Buying a ranger new - Page 2

Warrenk · 26-09-2013, 03:00 PM

I hope no one thinks I am bringing up to these issues to scare people away from buying a ranger. If I was going buy a ute the ranger would still be on top of the list. I put this information here so people could be aware of possible problems.

All new cars have there problems and trouble is dealers like to squash any negative information. I am currently waiting for delivery of a new Jeep GC and the software problems they have with the Uconnet 8.4 (radio/aircon/navigation etc) are unbelievable, but I know of these issues due the jeep forums. With this information I can ensure I get the best outcome when I take delivery.

Warren

Itsme · 26-09-2013, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Warrenk

I hope no one thinks I am bringing up to these issues to scare people away from buying a ranger. If I was going buy a ute the ranger would still be on top of the list. I put this information here so people could be aware of possible problems.

All new cars have there problems and trouble is dealers like to squash any negative information. I am currently waiting for delivery of a new Jeep GC and the software problems they have with the Uconnet 8.4 (radio/aircon/navigation etc) are unbelievable, but I know of these issues due the jeep forums. With this information I can ensure I get the best outcome when I take delivery.

Warren

Nah no problems as every one is entitled to their opinions yeah I recommend a Ranger any day especially after owning my FG XR6 Ute, well that's another story!

Cheers.

simon varley · 27-09-2013, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Warrenk

I believe the words that were used "the major problem is the oil pump"
These boxes are not made by ZF. Ford have a licence to build them and they are built in china. The next model Falcon will have the same gearboxes as these, except for the v8's and the 6 cyl turbo's will still use the ZF.

Warren

the 6R80 auto boxes are made in the US by TDE at Livonia. It's the MT82s that come from China

Anchor · 27-09-2013, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by b2tf

You're in for a very long wait if you want a Wildtrak, they don't last long when they come up.

Orange Auto in stock.

vanman_75 · 27-09-2013, 04:50 PM

Awesome car , just bought extra cab xlt. Has cooler , power sockets in tray , auto mirror,wipers etc only down sides is crazy big turned circle ...worst manual shifter in automotive history, and needs aftermarket suspension the stock one is a bit skatey on rough roads ...but with those problems is is a brilliant performer , tows like a train and very friendly cab /seating/ duel climate/Bluetooth /cruise on wheel ..
Hint measure your garage it's a big sucker ..

strik9 · 27-09-2013, 05:10 PM

i have one. love it, after 6 hiluxs. only issue is turbo lag. sux plums.
but other than that thumbs up oh yeah and the second service is 600 bucks that sux plums too.

**PepeLePew** · 27-09-2013, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by vanman_75

Awesome car , just bought extra cab xlt. Has cooler , power sockets in tray , auto mirror,wipers etc only down sides is crazy big turned circle ...worst manual shifter in automotive history, and needs aftermarket suspension the stock one is a bit skatey on rough roads ...but with those problems is is a brilliant performer , tows like a train and very friendly cab /seating/ duel climate/Bluetooth /cruise on wheel ..
Hint measure your garage it's a big sucker ..

As others have also said patience with the manual.....it changes completely with some kms under its belt. The notchiness disappears ands its a lot more positive down the track.

vanman_75 · 28-09-2013, 02:36 AM

Yer ok done 7000 in first month , will be doing another 2000 this weekend , hope it improves ...

Anchor · 28-09-2013, 08:19 AM

I think it's just "different". Most people are used to slushing 4x4's in gear. Like a sausage in a hallway. Ranger is quite the opposite. Would you all rather 1/2m throw between gears & being able to swish the stick around in gear?

It will get 'smoother' though. But it'll always be tight.

