER get the auto. It's sluggish, it hunts and the manual is an exceptional example of how good old tech can be.

[ms700]

Yep ive gotta agree, there arent many 6 speed manual gearboxes that feel or shift as good as the Euro's

[johnydep]

Originally Posted by wallive

As a former owner of the CL9 and s current owner of the CU2..... NEVER NEVER get the auto. It's sluggish, it hunts and the manual is an exceptional example of how good old tech can be.

The auto on my wife's Euro luxury feels fine to me, especially since I use the shift paddles on the column

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Bearman

I suppose I am kind of. I bought it on reputation and the fact I think its a good looking car. It hasn't disappointed and (so far) has been a really good car.

As for the future the next daily will most likely be an SUV-ish thingy but thats still some time away. Having said that I did sit in a new Accord Euro and I really liked it. The thing is though is that it has the same motor and transmission as the one I have now. Still, it would be on my list if I go with a Sedan to replace my car rather than an SUV.


Thats about right. My next service is 160,000km which is a "hamburger with the lot" service, quoted at $750 by the dealer I go to. They have been great so far and I trust them. They don't do any extras without my say so and talk these situations through rather than railroad me into getting them done.

The valve clearance thing is bizzare. A real old school procedure in this day and age?? Anyway, no biggie. Does not detract!!

The theory we came up with on the shop floor was that they use old school lifters still because of VTEC and the way it works, basically it uses oil pressure to move a rocker down on top of the cam's high lift lobe to change lift/duration/timing etc at high revs but lets you have good idle/low end revs friendly below the VTEC cut in on a different mild cam profile.

If you've ever driven a Honda S2000 the engine sounds different once you go from around 6000RPM up to its 9000 RPM redline, you could feel the difference too.

We were changing out a lot of autos under warranty when I was there, Honda 5sp auto is a piece of crap.

The manuals are mint to drive, the newer Accord Euros are a mint car, nicely put together, they're still built in Japan unlike their other cars coming from Thailand, they have a real nice interior:



Accord V6 Luxury is also nice but we all used to hide when one came in for a valve clearance service, good luck doing the bank of cylinders facing the firewall, you'd be hanging onto a job a bit longer or looking busy but someone had to do it lol.

[galaxy xr8]

My old man had a Euro sport the other week that was passed onto his mate, his mate wasn’t sure if he wanted it or not as he’s not car savvy and asked my old man what he thought, dad had it for a week and loved it, it was manual and almost had him convinced that Euro/Honda car’s are alright.

[snowcone]

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...o+transmission

This is the link (all 22 pages of it) that will tell you where the filter is, what filter to buy, what oil to use, and how to change it properly.

If you have a CL9 this is a must or you will be paying for a new tranny.
I was sceptical that just an oil and filter change would fix the issues i was having, but IT DID and it is still good now.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by snowcone

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...o+transmission

This is the link (all 22 pages of it) that will tell you where the filter is, what filter to buy, what oil to use, and how to change it properly.

If you have a CL9 this is a must or you will be paying for a new tranny.
I was sceptical that just an oil and filter change would fix the issues i was having, but IT DID and it is still good now.

Makes you wonder about how strong it is if a standard Accord Euro can fry one with its tiny 240nm of torque, let alone the same thing fitted behind the V6s as well.

Must be made out of cheese

[johnydep]

Originally Posted by snowcone

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...o+transmission

This is the link (all 22 pages of it) that will tell you where the filter is, what filter to buy, what oil to use, and how to change it properly.

If you have a CL9 this is a must or you will be paying for a new tranny.
I was sceptical that just an oil and filter change would fix the issues i was having, but IT DID and it is still good now.

that's the secondary filter. The primary filter is inside the box, not replaceable unless removing the trans and splitting the case.

[Ben73]

Anyone know much about the plain old Accords?
The new 9th gen ones looks pretty good. They seam to be a bit cheaper than the Euros, but have more kit.
Missus wants a new car next year and I will probably put an Accord on the shortlist.