Early July VFACTS article

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by stevz

So you completely write off a vehicle which you have never even driven and probably never even sat in as being rubbish, based solely on a journalist's opinion? Funny how you take journo's articles as the be all and end all when the verdict is in your favour, but when they write something you disagree with they are the scum of the earth. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Hopefully its better then the previous model. Which was really ordinary. But highest towing capacity would ***** a few ears up.
Mind you the rest of these types of utes aren't really nice to drive.

[shewi6]

One thing to remember with the Ranger is that they are already selling all they can get right now. So it probably doesnt make sense to use up the ad budget on ranger until they need to.

[GK]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Ford appear to be deliberatly with holding stock of locally made vehicles, might be one of Grazianos tricks to bring on the demise.

Try buying anything with an LPi engine in it.

Yeah, I'm thinking this too. I've not wanted to admit it, but I really think this is what's been going on.

Talk about the mother of all tanking jobs!

GK

[jpd80]

Commodore...2360

[Auslandau]

Originally Posted by stevz

So you completely write off a vehicle which you have never even driven and probably never even sat in as being rubbish, based solely on a journalist's opinion? Funny how you take journo's articles as the be all and end all when the verdict is in your favour, but when they write something you disagree with they are the scum of the earth. Hypocrisy at its finest.

....... and so? Calling the pot back? There are crap loads of people on these pages who bag out so many brands, including what ever Ford produces without even test driving them ..... so Hypocrisy at its finest for sure but coming from so many sides including yourself and others especially a few posts above.

I am sure the results will be up on the site soon and seeing this is a discussion on figures that are not even released yet we can take a break so those above can take a breath and prepare themselves so they can have absolute great delight in the low figures that may or may not be prevalent.

[russellw]

The first set of graphical stats for July is now uploaded into the Technical Portal.

Cheers
Russ

[BP'93]

I've noticed Falcon lacking at a dealership too in the Mid North Coast. No Falcon's what so ever for a month or so, but really with LPi and Ecoboost failing, I honestly can't see Falcon surviving until 2016 even with a facelift. There's no advertising ANYWHERE!!!! and Ford isn't doing anything about it!!!

[P6LTD351]

Originally Posted by BP'93

I've noticed Falcon lacking at a dealership too in the Mid North Coast. No Falcon's what so ever for a month or so, but really with LPi and Ecoboost failing, I honestly can't see Falcon surviving until 2016 even with a facelift. There's no advertising ANYWHERE!!!! and Ford isn't doing anything about it!!!

Yep. Full page ad from Ford in yesterday's Adelaide Advertiser has all models featured EXCEPT Falcon. Says it all right there.

[Nic85]

Can we get some numbers please?

[The Snout]

Originally Posted by Archilino

Jefferson Ford in Mentone went one step further and gave half their floorspace to Hyundai, sign of the times sadly.

Fair enough. Ford manufacturing jobs aren't the only ones trying to make a living.

I'm sure Hyundai are more than willing to supply product if Ford can't get their act together because of 'supply issues', or the Olympics, or Cadel Evans not winning the Tour de France or <insert here Ford's next excuse>.

[The Snout]

Originally Posted by Falcman0o7

But will the falcon out sell skoda?

Lets be more realistic and start with Great Wall. And I doubt this will be a joke at the current rate by the end of the year.

[russellw]

Originally Posted by Nic85

Can we get some numbers please?

The link above has more detail but here are some numbers:

Ford Escape 66
Ford Falcon 941
Ford Falcon Ute 397
Ford Fiesta 944
Ford Focus 1,092
Ford Kuga 110
Ford Mondeo 470
Ford Ranger 4X2 438
Ford Ranger 4X4 1,250
Ford Territory 1,084
Ford Transit 80
Ford Transit Bus 18
Ford Transit Heavy 13

Total 6,903


Holden Barina 973
Holden Barina Spark 89
Holden Caprice 128
Holden Captiva 5 662
Holden Captiva 7 896
Holden Colorado 4X2 115
Holden Colorado 4X4 1,159
Holden Combo 18
Holden Commodore 2,399
Holden Cruze 1,875
Holden Utility 4X2 622

Total 8,936

Mazda BT-50 4X2 361
Mazda BT-50 4X4 650
Mazda CX-5 1,483
Mazda CX-7 51
Mazda CX-9 337
Mazda MX5 13
Mazda2 1,272
Mazda3 3,355
Mazda6 429

Total 7,951

.. and the next manufacturer we need to be watchful for is actually Nissan

Nissan 370Z 43
Nissan Dualis 1,183
Nissan GT-R 9
Nissan Leaf 11
Nissan Maxima 146
Nissan Micra 545
Nissan Murano 190
Nissan Navara 4X2 185
Nissan Navara 4X4 1,979
Nissan Pathfinder 296
Nissan Patrol PU/CC 64
Nissan Patrol Wagon 266
Nissan Tiida 164
Nissan X-Trail 1,074

Total 6,115

Cheers
Russ

[Bossxr8]

Didn't someone say the Colorado had over 3000 sales?

[Smoke Pursuit]

Ford really need to adjust Kuga pricing... They are missing a large amount of market share!!!

[Brazen]

What is truly staggering.... 5 of the top 10 sellers are Toyotas!

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by Brazen

What is truly staggering.... 5 of the top 10 sellers are Toyotas!

Yes and its not surprise... fleets love them... They are guaranteed a residual value at the end on most, minus Camry and Aurion... The QLD police department just bought another few hundred Aurions... The poor old Falcon has been forgotten, I have not seen an FG2 Falcon XT police car in QLD :( They only Fords they buy are XR6 Turbos.

[EgoFG]

Originally Posted by DASH GT

Yes and its not surprise... fleets love them... They are guaranteed a residual value at the end on most, minus Camry and Aurion... The QLD police department just bought another few hundred Aurions... The poor old Falcon has been forgotten, I have not seen an FG2 Falcon XT police car in QLD :( They only Fords they buy are XR6 Turbos.

It is a shame that the second car market does not understand that the "Good resale" of the toyotas only lasts for the first resale ! After that almost all cars are equal.

[turbodewd]

Nice to see the Falcon outsell the Mazda6 and Maxima combined. Im pretty sure it will take out the Aurion in that total as well.

So people dont like buying large cars?! Garbage, there is a market for them...but whether its profitable is another thing.

Damn high AUD!

[csv8]

Originally Posted by DASH GT

Ford really need to adjust Kuga pricing... They are missing a large amount of market share!!!

Its $10k over priced...same as all the Ford Euro cars are over priced...Mondeo Titanium should be around $37k drive away then haggle price down..Focus Titanium rrp is waaaay over price..$38k is too expensive before the haggling starts..my opinion

[kevino]

Walked into a QLD country dealership tday to sit in Fiesta/Focus.
Cars on lot
Falcon ECOLPI $36500
Falcon G6 Limted ed $34500
4/5 Fiestas, 3 Focuses
1 Focus was a 2011 (unsold-new) Titanium diesel at $34000
All prices drive away.

The Falcons looked beautiful! Leather seats, likeable styling, sales rep says there is little awareness of these 2 models in the marketplace
---what everybody has been saying-no advertising.
What is wrong with Ford these are 2 great cars (Ecoboost/ECOLPI) .......advertise!!!!!

[shewi6]

Well one of those 397 utes was mine. Bought a 2012 MKII XR6 manual.