**PepeLePew** · 28-09-2013, 09:38 AM

Coming from a performance sedan background I found the shift frustrating initially. Notchy esp in the 1st to 2nd shift and sometimes I'd get 5th expecting 3rd

Some of that is related to my habit of shifting like my life depends on it, just habit. But I can say I still shift like I'm heading down the qtr and have. I such issues these days never miss a gear always find what I'm after. One positive also is I don't have any lag to complain of. One negative is it can be difficult to drive smoothly when you're lazing along, give it 2k+ and it'd smooth as a babies bum but I'm a early shifter.

vanman_75 · 28-09-2013, 10:44 AM

[QUOTEhor;4892706]I think it's just "diferent". Most people are used to slushing 4x4's in gear. Like a sausage in a hallway. Ranger is quite the oppositeould you all rather 1/2m throw between gears & being able to swish the stick around in gear?

It will get 'smoother' though. But it'll alwaIs be tight.[/QUOTE]

After owning numerous 4 wheel drives , i feel no substance in that ...all may have long throws but the rubber like spring shifts ordinary at best .and being on a mi. ne site there ain't many manual 4x4 I haven't driven , hey it's not unbearable but it is poor .the notchy side of it is fine .i honestly don't care much but it is fairly obvious and the first thing you notice .the ones at work are worse cause they get driven like race cars .stop defending a poor shift it's crap .

Awesome car minor issue .

OwnTheRoad · 28-09-2013, 11:22 PM

Off topic a little , most long time manual sedan drivers complain about the shift on 4x4 vehicles , they are just a truck box for load carrying its not a race car . My Td5 Landy from new was terrible , some research on UK forums led me to a different gearbox lubricant, and adding some Nulon G70 Teflon additive as well made a world of difference to how it shifts . I'm not suggesting this is the answer to the poor shift in the Ranger but in time there may be some alternatives to be looked at .

Boza · 29-09-2013, 01:47 PM

Well I'm going auto as the mrs can't drive a manual

nt0351 · 29-09-2013, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by vanman_75

[QUOTEhor;4892706]I think it's just "diferent". Most people are used to slushing 4x4's in gear. Like a sausage in a hallway. Ranger is quite the oppositeould you all rather 1/2m throw between gears & being able to swish the stick around in gear?

It will get 'smoother' though. But it'll alwaIs be tight.

After owning numerous 4 wheel drives , i feel no substance in that ...all may have long throws but the rubber like spring shifts ordinary at best .and being on a mi. ne site there ain't many manual 4x4 I haven't driven , hey it's not unbearable but it is poor .the notchy side of it is fine .i honestly don't care much but it is fairly obvious and the first thing you notice .the ones at work are worse cause they get driven like race cars .stop defending a poor shift it's crap .

Awesome car minor issue .[/QUOTE]

Imo this mans comments are spot on.

first test drive i had in a ranger was a manual ,..i remember telling the sales guy that no way id buy one in a manual ,..the shift felt notchy & vague I thought i was in a mahindra for a minute

,...seriously it was woefull,lets not forget we are talking a 50k plus rig here not some 24990 special ,he pointed out that they get better after a few thousand klms ,...which Im guessing also means that it become's like a ***** in a shirt sleeve at a later stage.

manual in a 4x4 around town is a pain at the best of times ,in one of these it would be downright torture,...its not a v8 performance vehicle ,.nor is the auto option some 4sp slushbox ,..someone please tell me why would you want or need a manual ?

Itsme · 29-09-2013, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Boza

Well I'm going auto as the mrs can't drive a manual

I'm sure you won't regret it the auto is a fine box & if you have driven a ZF in a FG then you will understand.

trentski · 29-09-2013, 03:52 PM

Wildtrak has rear camera, sat nav, leather trim, roof rails, tub cover and 18 inch wheels plus some minor cosmetic changes over XLT.

GCRXR6 · 29-09-2013, 11:45 PM

Picked up the XLT Friday. A little firmer in the ride than I remember with the test drive, but still quite good. The tester was a manual which I found quite good with the shift, ours is the auto .. very good on the shift. Didn't go all out with extras .. will get more as time goes on and we see what we need. Only had a hard cover, tints and rust proofing for a start.